--- Log opened Thu Nov 06 00:00:42 2014 00:17 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:20 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:32 -!- rkos [~rkos@228.ip-176-31-189.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:33 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odcwriusterhveyt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:49 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:15 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:20 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~DumpsterD@50.242.254.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:22 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:44 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:02 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~DumpsterD@50.242.254.37] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:04 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~DumpsterD@50.242.254.37] has quit [Client Quit] 02:04 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~DumpsterD@50.242.254.37] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:14 < nmz787> justanotheruser: oh, i see, I thought you were asking something about DNA... I don't remember much, just that we found a TrueCrypt key for an open volume 02:18 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:33 < justanotheruser> nmz787: got quite a ping 02:33 < justanotheruser> :P 02:34 < justanotheruser> finding a truecrypt key and didn't have to try any correction methods means you probably got > 99.99999% 02:34 < justanotheruser> Or did you apply some correction brute force technique 02:36 < justanotheruser> also: medicine protip- if you don't want to pay for a doctor you can ask a walmart pharmacist if there is some medication for your ailment and what you can do without medicine 02:36 < justanotheruser> also, don't get your perscription at walmart. it took them three days to tell me they didn't have adderrall for me 02:37 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-odcwriusterhveyt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:40 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqiszomvmpjgkubo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:40 -!- yorick_ is now known as yorick 02:45 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-91-217-236.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:45 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-92-196-186.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:53 -!- Jaakko9110 [~Jaakko@host109-149-93-217.range109-149.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 03:23 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:28 -!- hypron [~hypron@p8120-ipngn100105yosemiya.okinawa.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:30 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:34 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:34 -!- Jaakko919 [~Jaakko@host109-149-93-217.range109-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:40 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:41 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:42 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:43 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:46 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:47 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:57 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:00 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:01 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:07 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:07 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:12 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:14 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:20 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:24 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:36 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-10-245.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:47 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:52 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:23 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:43 -!- hypron [~hypron@p8120-ipngn100105yosemiya.okinawa.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: hypron] 05:46 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:52 < kanzure> justanotheruser: most of the time they can check before you leave a prescription with them 05:55 < kanzure> "AirHopper: Bridging the Air-Gap between Isolated Networks and Mobile Phones using Radio Frequencies" http://arxiv.org/abs/1411.0237 05:56 < justanotheruser> kanzure: I know. I left it with them then they called me the next day and said I should get the generic since its cheaper then they called me the next day and said it didn't come in and it should come in tomorrow then they called me the next day and told me that they payment method I told them I would be paying with couldn't be used. 05:57 < justanotheruser> And then I went to krogers and had it within half an hour 06:01 < kanzure> story of my life 06:12 < justanotheruser> - One Direction 06:13 < justanotheruser> I'm starting to find that the dumbest people in the US don't go to college, the above-average to smart people go to college and the geniuses either go to college to get a PhD and do research or don't go at all. 06:19 < kanzure> by the way.. krogers is leaking a lot of bits re: identifying you. 06:19 < justanotheruser> Is it? 06:20 < kanzure> it's only in 31 states 06:20 < justanotheruser> lol 06:20 < kanzure> there might be krogers near a border, but that is easy enough to account for 06:21 < kanzure> (also maybe not all have pharmacies) 06:22 < justanotheruser> I'm probably dumping this account within the weex 06:22 < justanotheruser> week 06:22 < justanotheruser> not because of this, but it's had it's use, I've accumulated my stalkers to shed, etc 06:23 < kanzure> aww i'll miss you 06:24 < justanotheruser> :< 06:29 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~DumpsterD@50.242.254.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:31 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8565861 06:31 < yoleaux> Germany's top publisher bows to Google in news licensing row | Hacker News 06:31 < kanzure> "I've been following this Leistungsschutzrecht development for a long time now and I still can't believe how ridiculous it is or that the law actual passed. Now, after taking a step back, failing to force Google to pay for providing a service that is much more beneficial to Springer than it is to Google, Bild and Springer try to paint a picture that displays them as the victims in this issue, being bullied by big old Google. It gets more ... 06:31 < kanzure> ... absurd by the day. Also, this right only applies to Google - if you're DuckDuckGo or any other search engine you're still not allowed to show snippets from Springer media. So they are complaining about Google's market dominating position by strengthening it? Utterly absurd." 