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00:48 < fenn> what. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pika
00:53 < fenn> http://cmiae.org/wp-content/uploads/pika.wav
01:02 < fenn> omg too much http://www.go2moon.com/Pika.html
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03:24 < maaku> fenn: cuteness overload
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08:34 < kanzure> .title
08:34 < yoleaux> Alaska Pika
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08:47 < kragen> Boscop: probably channels I'm not on
08:48 < kragen> .wik trehalose
08:48 < yoleaux> "Trehalose, also known as mycose or tremalose, is a natural alpha-linked disaccharide formed by an α,α-1,1-glucoside bond between two α-glucose units." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trehalose
08:56 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJz7jkhUr60
08:56 < yoleaux> Mama Cass - Octopus Briareus Interaction - YouTube
08:57 < kanzure> "because octopuses are difficult to breed in captivity, most pets octopuses are caught in the wild
08:57 < kanzure> hmm
08:59 < kanzure> "The home sized animals only live about one year and the dwarfs often less"
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09:34 < nmz787_i> http://www.librecalc.com/en/
09:34 < nmz787_i> .title
09:34 < yoleaux> LibreCalc | A free (as in speech) calculator, made with free software, using free software, and released as open hardware
09:34 < nmz787_i> whoo they used KiCad
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09:48 < fenn> wow very cool
09:48 < fenn> "It’s possible to make BGA boards with Kicad and a frying pan!
09:49 < fenn> are they going to incorporate Sage?
09:50 < nmz787_i> they didn't mention it
09:50 < nmz787_i> mentioned one or two other CAS systems
09:51 < nmz787_i> (computer algebra)
09:51 < nmz787_i> idk if they'd do calculus too
09:51 < nmz787_i> FWIW sage is something like a gig and a half of bytes
09:51 < fenn> i've never actually gotten maxima to work
09:51 < nmz787_i> at least on ubunty
09:51 < nmz787_i> ubuntu
09:56 < kanzure> octopus egg laying is pretty useful for potential directed evolution experiments
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09:57 < nmz787_i1> fenn: it's likely javascript, but sage has an online presence https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects
09:57  * nmz787_i1 is ducking and covering under my standing desk, re: seismic drill
09:57 < fenn> yeah it turns out mathematicians are lazy and won't bother to install your software if they have to think about it
09:58 < fenn> doriru!!
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10:00 < nmz787_i>  used sage cloud for the calc class I was just in
10:00 < nmz787_i> here is the calc project we had to do https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/9f1550d0-ed4d-4511-9160-2bac6e3af2dd/files/ttest.sagews
10:00 < nmz787_i> it should be publically viewable
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10:03 < nmz787_i> supposedly this is a decent one or two time read for reference and jargon http://www.uml.org.cn/c++/pdf/DesignPatterns.pdf
10:04 < fenn> fwiw this is what "cloud" stuff looks like without css or js: http://fennetic.net/irc/welcome_to_web_1.9_stable.png
10:05 < kanzure> you can't complain until you have completely implemented a (public) graceful fallback implementation
10:05 < fenn> oh i'll get right on that
10:05  * fenn fixes the internet
10:05 < kanzure> huh? this is just sagemath i thought
10:05 < kanzure> that's not the entire internet
10:07 < fenn> the majority of sites made after 2010 were done with zero consideration for accessibility
10:07 < fenn> and apparently the average web page half life is 100 days
10:08 < nmz787_i> fenn: can you scroll to the bottom and see the images?
