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00:42 < CRM114> hi
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02:32 < heath> if anyone ever decides to buy me something, don't hesitate to get me one of these: http://jonnyonthe.com/images/design/product-somneo-sleep-mask.jpg
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02:34 < heath> "Somneo Sleep Trainer that exploits one- or two-hour windows for strategic naps in mobile sleeping environments. Screening out ambient noise and visual distractions, the mask carries a heating element around the eyes, based on the finding that facial warming helps send people to sleep. It also carries a blue light that gradually brightens as your set alarm time approaches, suppressing the sleep hormone melatonin for a less groggy awakening."
02:34 < heath> " The idea of the Somneo is to fast-track through Stage 1 sleep, a gateway stage with few inherent benefits, and enter Stage 2, which at least restores fatigued muscles and replenishes alertness."
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03:05 < heath> https://github.com/yaronn/blessed-contrib
03:05 < heath> Build dashboards using ascii/ansi art and javascript
03:18 < narwh4l> not sure if impressed or disgusted
03:18 < narwh4l> nodejs is how I know there is no god
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03:52 < cluckj> fenn, the glucowatch apparently was pretty terrible at reading glucose
03:52 < cluckj> the dexcom sensor that the hack I pasted is based on, is really quite good at it
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04:11 < justanotheruser> fenn: well I'm not looking to spend $2m o_O
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06:27 < heath> justanotheruser: i still have my grant proposal for a fablab
06:27 < heath> if you need one
06:27 < justanotheruser> heath: how much is it/
06:27 < heath> it was a template given to me by the MIT fablab
06:28 < justanotheruser> kanzure: was telling me yesterday I could bootstrap my ability to make cool stuff for less than $1 million
06:28 < heath> definitely the case
06:28 < heath> you can start making cool stuff for 1% of that
06:29 < heath> 2% and you might need a team :)
06:29 < ParahSailin> good grief "[DIYbio] Bioengineering a Dragon"
06:29 < heath> no clue how much the grant asked for now, i'd have to look
06:29 < justanotheruser> I probably will just end up finding a hackerspace, unfortunately there are none where I live
06:30 < ParahSailin> dragons are hexapods, so cannot make one out of tetrapod, best bet is to start with a lobster
06:30 < heath> justanotheruser: i don't think there was a specific price
06:30 < ParahSailin> the chinese word for lobster is dragon shrimp so you're almost there already
06:30 < heath> it's just a generic template for when you apply for various grants iirc
06:30 < heath> i'm sick of the grant thing though
06:30 < heath> probably better to start a business
06:32 < justanotheruser> do businesses actually pay you to buy toys?
06:32 < heath> if you're the manager, you pay yourself for whatever you want/need
06:32 < justanotheruser> What is the grant usually for? A research team? A hackerspace?
06:32 < heath> s/manager/owner
06:32 < heath> depends, i had about 30? grants on a list
06:32 < heath> don't recall how many we applied for
06:33 < heath> or you could do like most people and work on interesting things on the side and hope that one day you hit a jackpot which can be used to pursue your hobbies full time
06:34 < justanotheruser> Yeah
06:34 < justanotheruser> It seems hackerspaces are much more cost effective
06:34 < justanotheruser> I'd rather spend $2k and share between 50 people
06:35 < cluckj> hackerspaces multiply expertise
06:35 < cluckj> if you don't know how to do something, there is someone who can show you how to do it in 5 minutes instead of you spending a few hours on the internet :)
06:35 < justanotheruser> yep
06:36 < justanotheruser> are most hackerspaces also startup incubators?
06:36 < heath> justanotheruser: sounds almost like you're going through what i experienced
06:36 < heath> i want a fablab! okay, i'll settle for a hackerspace
06:36 < cluckj> sort of?
