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https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot 06:15 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to justanotheruser. 06:21 -!- EOF [~EOF@213.207.252.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:47 -!- Athrelon is now known as Ath|afk 07:11 -!- Ath|afk is now known as Athrelon 07:15 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:15 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:16 < JayDugger> Good morning. 07:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-179-199.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:20 < kanzure> hello JayDugger 07:37 < delinquentme> kanzure, im going to interview w teselagen 07:37 < delinquentme> does we still have info? 07:39 < kanzure> nathan hillson, nina stawski, gregory linshiz, raik gruenberg 07:40 < delinquentme> kanzure, gregory is working for them now? 07:40 < kanzure> no idea 07:40 -!- Athrelon is now known as Ath|meditating 07:41 < delinquentme> i know hes associated ... as in he works @ jbei 07:41 < delinquentme> EFFFFFFFFf 07:41 < delinquentme> I still need to do this modelling for PTMs in yeast 07:41 < delinquentme> GARRRRR 07:42 < delinquentme> kanzure, do we have anyone whos really efficient w modelling and knows about yeast ... and can do glycosylation + phosphorilzation ? 07:42 < delinquentme> (modelling ) 07:53 < sheena> can anyone create a reaasonable way to test eggs for mycoplasma? 07:55 -!- EOF [~EOF@109.162.184.43] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:55 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00 -!- EOF [~EOF@109.162.184.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:00 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:23 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:25 < kanzure> sheena: i think you could maybe do a mycoplasma pcr test on egg yolk 08:25 < kanzure> http://www.atcc.org/products/all/30-1012K.aspx 08:25 < kanzure> .title 08:25 < yoleaux> Universal Mycoplasma Detection Kit ATCC ® 30-1012K™ 08:27 < kanzure> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1196/annals.1374.096/abstract 08:27 < kanzure> "We tried to detect C. burnetii in market chicken eggs and mayonnaise by nested PCR assay. The PCR target was the com 1 gene of C. burnetii. The positive rate for egg and mayonnaise samples was 4.2% and 17.6%, respectively." 08:27 < kanzure> well that's not encouraging 08:28 < kanzure> maybe there's an elisa test 08:28 < kanzure> sheena: http://www.svanova.com/content/dam/internet/ah/svanova/dk_EN/documents/PI%20MG.pdf 08:29 < sheena> c burnettii |= myco? 08:30 < kanzure> yes but i was looking for typical pcr results on yolk 08:30 < sheena> the lab does yolk mycoplasma testing 08:30 < sheena> im not sure how? 08:31 < kanzure> probably elisa? 08:31 < kanzure> see my last link (svanova) 08:33 < sheena> ok 08:38 -!- nsh [~lol@2001:41d0:8:c2da::1337] has quit [Changing host] 08:38 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:52 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:54 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:56 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:cb85:6a00:e9ad:4028:7a54:b9ed] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:02 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:10 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:11 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:22 -!- top4o [~chatzilla@93.152.162.95] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:23 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:cb85:6a00:e9ad:4028:7a54:b9ed] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:32 -!- Ath|meditating is now known as Athrelon 09:36 -!- sheena2 [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 < heath> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x--qypby6vQ 09:39 < heath> .title 09:39 < yoleaux> Smoke - YouTube 09:40 < heath> .description 09:40 < heath> :) 09:40 < heath> Billowing smoke patterns created in Ready. This is a variation on the previously-posted Flux-Curl Fluid Simulation (http://youtu.be/1SoKtKfYkF4) using a different visualization method. 09:40 < heath> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvyY2Kp0nlQ#t=19 09:40 < yoleaux> Synthesis Gameplay Explanation - Alpha 0.0.4.4 - YouTube 09:41 < heath> posted a link earlier, but this is a nice explanation of how it works 09:41 < heath> reddit discussion aroudn it https://pay.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/2iscvt/just_added_oculus_support_to_synthesis_an/ 09:44 < heath> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6z6-eq0RT8 09:44 < yoleaux> Rotimatic - A robot that makes fresh rotis and wraps - YouTube 09:46 < heath> https://github.com/mattloper/opendr/wiki "The OpenDR, or Open Differentiable Renderer, can be used for rendering and optimisation to image evidence" 09:47 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vvdiapxgcrunxbmd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:54 -!