10:08 < nmz787_i> they should be SVG
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10:08 < fenn> oh i thought it rendered stuff in realtime with js
10:08 < nmz787_i> (I guess your pic shows you at the bottom)
10:09 < nmz787_i> I think they are cached until the user hits 'run'
10:09 < fenn> there aren't any <img> elements in the document
10:09 < nmz787_i> i.e. https://cloud.sagemath.com/blobs//projects/9f1550d0-ed4d-4511-9160-2bac6e3af2dd/.sage/temp/compute4dc2/21988/tmp_1rWdz8.svg?uuid=abc01599-391b-4d75-b9c8-76c5b1458ad1
10:09 < nmz787_i> aka https://cloud.sagemath.com/blobs//projects/9f1550d0-ed4d-4511-9160-2bac6e3af2dd/.sage/temp/compute4dc2/21988/tmp_1rWdz8.svg?uuid=abc01599-391b-4d75-b9c8-76c5b1458ad1
10:10 < nmz787_i> oh, same
10:10 < chris_99> i present you the greatest idea in the history of mankind - http://beardbaubles.tictail.com/product/beard-baubles
10:10 < nmz787_i> heh heh heh
10:11 < fenn> oh i remember that rectangle method from like middle school?
10:12 < fenn> you're supposed to make the midpoint intersect the curve to minimize error
10:12 < nmz787_i> yeah had to show inner, outer, left and right rectangle method, then compare with Simpsons approximation
10:12 < nmz787_i> nah that is midpoint rectangles, so another method, which we didn't show
10:13 < nmz787_i> the point was to get an upper and lower bound for the estimate
10:15 < fenn> http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/reinforcements/Powerdasher_Drill_vehicle.jpg http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/reinforcements/Powerdasher_Drill_robot.jpg
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11:33 < nmz787_i> jrayhawk: yum yum? http://www.rosinwarehouse.com/Rosin_Baked_Potato.html
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12:23 < kanzure> peer review stuff (pubpeer) http://www.wired.com/2014/12/pubpeer-fights-for-anonymity/
12:24 < kanzure> "Unfortunately, the anonymity that makes PubPeer work is under threat. A prominent cancer scientist, unhappy with the attention his research papers have received on PubPeer, is suing some of our anonymous commenters for defamation. And he is trying to use a subpoena to force PubPeer to turn over whatever identifying information we have for them."
12:24 < kanzure> well then your users aren't actually anonymous, duh
12:24 < namespace> :P
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13:14 < nmz787_i> fenn and kanzure -- btw, aliexpress let me know that my tablet orders were "frozen due to suspicious seller activity"
13:14 < nmz787_i> "You order is currently frozen, due to the sellers suspicious trading activities."
13:14 < nmz787_i> " We have suspended this seller’s account because we have detected unsafe trading activities. We have therefore requested the seller to provide sufficient evidence, such as shipping documents and certificates which they must provide within 3 business days (not calendar days)."
13:14 < nmz787_i> "If the seller fails to provide any evidence within 3 business days, we will issue you with a full refund. In the event the seller does provide evidence, it could take about 15 business days for the case to be resolved."
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13:15 < chris_99> i ordered something from taobao but never got it :( and i don't know how to complain since i don't speak chinese , i think i'll stick to aliexpress
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14:25 < kragen> namespace: fraudulent tablets?
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14:35 < namespace> kragen: Huh?
14:35 < namespace> Oh you wanted a different n name.
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14:36 < kragen> sorry
14:36 < kragen> nmz787: fraudulent tablets?  are these the $12 Android tablets?
14:48 < nmz787_i> yes
14:49 < nmz787_i> the new 'official' low for tablet prices I've seen now is for a 7" (1024x800 I think) quad-core intel atom tablet for $40 two weeks ago (currently at $50)
14:50 < nmz787_i> though I found a motorola photon q locally for $35 that also features 3G and a slide-out qwerty keyboard... but it is more like a 3" or something
14:51 < nmz787_i> hmm, another bunnie huang product http://www.adafruit.com/product/609
14:51 < nmz787_i> .title
14:51 < yoleaux> NeTV Starter Pack ID: 609 - $150.00 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits
14:52 < nmz787_i> huh, their webpage/site is just a mediawiki http://www.kosagi.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page
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14:57 < nmz787_i> "This isn’t some lame Intel-style bra-padding exercise. This is full-on process technology bad-assery at its finest. This is Neo decoding the Matrix. This is Mal shooting first. It’s a stack of almost 40 individual, active transistors in a single spot. It’s a game changer, and it’s not vapor ware."
14:58 < nmz787_i> chris_99: some commercial printer head microfluidics (I actually can't tell what is fluidic and non-fluidic) http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=4234
14:59 < chris_99> isn't it a microchip?