06:36 < heath> justanotheruser: some businesses come from them
06:36 < cluckj> some are intentionally setup that way
06:36 < cluckj> (they tend to be the sleazier ones imho)
06:38 < cluckj> and like...cost a bunch of money to join
06:38 < heath> that's my experience as well
06:38 < cluckj> ya
06:39 < cluckj> the folks that start the "hacker" (read: incubator) spaces tend to want to exploit local hacker talent for their own benefit
06:39 < cluckj> at least from what I've seen :o
06:41 < cluckj> justanotheruser, where are you located?
06:41 < justanotheruser> cluckj: middle of nowhere, midwest
06:42 < justanotheruser> I won't be living here more than a year longer though
06:42 < cluckj> lol
06:42 < cluckj> like you live in the middle of nowhere, or in a city in the middle of nowhere?
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06:43 < heath> justanotheruser: what's the metro population there?
06:43 < justanotheruser> metro?
06:43 < justanotheruser> like the big city an hour away from me?
06:43 < cluckj> ouch
06:44 < justanotheruser> my cities population is ~25k
06:44 < justanotheruser> bbl
06:44 < cluckj> k
06:45 < cluckj> my city is 50k population and we have a hacker (incubator) space
06:46 < eudoxia> one million people live in this city and there isn't a hackerspace
06:47 < heath> my hometown: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence,_Alabama
06:47 < heath> metro 147k
06:47 < cluckj> make one, I bet there are a bunch of hackers that would love a space
06:47 < heath> it was possible there
06:47 < heath> but it was difficult because we were all broke college students
06:48 < cluckj> that's kinda the best way to start a hackerspace :)
06:48 < heath> my advice: if you can afford it, do it. if you don't have the money, start a business
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06:49 < cluckj> yeah
06:49 < cluckj> my experience of BOSSLAB was that's how they did it
06:49 < heath> start a business || or get a job
06:49 < heath> s/or// :)
06:49 < cluckj> it helped that there was an educational non-profit that was super friendly to them using their space
06:50 < cluckj> bunch of broke folks sharing a space/equipment = hackerspace
06:51 < cluckj> run workshops for local kids on arduino programming or something to raise cash
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07:32 < heath> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_Iron
07:33 < heath> .w SRWare_Iron
07:33 < yoleaux> Sorry, I couldn't find a definition for 'SRWare_Iron'.
07:33 < heath> .tw SRWare_Iron
07:33 < yoleaux> Och, A cannae finde nae tweet
07:33 < heath> one of these
07:33 < heath> ...
07:34 < heath> .wa SRWare_Iron
07:34 < yoleaux> S: R: W: a: r: e: _: I: r: o: n: English words: (no complete common words); English word continuations: (no continuations)
07:35 < heath> .wik SRWare_Iron
07:35 < yoleaux> "SRWare Iron is a freeware web browser, and an implementation of Chromium by SRWare of Germany. It primarily aims to eliminate usage tracking and other privacy-compromising functionality that the Google Chrome browser includes." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_Iron
07:35 < heath> yay
07:35 < heath> yoleaux is based on which bot?
07:39 < heath> .title http://hackaday.com/2015/01/12/electroplating-copper-and-silver-onto-3d-prints/
07:39 < yoleaux> Electroplating Copper and Silver onto 3D Prints | Hackaday
07:47 < kanzure> 06:30 < ParahSailin> dragons are hexapods, so cannot make one out of tetrapod, best bet is to start with a lobster
07:48 < cluckj> tape two tetrapods together, yeesh this ain't rocket science
07:49 < cluckj> maybe remove some legs w/e
07:50 < kragen> heath: saxo iirc
07:51 < kanzure> eudoxia: you have better things to be doing than starting local hackerspaces
07:51 < eudoxia> kanzure: that's why i won't
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07:59 < kanzure> eudoxia: perfect
08:00 < kanzure> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/theres-a-problem-in-the-silk-road-trial-the-jury-doesnt-get-the-internet
08:02 < heath> yikes
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08:33 < tiktaalik> paperbot
08:33 < tiktaalik> where you go?