06:32 < kanzure> i suppose this is probably the same springer that operates springerkink 06:57 -!- yorrick [~yorrick@gateway/tor-sasl/yorrick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:14 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-10-245.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:00 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:09 -!- yorrick [~yorrick@gateway/tor-sasl/yorrick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:11 -!- yorrick [~yorrick@gateway/tor-sasl/yorrick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:13 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:17 -!- maaku_ is now known as maaku 08:20 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:21 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-izhnvqvoyyqmcvzs] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:28 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:28 < kanzure> 08:22 < zooko> Here's my pitch for why BLAKE2 is awesome: https://blake2.net/acns/slides.html 08:41 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: austerity chic brand destruction] 08:44 < heath> https://github.com/coddingtonbear/ircpdb 08:44 < heath> ircpdb - Remotely and collaboratively debug your Python application via an IRC channel 08:46 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:48 < kanzure> nice 08:48 < kanzure> paperbot needs that 08:50 < kanzure> might be fun to combine that with https://github.com/google/pyringe 08:55 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:58 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:16 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:28 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:31 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 09:37 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:41 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.88.71.253] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:47 -!- Jaakko9110 [~Jaakko@host81-152-212-26.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:48 -!- Jaakko919 [~Jaakko@host109-149-93-217.range109-149.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:59 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-izhnvqvoyyqmcvzs] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:11 -!- poohbear is now known as tigger 10:11 -!- tigger is now known as poohbear 10:17 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:26 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:34 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:50 -!- seba- [~hirohito@cpe-90-157-233-7.static.amis.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03 -!- ademoglu [~ademoglu@unaffiliated/ademoglu] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 11:17 -!- ademoglu [~ademoglu@unaffiliated/ademoglu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 < kanzure> bleep bloop 11:56 < catern> sometimes kanzure just can't control his robotic urges 12:13 < delinquentme> kanzure, https://weworkremotely.com/jobs/1059 12:15 < kanzure> hmm. 12:43 -!- yorrick is now known as PoorYorrick 12:53 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:07 -!- PoorYorrick [~yorrick@gateway/tor-sasl/yorrick] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07 -!- PoorYorrick [~yorrick@gateway/tor-sasl/yorrick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:17 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:19 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:21 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuff@5.150.254.180] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:26 < nmz787_i> the protocol here was definitely featured on SouthPark http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2014/11/mystery-solved-where-penis-comes 13:27 < nmz787_i> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eek,_a_Penis! 13:35 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.88.71.253] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 13:40 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:41 < sheena> anyone in here know thigns about consumers getting O2? 13:44 -!- helleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:51 -!- PoorYorrick [~yorrick@gateway/tor-sasl/yorrick] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:00 < dingo> i fine release from yours truely: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ghstat/0.1.1 14:26 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuff@5.150.254.180] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:26 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:27 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:28 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168 14:30 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 14:49 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:51 < kanzure> delinquentme: http://www.forbes.com/sites/venkateshrao/2011/12/05/the-rise-of-developeronomics/print/ 14:58 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58 -!- Burn_ [~Burn@pool-71-191-174-26.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:59 -!- Burn_ [~Burn@pool-71-191-174-26.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:03 < kanzure> "One of these days, we’ll recognize the enormous significance of what’s going on and replace the BC/AD distinction with BI/AI (Before Internet/After Internet), with January 1, Year 0 reset to October 29, 1969, the day the Internet was turned on" 15:03 < kanzure> 1969 you say? 15:06 < delinquentme> kanzure, dis buzzword 15:38 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50 < nmz787_i> does that mean you can have an internet-rebirth? 16:55 < heath> hm, i think i know the person who runs we work remotely 16:55 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2001:4802:7803:104:be76:4eff:fe20:1ed8] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:58 -!- smeaaagle [~smeaaagle@2001:4802:7803:104:be76:4eff:fe20:1ed8] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:06 -!- napedia [~napedia@unaffiliated/napedia] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:15 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:15 < kanzure> hrm 17:20 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:23 < kanzure> https://microcorruption.com/profile/1514 17:23 < kanzure> haha levskaya got top 100 17:26 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:37 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqiszomvmpjgkubo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:38 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:47 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:56 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuff@5.150.254.180] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:05 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:18 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:21 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@88.226.180.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:21 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@88.226.180.22] has quit [Changing host] 18:21 -!