- sheena2 [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:55 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:cb85:6a00:f1c3:ed62:1fec:fb83] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:07 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:08 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:10 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:cb85:6a00:f1c3:ed62:1fec:fb83] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:15 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:20 -!- sandeep [~sandeep@117.254.218.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:24 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:34 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iqllicbutvenkrxp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:34 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:41 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:02 < kanzure> "rhodium bubble of 2008 (increase from $500/oz to $9000/oz in July 2008, then down to $1000/oz in January 2009)[29]" 11:22 < heath> http://blog.thegrandlocus.com/2014/10/a-flurry-of-copycats-on-pubmed 11:25 < kanzure> "$10,000 to paste up a plagiarized, fake meta-analysis from a template and get it published in a bottom-tier journal, while operating in a low-cost country like China? Someone's making a killing on this." 11:48 < kanzure> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Axis_Order_Confusion 11:48 < kanzure> "A lot of trouble has been caused by a deep misunderstanding between software developers and GIS users with respect to the order of the X and Y values in a coordinate tuple. Before you start to rant away that they (the respective others) are completely mad at not sticking to either convention A (x,y) or convention B (y,x) please consider this to be a fact. Then read on and find out how we deal with the problem." 11:51 < kanzure> "Be careful when talking about or calculating with or passing on coordinate tuples as they can be ordered either (x,y) or (y,x) or (x,y) but meant as (y,x)! Use a notation that makes it obvious what you are talking about by adding direction as N, E, S, W" 11:55 < kanzure> irssi 0.8.17 http://irssi.org/news/ChangeLog 12:12 < justanotheruser> kanzure: why are you in every channel I join? 12:12 < yoleaux> 13:15Z justanotheruser: you could also just look? https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot 12:13 < kanzure> justanotheruser: because i have a system of stalking and surveillance 12:14 < kanzure> you're only in like five channels 12:14 < kanzure> start here http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin-irc-channels 12:14 < kanzure> then there's all the non-cryptocurrency stuff 12:16 -!- justanot1eruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:16 < justanot1eruser> kanzure: do you actually do anything with the logs? 12:16 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 12:18 < kanzure> justanot1eruser: well, i read them. and grep them regularly. 12:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:22 < drethelin> kanzure how many channels do you log? 12:22 < drethelin> also what's your favorite thing you've gotten out of spying that you wouldn't otherwise have read? 12:23 < kanzure> siai's private key 12:24 < kanzure> erm i mean singinst's private key 12:24 < kanzure> whatever 12:28 < drethelin> ooh 12:29 < drethelin> now you can pretend to host the singularity summit? 12:29 < heath> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiYmk1sBqCo 12:29 < yoleaux> Chinese Military Shovel WJQ-308 - YouTube 12:32 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2606:6000:cb85:6a00:c465:98f2:9ee0:987c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:33 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:37 < chris_99> heh, that's pretty cool 12:39 < chris_99> i'd never of thought of climbing with a shovel 12:42 < drethelin> locking it in other positions is a pretty cool next step for sharpened military shovels 12:42 < drethelin> also the wire cutter function is neat 12:42 < drethelin> grappling shovel! 12:43 < chris_99> i think it should also be a gun now 12:43 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:45 < drethelin> no way 12:45 < drethelin> do you really want someting you're pounding nails with to be full of gunpowder and bullets? 12:46 < chris_99> haha 12:46 < chris_99> good point 13:00 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: thundara, justanot1eruser, Merovoth, andytoshi 13:01 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:01 -!- Netsplit over, joins: thundara 13:01 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:04 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Changing host] 13:04 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:05 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:06 < nmz787_> .to delinquentme you rang? (it's been a few days 13:06 < yoleaux> nmz787_: I'll pass your message to delinquentme. 