08:33 < tiktaalik> kanzure: ^
08:36 < kanzure> paperbot is dead until someone fixes it
08:36 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot
08:36 < jrayhawk_> for now there's libgen.in
08:37 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/38
08:37 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/36
08:37 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/32
08:38 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/8
08:38 < kanzure> https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues/4 <--- probably the most important open issue
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10:55 < nmz787_i> heath: I saw that electroplating link yesterday, pretty cool. I actually posted online about a similar idea (using carbon as a base layer) and was told that it would likely be too weak of an adhesion which would cause the plating to flake off.
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11:10 < heath> http://www.nature.com/news/game-theorists-crack-poker-1.16683
11:10 < heath> .title
11:10 < yoleaux> Game theorists crack poker : Nature News & Comment
11:12 < heath> "Of course, no poker algorithm can be mathematically guaranteed to win every game, because the game involves a large element of chance based on the hand you’re dealt. But Bowling and his colleagues have demonstrated that their algorithm always wins in the long run."
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11:35 < cluckj> kanzure you are rubbing off on me: <cluckj> hackers don't need FDA approval :)
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11:37 < heath> .title http://www.badaward.nl/open-call-2015/
11:37 < yoleaux> OPEN CALL 2015 | Bio Art & Design Awards
11:37 < heath> –New this year: non-EU residents are encouraged to apply and may use
11:37 < heath> Skype for the FIRST matchmaking event instead of having to pay for a
11:37 < heath> trip to The Hague. Finalists will still have to come to the Hague to
11:37 < heath> present on May 22.
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11:58 < nmz787_i> cluckj: so do you have one of those implanted glucose monitors already?
11:59 < cluckj> yes
11:59 < cluckj> I've had one for about 16 months
12:02 < cluckj> there are things I learned today in looking for the dev of that device that I am even more excited about >:D
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12:14 < nmz787_i> cluckj: yeah the dexdrip code didn't seem to be doing too much in the way of processing... they basically defined a struct ( I think) for the incoming data, to massage it into something more easily emitted to the bluetooth client
12:14 < cluckj> yep
12:14 < nmz787_i> that file was only around 300 lines long too
12:14 < nmz787_i> so should be easy to port to any other system
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12:15 < cluckj> theoretically :)
12:18 < nmz787_i> i got the BLE module demo working last night
12:18 < nmz787_i> then I got stuck with C++ type conversions
12:18 < nmz787_i> :/
12:18 < nmz787_i> too much Python lately I guess
12:18 < cluckj> :/
12:19 < cluckj> I haven't coded C++ in like 10 years
12:22 < cluckj> I might just put that hack together as-is...it's only about $55
12:24 < nmz787_i> i'd test it for you if i had a sensor
12:24 < nmz787_i> as I have some of the nRF2401 chips
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12:26 < cluckj> I have two, but one is broken :(
12:27 < cluckj> hang out outside an endocrinologist's office and you're bound to pick up some dexcom traffic
12:30 < nmz787_i> lol
12:33 < cluckj> "excuse me miss may I have your digits? I mean dexcom transmitter ID?"
12:34 < cluckj> can the nrf2401 do bluetooth?
12:34 < nmz787_i> no
12:34 < nmz787_i> only the ISM stuff
12:35 < nmz787_i> oh
12:35 < nmz787_i> http://blog.cyberexplorer.me/2014/01/sniffing-and-decoding-nrf24l01-and.html
12:35 < nmz787_i> used an rtl-sdr
12:35 < nmz787_i> to sniff bluetooth and ISM
12:36 < cluckj> neat
12:38 < cluckj> might be easier to stick a bt module to the arduino tho
12:39 < nmz787_i> guess it depends what you are after
12:39 < nmz787_i> yesterday you were mentioning usb-otg
12:39 < cluckj> yes
12:40 < cluckj> plugging it into a cell phone might also be possible
12:40 < nmz787_i> using adb bridge would work if using android
12:40 < cluckj> especially since another project hooks the receiver to a cell phone to download the data
12:43 < cluckj> which is great under certain use conditions (like for children who need to go to school and be monitored by their parents at a distance)
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12:49 < cluckj> for me it would be sticking a sniffer onto my cell phone and running it all on there
12:50 < kanzure> hmm yeah i don't know why you would bother monitoring the kids from a distance, it's not like you could trust the school to actually respond to medical needs
12:50 < cluckj> I know right
12:50 < kanzure> aren't those the institutions that confiscate inhalers and shit?