- ElixirVitae [~Shehrazad@unaffiliated/shehrazad] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:05 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:29 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:41 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:42 < dingo> for you folkers out there who have to parse xml from shell, don't forget about xmllint!! 19:42 < dingo> xmllint --xpath 'string(//testsuite/@errors)' build-output/test-results.unit.xml 20:18 < kanzure> haha 20:18 < kanzure> i can't imagine how you got yourself into another xml situation 20:18 < kanzure> didn't you learn your lesson 20:19 < kanzure> stuck writing dtds and schemas for the next 20 years 20:20 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:28 < jrayhawk_> some people, upon encountering a problem, think to themselves "I know, I'll use XML!". Now they have an infinitely extensible quantity of problems. 20:41 < kanzure> that is very upsetting 20:49 < dingo> well junit build output is parsed by bamboo 20:49 < dingo> so thats what i have py.test write for me 20:49 < dingo> and xml isn't actually so bad 20:50 < dingo> there are a lot of deficiences in json if you compare the two 20:50 < dingo> like, i can't even write a damn comment 20:50 < dingo> theres no schema or enforcement of structure 20:50 < dingo> hell, encoding can even be a problem 20:51 < dingo> xml isn't good for everything, including this stupid junit test result output 20:51 < dingo> but it is good for many things, like NLM http://www.nlm.nih.gov/databases/dtd/ 20:53 < dingo> py.test doesn't do multiple format outputs, only one 20:54 < dingo> so its not really worth writing another file just to find out "did any fail?" later down the road 20:54 < dingo> since that would require re-running the tests 20:54 < dingo> and with highly functional tests, god knows if it'd be the same result 20:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:39 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:57 < rkos> what happened to paperbot? 22:12 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:20 < fenn> i forgot to feed it and it died 22:21 < fenn> paperbot is in a better place now 22:21 < rkos> can anyone help me get an article from a sage journal? pretty please? 22:22 < fenn> link 22:23 < rkos> http://pas.sagepub.com/content/33/2/327.full.pdf 22:27 < fenn> rkos http://fennetic.net/irc/327.full.pdf 22:27 < rkos> thank you so much!!! awesome 22:30 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:30 < fenn> i don't know if i should be worried about this ruble devaluation or not 22:30 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:35 < fenn> [/r/botsrights] A hard working bot gets bashed by ungrateful human 22:41 -!- snuffeluffegus [~snuff@5.150.254.180] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44 -!- sheena [~home@50.66.72.211] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:47 < fenn> "This is different - it's Bitcoin. It's designed to make mining exactly economically neutral, in the long term, at equilibrium. So it's a race to find the scrappiest, cheapest miner farm so that one can be just one epsilon more efficient than the rest of the Bitcoin mining industry. Along the way, some people will overstep, like we see here, but I don't think we should expect to see 22:47 < fenn> /r/cableporn-worthy setups with 20°C ambient, raised floors, halon systems and the like, as a norm." 22:49 < fenn> this is what happens when you mix 2 megawatts of electricity and a wooden barn in thailand http://imgur.com/Y7Y97BO.jpg http://imgur.com/fYlIblu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/N7K36Kw.jpg 22:50 -!- sheena [~home@S010690b134fc2e54.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:57 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:02 -!- lichen [~lichen@c-50-139-11-6.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:13 < justanotheruser> fenn: you seem to be posting random stings of text you found on the internet with the next being unrelated to the previous. 23:16 < fenn> there's a geopolitical shitstorm brewing around the syria-ukraine region, russia's economy suddenly tanking could lead to people with big scary weapons doing stupid things with bad consequences 23:16 < fenn> even though that was maybe the plan, it's still worrying 23:16 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iviolfhulcpgozap] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:17 < fenn> ruble devaluation probably leads to bitcoin valuation and more speculation hilarity 23:17 < fenn> said hilarity incentivizes people to pump a couple megawatts into their mom's basement with more hilarious results 23:18 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:18 < justanotheruser> ok 23:18 < fenn> and i thought the botsrights thing was funny, especially with how people tend to just show up and expect paperbot to be there 23:19 < justanotheruser> so indirectly syria-ukrain shitstorm -> bitcoin price increase 23:19 < justanotheruser> oh, paperbots gone? 23:21 < fenn> i am reading gamergate/SJW crap instead of fixing it :\ 23:21 < fenn> .title http://www.reddit.com/r/botsrights 23:21 < yoleaux> Because bots are people, too! 23:21 < dingo> 01:20 < fenn> i forgot to feed it and it died 23:21 < dingo> my favorite advice i got from a trailer park, 23:22 < dingo> "You know what you do with a cat that doesn't like you? starve it. 23:22 < dingo> then, feed it. It'll love you from then on" 23:22 < dingo> same guy who told me you never have to stop at a 4-way stop: everybody else does 23:23 < fenn> sounds like a real keeper 23:23 < dingo> i gave him my jetta at 280,000mi and he crashed it almost immediatly 23:23 < dingo> the exaust manifold leaked into the cabin 23:24 < dingo> it gave me headaches and made me dumb 23:24 < fenn> did he crash because of the carbon monoxide or because he was an inconsiderate ass? 23:24 < dingo> he was an ass 23:24 < dingo> i learned a lesson anyway 23:25 < dingo> never give people anything, they won't treat it like they earned it 23:25 < fenn> stuff is overvalued anyway 23:26 < fenn> .g loss aversion 23:26 < yoleaux> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loss_aversion 23:29 < fenn> i've been watching "american pickers" and being flabbergasted at the quoted values of what is literally useless junk 23:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.147.27] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:38 < fenn> after amazon came online, book scavengers would go through piles of books, scanning the barcodes with PDA barcode readers that automatically tell you the market price for each book. it would be interesting to develop a similar system using object recognition and visual pattern matching 23:39 < fenn> of course antiques are probably closer to "fungible art" than a commodity with a price 23:59 < dingo> i found an issue of analog (science fiction / science fact) worth $120 --- Log closed Fri Nov 07 00:00:03 2014