--- Log opened Mon Sep 29 00:00:54 2014 00:13 < delinquentme> kanzure, im suprised ! eminem?? 00:13 < delinquentme> kanzure, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVdBBOpSoN4 01:12 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@124.177.2.91] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:21 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-177-2-91.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:23 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:46 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@107-219-148-42.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:00 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:00 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@185.5.8.81] has quit [Changing host] 03:00 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:41 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:45 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuff@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845] has quit [Quit: The force will be with you, always.] 03:49 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:23 -!- weles [~mariusz@wsip-174-78-132-9.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:31 -!- Jaakko918 [~Jaakko@host81-129-141-17.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:15 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:39 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuff@2001:9b0:10:2104:216:3eff:feb7:f845] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:25 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-50-229-174.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:34 -!- hypron [~hypron@p8120-ipngn100105yosemiya.okinawa.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:39 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:39 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:43 < kanzure> wtf is that 06:44 < kanzure> http://octopart.com/common-parts-library 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JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 07:20 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:22 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@95.10.247.218] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:22 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@95.10.247.218] has quit [Changing host] 07:22 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:32 < kanzure> hi 07:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-177-2-91.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:37 -!- eudoxia_ [~eudoxia@r179-25-158-143.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:37 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-158-143.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:37 -!- Jaakko919 [~Jaakko@host81-129-141-17.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:38 -!- Jaakko919 [~Jaakko@host81-129-141-17.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:12 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 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11:36 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@c-69-181-164-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:36 -!- kumavis [~kumavis@c-69-181-164-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:38 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:49 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:50 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:52 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:57 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:12 < kanzure> evidence that scribd sucks https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/07/colombian-student-faces-prison-charges-sharing-academic-article-online 12:12 < kanzure> "Initially the article was posted on Scribd and was available for download without a fee. But at some point afterwards, the website changed its terms of use to require unregistered users to pay five dollars to download documents. When Gomez realized this, he took down the article immediately. The author of the paper may have believed that Gomez was attempting to profit in light of Scribd's new fee system, but Gomez did not make anything off ... 12:12 < kanzure> ... of the work nor did he intend to do so." 12:12 < kanzure> aka fuck scribd 12:18 < archels> fuck scribd for a lot of reasons 12:20 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:31 -!- _0bitcount [~big-byte@81.61.209.223.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:57 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:58 -!- weles [~mariusz@wsip-174-78-132-9.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:58 -!- nmz787_i1 [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-bbvzvzzsxiapuhkf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:58 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:00 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:00 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.76] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:02 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:24 < kanzure> jrayhawk: re: bulletproof https://groups.google.com/d/msg/la-biohackers/b8EVV8EnzHA/FA3OdhVRn5UJ 13:34 < jrayhawk> "You do not have permission to view this content." 13:35 < kanzure> ugh 13:36 < kanzure> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VZVaHEN7 14:05 < kanzure> .title http://lau.im/articles/analyzing-silk-road-2-0-part-1/ 14:05 < yoleaux> Analyzing Trends in the Silk Road 2.0 - lau.im 14:05 < jrayhawk> sounds about right, though i question their idea of "serious life extension groups" 14:06 < kanzure> srs life extension groups 14:21 -!- Jaakko919 [~Jaakko@host81-129-141-17.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 14:55 -!- Lemminkainen [uid34064@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zbuoyihwrkprfymn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:08 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:09 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:22 -!- augur [~augur@216-164-48-148.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:32 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:39 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:52 -!- Daeken [~daeken@demoseen.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:54 -!- Daeken [~daeken@demoseen.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 < Lemminkainen> paperbot http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature13769.html 16:03 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnature13769 16:07 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:17 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:22 -!- nmz787_i1 [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-bbvzvzzsxiapuhkf] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:22 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:24 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:07 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:cb85:6a00:a943:5dbb:1b46:e7fa] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-177-2-91.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:32 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:33 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:38 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:44 -!- red-dragon [~red-drago@gateway/tor-sasl/red-dragon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:50 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:03 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:20 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:26 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:32 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:02 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-177-2-91.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:03 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:10 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:31 -!- hypron [~hypron@p8120-ipngn100105yosemiya.okinawa.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:37 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Quit: Just going out for a swim...] 19:49 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:50 -!- night is now known as ocean 19:51 -!- ocean is now known as night 19:56 -!- night is now known as pacifica 19:56 -!- pacifica is now known as night 20:46 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:52 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:59 -!- Lemminkainen [uid34064@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zbuoyihwrkprfymn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:11 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:20 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:cb85:6a00:a943:5dbb:1b46:e7fa] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-177-2-91.lns1.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:13 < kanzure> ""It can be mathematically proven that given only a synchronous network it is impossible to achieve distributed consensus in a cryptographically guaranteed way. Bitcoin achieves the impossible by weakening its requirement from cryptographic guarantee to a mere economic one. That is, it introduces an opportunity cost from outside of the system (expenditure on computing time and energy) and provides rewards within the system, but only if ... 22:14 < kanzure> ... consensus on an unbroken transaction history is maintained. This dependence on economic assumptions has two serious consequences... (1) Rigorous analysis is made much more difficult. Standard cryptographic proofs assume an attacker who does everything within his (clearly-defined) abilities to break a cryptosystem. Bitcoin, by contrast, requires analysis of the attacker's incentives, mixing well-defined mathematics with unclear economics, ... 22:14 < kanzure> ... and introduces dependencies on the actual distribution of wealth and energy in the world. It is still unclear how to set this analysis on a solid foundation, and it is even unclear whether this distributed consensus mechanism even works. But Bitcoin has been operating in a somewhat decentralized fashion for over five years, and this gives us hope. (2) Standard cryptographic proofs attempt to give honest parties an exponential advantage ... 22:14 < kanzure> ... over dishonest ones. This is why we can produce digital signatures which can be honestly produced by RFID keytags while forging them would require more computing power than exists in the universe. However, with Bitcoin's distributed consensus, an honest party has only linear advantage over an attacker: it is exactly as easy to behave honestly (writing history) as it is to behave dishonestly (rewriting history). This is why Bitcoin is ... 22:14 < kanzure> ... vulnerable to a so-called 51% attack: as soon as a dishonest party is the majority, he has an advantage over the honest parties."" 22:14 < kanzure> from https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/alts.pdf 22:30 < dingo> yeah the 51% attack is frightful 22:30 < dingo> i think it may crash the currency if somebody carries it out 22:37 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:06 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:24 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-92-248-14.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:24 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-82-42-129.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:28 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 -!- Lemminkainen [uid34064@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llzmerfimcbjtmiw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:44 < Lemminkainen> paperbot http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2014/08/20/science.1252945 23:46 -!- red-dragon [~red-drago@gateway/tor-sasl/red-dragon] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47 -!- red-dragon [~red-drago@gateway/tor-sasl/red-dragon] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:48 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/14287d7b77d372d8b6a19572d9f74182.txt --- Log closed Tue Sep 30 00:00:55 2014