13:06 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:06 < nmz787_> sheena: mycoplasma test is PCR I believe 13:06 < kanzure> if you have a cell culture 13:07 < nmz787_> sheena: oh, I see kanzure said that right after you originally asked 13:08 < nmz787_> heath: screw rotis and wraps... find me a makhani making machine 13:14 < heath> http://indieb.io/is-the-postdocalypse-an-opportunity-in-disguise/ 13:15 * heath read makhani as mankini 13:17 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:17 < heath> speaking of indian/pakistani cuisine, time to skip down the road for some food 13:18 < nmz787_> drethelin: there are 'nail guns' that use compressed gas cartidges for pneumatic power 13:19 < kanzure> postdocalypse hah 13:21 < kanzure> "Ability to endure long hours and minimal pay for future earnings all for an expected future payout: Are you starting to see the parallels?" 13:22 < kanzure> in other words "really really fucking bad at making calculations about opportunity cost and sunk costs" 13:22 < drethelin> nmz sure but you don't actually smash the nail guns against things 13:22 < drethelin> and I wouldn't want to either 13:23 < drethelin> there are even nail guns that use gunpowder 13:24 < nmz787_> true, you just pull the trigger 13:24 < nmz787_> that shovel is pretty awesome 13:25 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:26 < nmz787_> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/120202/srep00234/full/srep00234.html 13:26 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fsrep00234 13:30 < nmz787_> d'oh, it's open 13:31 < nmz787_> .dic physisorbed 13:32 < nmz787_> .dict physisorbed 13:32 < nmz787_> .di physisorbed 13:33 < nmz787_> .d physisorbed 13:33 < yoleaux> Sorry, I couldn't find a definition for 'physisorbed'. 13:33 < nmz787_> yoleaux: why don't you search wiktionary? 13:33 < nmz787_> .wik physisortion 13:33 < yoleaux> "Physisorption, also called physical adsorption, is a process in which the electronic structure of the atom or molecule is barely perturbed upon adsorption." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physisorption 13:34 < nmz787_> that doesn't seem reliable. 13:35 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:36 < nmz787_> .d electron volt 13:36 < yoleaux> electronvolt (/ɪˈlɛktrɒnvəʊlt, -vɒlt/): n. A unit of energy equal to the work done on an electron in accelerating it through a potential difference of one volt — http://is.gd/IwZQz6 13:39 < nmz787_> 'a unit of energy equal to the force experienced by an electron, which can cause the electron to accelerate proportionally' 13:39 < nmz787_> I think I'd better check in #physics if that is right 14:00 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:05 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:07 -!- heath [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:09 -!- heath [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:13 -!- |b| [~|d|@ip68-107-37-158.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:14 < archels> .wa 1 electronvolt to joule 14:14 < yoleaux> convert 1 eV (electronvolt) to joules: 1.602177×10⁻¹⁹ J (joules); Additional conversions: 1000 meV (millielectronvolts); 1.51857×10⁻²² BTU_IT (IT British thermal units); Comparisons as energy: ~(0.1 to 0.5) × energy of a covalent bond (3×10⁻¹⁹ to 1×10⁻¹⁸ J); ~0.43 × energy of a photon of green light (2.2 to 2.5 eV); ~(0.5 to 0.8) × energy of an infrared light photon (2×10⁻¹⁹ to 3×10⁻¹⁹ J) 14:14 < archels> I knew that. just uh. checking the bot 14:15 -!- |a| [~|d|@ip68-107-37-158.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:15 < drethelin> heh 14:16 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:21 < heath> what is the network the openworm channel is on? 14:21 < heath> snoonet 14:21 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:32 -!- heath [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 14:32 -!- heath [~ybit@unaffiliated/ybit] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 < chris_99> oh cool, i wanted to join that, but forgot about it 14:34 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:34 < heath> there's also #openworm-office on freenode 14:34 < heath> both have the same number of idlers (1) 14:35 < drethelin> heh 14:35 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:35 < chris_99> oh really 14:35 < chris_99> alas 14:35 < kanzure> they just aren't irc people i guess 14:35 < kanzure> snars0n sounded like an ric person to me 14:36 < kanzure> guess not 14:45 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:50 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 -!- Vutral_ [~ss@176.10.107.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:58 -!- Vutral_ [~ss@176.10.107.235] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:59 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:07 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iqllicbutvenkrxp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:09 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:09 -!- Burn_ [~Burn@pool-71-191-174-26.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:12 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-71-191-174-26.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:14 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has quit [] 15:15 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:21 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:25 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:38 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:56 -!