12:50 < cluckj> yep
12:50 < kanzure> k
12:51 < cluckj> they insist on keeping the inhalers in the nurse's office because WHAT IF LITTLE TIMMY DOESNT USE IT AS DIRECTED???
12:51 < nmz787_i> I might argue Timmy should know right from wrong enough if they're the age where I release them to non-biological-parents
12:52 < cluckj> or like uses it as a toy gun
12:52 < kanzure> every kid should be fitted with a mandatory epinephrine pen
12:52 < kanzure> also every kid should be instructed in the correct operation of said epinephrine pen
12:53 < kanzure> note: kids should each get one or two freebie pranks involving aforementioned epinephrine delivery device
12:54 < cluckj> mutually assured endocrine disruption
12:54 < nmz787_i> when I worked in the desert we would joke about using the epi pen on some day we were super-bored... never did though
12:54 < cluckj> lol
12:56 < nmz787_i> well presumably a school would have wifi, so the esp8266 might be good for that scenario... if cell phones at a school were banned or similarly confiscated by the teacher
12:56 < kanzure> often schools do not allow students on wifi
12:57 < nmz787_i> hmm
12:57 < nmz787_i> I don't remember if wifi was a big thing when I was in high school
12:57 < nmz787_i> I remember having a pppoe DSL modem for my computer
12:58 < cluckj> nmz787, it would be good because it could cut out the need for a second receiver
12:58 < cluckj> the nightscout hack is cell phone + standard receiver in a box in a backpack
12:58 < cluckj> so the kid might have one attached to their belt too
12:59 < nmz787_i> heh
12:59 < nmz787_i> they're not getting picked on
12:59  * nmz787_i sarcasm
12:59 < cluckj> the receivers are like....$600?
12:59 < cluckj> lol
13:00 < nmz787_i> huh
13:00 < cluckj> from the manufacturer
13:01 < nmz787_i> well ya so you could do ISM to bluetooth, ISM to wifi, or ISM to USB (more easily using android ADB interface, rather than full USB if needed)
13:01 < nmz787_i> the wixel is nice as an integrated-component, too bad firmware dev is so sucky
13:02 < nmz787_i> I have a few TI boards and the only ones I ever really used were the MSP430's since ppl ported Arduino to it (under Energia)
13:03 < nmz787_i> the ARM board and the DSP board I have are just an insane amount of extra work to get setup, not to mention needing some crappy IDEs to program them
13:04 < nmz787_i> and their programmer hardware often isn't cheap or standardized
13:04 < cluckj> yes
13:07 < nmz787_i> here's a hack to reduce parts count a bit... seems like a bad way to go about medical data transfer though http://hackaday.com/2013/09/21/sending-data-over-bluetooth-low-energy-with-a-cheap-nrf24l01-module/
13:08 < cluckj> the glucose data is pretty low-impact medical data
13:10 < nmz787_i> "So... we cannot accept connections, but not all is lost... BTLE allows unsolicited advertisements, so we can still do some cool things by making them broadcast data to anyone who'll listen. Let's work out just how much data we can send... Out of our 32-byte budget: 3 go into CRC, 2 go into the ADV_NONCONN_IND packet header, and 6 go into the MAC address, leaving us with 21 bytes of payload. This payload, however, must have
13:10 < nmz787_i> structure. Assuming minimum required headers, we can get away with sending 19 bytes of data if we do not want our device to broadcast a name. If we do want a name, we have 17 bytes to split between the name (in UTF-8) and our data. And if we want to comply with the spec better and broadcast device attributes, we'll have 14 bytes to split between name and data or 16 bytes of pure data - not too bad."