15:00 < chris_99> oh it's both?
15:03 < kanzure> 15:00 < wyager> op_null: IIRC, Google did a study that showed that, at sea level, you expect something like .25 random bit flips per hour per gig of non-error-corrected RAM. So you just need to use a few GB*hours to have a reasonable expectation of a bit flip
15:03 < kragen> US$40 sounds like a pretty good price
15:04 < chris_99> kanzure, have you seen a paper from some conference based on this, where they registered domains with bitflipped bits
15:04 < kanzure> yes
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15:04 < kanzure> true heroes
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15:11 < kanzure> 15:04 < wyager> Oops, it was .025-.07, not .25. Still pretty high
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16:40 < heath> pyramid is a rather nice framework
16:40  * heath continues being sick
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17:22 < jrayhawk> memory's constantly getting lower-energy, though, so bits are constantly getting easier to flip
17:22 < jrayhawk> i don't know what the scaling properties of that would be, though
17:27 < kanzure> i was trying to find something on arxiv that would have that scaling factor,
17:27 < kanzure> instead i found "How biochemical resources determine fundamental limits in cellular sensing" http://arxiv.org/pdf/1308.1449.pdf
17:28 < kanzure> "The physics of information" http://arxiv.org/pdf/0708.2837.pdf
17:36 < kanzure> "That which is not forbidden is mandatory" hey i like these people
17:41 < kanzure> "the discovery of horizontal gene transfer in multicellular eukaryotes[38–42]" "Massive horizontal gene transfer in bdelloid rotifers"
17:41 < kanzure> "Horizontal gene transfer of an entire metabolic pathway between a eukaryotic alga and its DNA virus" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2720186/
17:42 < kanzure> "It is estimated that 20%–40% of microorganisms in surface sea waters are killed by viruses each day." (from that last link)
17:46 < jrayhawk> good lord
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17:52 < kanzure> "And remember, being optimistic doesn't make you biased, just like being pessimistic doesn't make you objective." wait what... why wouldn't you just say "just like being pessimistic doesn't make you biased"?
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20:03 < Lemminkainen> paperbot http://www.sciencemag.org/content/338/6109/903.abstract?ijkey=b495eb5ae44f1a9e7387185de67604daa4d756fb&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha
20:03 < paperbot> http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.1226338
20:05 < kanzure> anima mundi recalibration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgDMjA-agg&t=1m50s
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20:11 < kanzure> hello juul
20:21 < Ajnanin> Anyone use 9 methyl beta carboline?
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20:51 < kanzure> russia economy stuff http://www.awarablogs.com/putin-midterm-interim-results/
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23:24 < nmz787> .title http://www.businessinsider.com/groundbreaking-idea-of-lifes-origin-2014-12
23:24 < yoleaux> Groundbreaking Idea Of Life's Origin - Business Insider
23:24 < nmz787> "He also showed that RNA, the nucleic acid that many scientists believe served as the precursor to DNA-based life, is a particularly cheap building material. Once RNA arose, he argues, its “Darwinian takeover” was perhaps not surprising. The chemistry of the primordial soup, random mutations, geography, catastrophic events and countless other factors have contributed to the fine details of Earth’s diverse flora and fauna. But ...
23:24 < nmz787> ... according to England’s theory, the underlying principle driving the whole process is dissipation-driven adaptation of matter."
23:25 < nmz787> "In a September paper in the Journal of Chemical Physics, he reported the theoretical minimum amount of dissipation that can occur during the self-replication of RNA molecules and bacterial cells, and showed that it is very close to the actual amounts these systems dissipate when replicating."
23:25 < nmz787> http://www.englandlab.com/uploads/7/8/0/3/7803054/2013jcpsrep.pdf
23:31 < nmz787> "?Besides self-replication, greater structural organization is another means by which strongly driven systems ramp up their ability to dissipate energy. A plant, for example, is much better at capturing and routing solar energy through itself than an unstructured heap of carbon atoms. Thus, England argues that under certain conditions, matter will spontaneously self-organize."
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