- mlilenium_ [~mlilenium@178.251.136.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:56 -!- mlilenium_ [~mlilenium@178.251.136.142] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 16:04 < nmz787_> acknowledgements of that photosynthesis solar paper: 'We thank the Intel Corporation for their unrestricted gift partially seed-funding this work.' 16:04 < nmz787_> '...' 16:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-60-231-179-199.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:17 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:22 < kanzure> touch screen text input for watches http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/analogkeyboard/ 16:22 < kanzure> why not just carry around a real keyboard? 16:24 < drethelin> because they're big? 16:25 < drethelin> same reason I carry a smart-phone instead of a laptop 16:28 < chris_99> maybe the watch could have a projector in, that projects a keyboard ;) 16:28 < kanzure> drethelin: this fits in my pocket just fine http://www.amazon.com/ZAGG-FOLZKFLEXSLV-Zagg-ZAGGkeys-FLEX/dp/B00695OFE2 16:29 < kanzure> i carry like three smartphones and usually one laptop, sometimes more, i think i have this all backwards 16:29 < drethelin> hmm 16:29 < drethelin> 90 percent of the typing I want to do on my smartphone is not anywhere I could easily put a keyboard or use one 16:33 < nmz787_> paperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja00893a004 16:33 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1021%2Fja00893a004 16:33 < drethelin> like while walking or wiating for an elevator or whatever 16:34 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:36 -!- sandeep [~sandeep@117.254.218.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:38 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:43 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:46 < heath> http://dat-data.com/ "Dat is an open source project that provides a streaming interface between every file format and data storage backend." 16:46 < heath> mentioned in http://www.nature.com/news/my-digital-toolbox-ecologist-ethan-white-on-interactive-notebooks-1.16015 16:46 < heath> not much to see there 16:51 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:53 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54 -!- eridu [~eridu@gateway/tor-sasl/eridu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:58 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:02 -!- tigger [~tigger@unaffiliated/tigger] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 17:06 -!- tigger [~tigger@unaffiliated/tigger] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:09 -!- hypron [~hypron@p8120-ipngn100105yosemiya.okinawa.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: hypron] 17:24 < kanzure> gah how did i not know about gqip in vim 17:24 < kanzure> but i knew about gqgq 17:26 < kanzure> or J for that matter. hrm. 17:26 < kanzure> (join) 17:38 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:57 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:59 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:16 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570870504000204 18:17 < kanzure> meh 18:17 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20Providing%20incentives%20in%20providerless%20networks%0A%20.pdf 18:18 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:19 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:22 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:22 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:23 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:25 < nmz787_> kanzure: what do you think about learning ASCII and just having single bit positions for 8 of your fingers? 18:25 < nmz787_> something you could use in the car without moving your hands 18:26 < kanzure> i would rather have a chording keyboard glove. 18:26 < nmz787_> would that be like base64 then? 18:27 < kanzure> no 18:27 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:27 < nmz787_> which I guess is still 6 bits 18:27 < kanzure> it would be like http://plover.stenoknight.com/ 18:27 < nmz787_> that doesn't work for the case I mentioned though 18:27 < kanzure> gloves? 18:27 < nmz787_> there are more switches than fingers 18:28 < kanzure> well, most fingers can bend, so usually chorders gloat about how they have two sensors per finger at least 18:28 < kanzure> really it's just going to require custom mapping in almost all cases 18:28 < nmz787_> you could have 4 finger switches and a sticky shift with your thumb 18:29 < nmz787_> that gets you 32 only though 18:29 < kanzure> even the plover users and stenography hardware-style-non-electronic-machine users have their own custom dictionaries 18:29 < nmz787_> maybe a bidirectional thumb switch 18:29 < kanzure> thumb is much more maneuverable 18:29 < nmz787_> yeah i watched that video 18:29 < nmz787_> but why not just learn base64 codes? 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