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[uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pblbnnislbpgcqip] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:41 < kanzure> a series of recorded screencasts about game development on a particular project https://www.youtube.com/user/handmadeheroarchive 07:56 < kanzure> .title http://kryptoslogic.blogspot.com/2015/01/openssls-squaring-bug-and-opportunistic.html 07:56 < yoleaux> Kryptos Logic Research: OpenSSL's squaring bug, and opportunistic formal verification 08:08 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:10 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:10 -!- shubhamgoyal [~shubhamgo@118.189.209.93] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:42 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:a0e3:bf12:4662:3287] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:55 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:02 < kanzure> .title http://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/abstract/S1550-4131%2814%2900554-3# 09:02 < kanzure> "Our findings indicate horizontal transfer of mtDNA from host cells in the tumor microenvironment to tumor cells with compromised respiratory function to re-establish respiration and tumor-initiating efficacy. These results suggest pathophysiological processes for overcoming mtDNA damage and support the notion of high plasticity of malignant cells." 09:02 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page. 09:15 -!- skyraider [uid41097@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-luanfnuxzfcppqnn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:40 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:58 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-87-205-24.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:58 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-145-103-111.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:02 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:10 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:20 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@gateway/tor-sasl/merovoth] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:24 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:a0e3:bf12:4662:3287] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:24 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:a0e3:bf12:4662:3287] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:39 -!- ButaTine [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:a0e3:bf12:4662:3287] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:41 -!- ButaTine [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:a0e3:bf12:4662:3287] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:55 < nmz787> http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/USB-Type-C-Specification-Release-1.0.pdf 11:56 < nmz787> the cables are active, to tell the up/down-stream about performance and current-handling characteristics 11:59 < superkuh> Lets hope 3.1 chipsets don't suck as hard as most 3.0 ones. 12:10 -!- abetusk [~abe@c-71-192-163-80.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:58 < archels> oh man, whose great idea was this? 13:10 -!- ButaTine [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:2145:5167:b701:110c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:a0e3:bf12:4662:3287] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:18 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:18 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:23 < nmz787> .wik debye-scherrer powder camera 13:23 < yoleaux> "Powder diffraction is a scientific technique using X-ray, neutron, or electron diffraction on powder or microcrystalline samples for structural characterization of materials." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_diffraction 13:23 < nmz787> .wik international center diffraction data 13:23 < yoleaux> "The International Centre for Diffraction Data (ICDD) maintains a database of powder diffraction patterns, the Powder Diffraction File (PDF), including the d-spacings (related to angle of diffraction) and relative intensities of observable diffraction peaks." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Centre_for_Diffraction_Data 13:24 < nmz787> "PDF-4+ 2014 contains 354,264 entries from both the PDF-2 and our collaboration with MPDS. It combines the world's largest sources of inorganic diffraction data from crystals and powders into a single database. The result is a comprehensive collection of inorganic materials, produced in a standardized format that can be rapidly searched for unknown phase identification. Extensive data mining is facilitated with our 115 display fields ... 13:24 < nmz787> ... coupled with 63 searches." 13:24 < nmz787> "PDF-4+ 2014 - New - Academic Price - CD or DVD $5,775.00" 13:33 < kanzure> .wik weak ontology 13:33 < yoleaux> "In computer science, a weak ontology is an ontology that is not sufficiently rigorous to allow software to infer new facts without intervention by humans (the end users of the software system)." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weak_ontology 13:48 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:14 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:1422:23c:8537:f67e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:25 -!- max007 [4a81c8f0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.129.200.240] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:25 -!- max007 [4a81c8f0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.74.129.200.240] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 14:36 -!- yoleaux [~yoleaux@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:05 < delinquentme> kanzure, I need opinion. 15:05 < kanzure> i have many of those! 15:05 < delinquentme> I'm coding up this calculator, and I just hard coded a value of 18 for the molecular weight of water 15:05 < delinquentme> It FEELS dirty 15:05 < delinquentme> but its not like it changing anytime soon. 15:05 < delinquentme> what would you do? 15:06 < delinquentme> just assign it a constant ? I feel like thats smarter than a hardcoded misc value. 15:07 < kanzure> depends on how reusable this is supposed to be 15:07 < delinquentme> constant it is 15:15 -!- ButaTine [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:b00b:2145:5167:b701:110c] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:33 < nmz787> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QZkCQSHnko 15:33 < nmz787> .title 15:33 < nmz787> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QZkCQSHnko 15:33 < nmz787> oh come on 15:38 -!- yoleaux [~yoleaux@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:39 < fenn> .wa molecular weight of water 15:39 < yoleaux> water: relative molecular mass: 18.0153 15:50 < AmbulatoryCortex> is that an average? 15:56 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-146-242-78.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:00 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-145-103-111.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:18 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:19 -!- poppingtonic [~poppingto@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:26 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:34 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:34 < nmz787> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWo-ErpVZC4 16:34 < yoleaux> Making your own C programs for the ESP8266 - YouTube 16:35 < nmz787> AmbulatoryCortex: yes, of the radioisotopes 16:35 < nmz787> found on earth 16:35 < nmz787> (i think it's relative to earth composition) 16:47 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:56 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:14 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:18 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:25 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 17:27 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:57 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:06 < justanotheruser> kanzure: I need help 18:26 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:36 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:44 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:48 < justanotheruser> nvm, ear canal bleeding stopped 18:49 < yashgaroth> psyker trouble? 18:51 < justanotheruser> ? 18:51 < yashgaroth> nvm 18:54 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:58 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:30 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:31 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:32 < kanzure> next time on irc md.... 19:41 < kanzure> http://diyprojectorkits.com/store/diy-projector-kits/ 19:42 < kanzure> all of these links are broken :( 19:42 < kanzure> from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8864747 19:42 < kanzure> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-15-LCD-Screen-Display-For-Macbook-Pro-Retina-15-A1398-2012-2013-/251765871103 19:46 < kanzure> fenn: oh right, i didn't even bring up maaku as another example 19:46 < kanzure> oh well, at least maaku produces good code 19:46 < kanzure> s/good/great 19:47 < maaku> in insufficient quantities. need more time to write code! 19:48 < kanzure> abc- always be coding 19:49 < kanzure> or at work we say abc- always be compliant 19:51 * bkero ordered projector 19:51 < bkero> ZTE S-Pro 19:53 < kanzure> an abundance of cheap high-pixel-density LCDs and projectors is good for microlithography reasons 19:58 < kanzure> "Using evolutionary data to raise testable hypotheses about protein function" http://www.tau.ac.il/~talp/publications/Consurf2013.pdf 19:58 < kanzure> this is a neat trick 20:05 < kanzure> "I suspect they put Socrates to death because there is something terribly unattractive, alienating and non-human in thinking with too much clarity." or because he hung out around people that were okay with killing him 20:06 < kanzure> "Microfluidic cell sorter for use in developing red fluorescent proteins with improved photostability" http://jila.colorado.edu/jimenez/sites/default/files/pdf/Microfuidic_cell_sorter.pdf 20:39 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=aad21e5d Bryan Bishop: also channelrhodopsins would be nice >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/dna/projects/ 20:41 < kanzure> "Motility and photoorientation of microalgae have been studied over more than hundred years in many laboratories worldwide. In 1980, Ken Foster developed the first consistent theory about the functionality of algal eyes.[32] He also analyzed published action spectra and complemented blind cells with retinal and retinal analogues, which led to the conclusion that the photoreceptor for motility responses in Chlorophyceae is rhodopsin.[33]" 20:41 < kanzure> here is his paper, 20:42 < kanzure> "Light antennas in phototactic algaes" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC373196/pdf/microrev00065-0058.pdf 20:44 < kanzure> "directional light wave antennas" hehe 20:47 < kanzure> "One of our aims is to provide the reader with an intuitive sense of how phototaxis works. For this purpose certain dimensions must be kept in mind. Typical swimming speeds are 100 microns/second for unicellular algae and up to 1 mm/second for large colonial algae. Swimming is caused by the flagellar beat. As the organisms swim, their cell bodies rotate at frequencies in the range 0.2 to 2.0 Hz. The flagellar beat frequency is 10 to 100 ... 20:47 < kanzure> ... times greater than the rotation frequency." 20:50 < kanzure> "Bacteria are too small to track light. One reason for this is that they cannot create within their bodies a sufficient gradient of light intensity to obtain accurate clues about light direction from changes in light intensity caused by their own motion. Furthermore, the swimming direction of bacteria is rapidly randomized by rotational Brownian motion. Motile bacteria have overcome this problem to some extent by evolving rod and spiral ... 20:50 < kanzure> ... shapes." 21:35 < nmz787> bkero: do you mean the sPro2? I don't see anyone selling them yet. 21:37 < nmz787> bkero this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824705001 21:37 < nmz787> .title 21:37 < yoleaux> ZTE SPro MF97W 854x480 WVGA 100 Lumens, Android 4.2 Touchscreen Interface, WiFi / Bluetooth, Mobile hotspot, HDMI / USB-A Inputs, Portable LED Projector - Newegg.com 21:37 < bkero> nmz787: sPro2 is due out much later this year. SPro is due out...well, was due out on the 6th. 21:37 < bkero> Then it got pushed back to the 16th, now says 20th. 22:05 -!- skyraider [uid41097@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-luanfnuxzfcppqnn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:16 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:16 -!- delinquentme [~dingo@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:24 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:26 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:21 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:21 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:24 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168 23:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.165.1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:27 -!- pete4242 [~smuxi@boole.london.hackspace.org.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:52 -!- augur_ [~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:52 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] --- Log closed Sun Jan 11 00:00:20 2015