13:11 < cluckj> at least for me the best use case would be sensor --> ISM --> android USB --> pebble
13:12 < cluckj> I have a nexus 5 so idk how the usb otg stuff works on it
13:12 < cluckj> might need an extended firmware
13:13 < nmz787_i> i think you'd want the ISM-detector to act as a usb-device, not a host (which is what you'd use usb-otg to achieve)
13:14 < nmz787_i> (which is easier to impliment than usb-otg/usb-host)
13:14 < cluckj> yes
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13:14 < cluckj> I mean to use the phone as the host and the sniffer as the device
13:14 < nmz787_i> ah, then shouldn't need to change firmware, unless it's on the phone
13:14 < cluckj> that's what I mean :)
13:15 < cluckj> I haven't checked to see what the state of nexus 5 usb otg is
13:15 < nmz787_i> hmm
13:15 < cluckj> I don't think it natively supports it in the software
13:15 < nmz787_i> i was disappointed a few weeks ago when I tried plugging my 2TB MyBook drive into my phone
13:16 < nmz787_i> usb sticks work, but not the spinning disk (at least not 2TB, haven't tried others)
13:16 < nmz787_i> called up HTC and complained/filed a ticket
13:16 < nmz787_i> so much for their phone-of-the-year
13:16 < cluckj> lol
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13:18 < nmz787_i> you could probably use this wixel demo to adapt for your purposes https://www.pololu.com/docs/0J59/all
13:18 < nmz787_i> use the HID or storage profiles
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13:19 < cluckj> hmm
13:19 < nmz787_i> maybe do base64 conversion first
13:19 < nmz787_i> do you care about iOS support at all?
13:19 < cluckj> nope
13:20 < nmz787_i> not sure what they support as far as plugging stuff in
13:20 < cluckj> I don't think the app that does the glucose math is for iOS
13:21 < nmz787_i> I know iOS only supports BLE without a hardware ID chip on the hardware
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13:29 < cluckj> https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6127700?hl=en
13:29 < cluckj> neat
13:29 < cluckj> host mode supported in lollipop
13:29 < cluckj> I don't think it was before
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14:02 < kanzure> 14:00 < cntrational> gwern: you watched Suisei no Gargantia, right?
14:03 < kanzure> 14:00 < cntrational> it contains a transhumanist plotline
14:03 < kanzure> 14:00 < cntrational> (and the main char is technically transhumanist)
14:03 < kanzure> am skeptical, have not read synopsis, no guarantees is not pile of crap
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14:04 < cluckj> "technically transhumanist" is a pretty broad category
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14:08 < nmz787_i> cluckj: that looks like it is specific to audio
14:08 < cluckj> yeah but it says the host capability is there
14:09 < nmz787_i> yeah, but that is present in many devices and android versions
14:09 < nmz787_i> in simplest for it's probably just for mass storage stuff
14:09 < nmz787_i> "Android version 3.1 or newer supports USB On-The-Go, but not on all devices"
14:10 < cluckj> I think I'd have to plug in the parts and see what happens, then go from there
14:10 < nmz787_i> http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/usb/host.html
14:12 < nmz787_i> do you really use your phone so little that you could deal with it being attached via cable all the time?
14:13 < cluckj> I use it all the time
14:13 < andytoshi> is there a good site to find latest videos of popular-level talks by folks like dan denett, eli yudkowsky, etc?
14:14 < cluckj> it would not be hard to put the usb otg dongle and the wixel into a small enclosure that stays attached to the phone all the time
14:21 < cluckj> oh nice usb otg just needs some pins jumpered on the host end
14:22 < kanzure> andytoshi: ted? :(
14:22 < kanzure> i suppose you said good.... so no. just tedtalks or youtube.
14:23 < andytoshi> kanzure: :/ i'm hoping for something like a youtube search (which gives you all sorts of academic talks) but sorted by talk date instead of upload date (and is maybe more exhaustive)
14:23 < kanzure> oh wait, i made that site once
14:23  * kanzure thinks
14:24 < kanzure> i called it hplusvideo
14:24 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/hplusroadmap-hplusvideo-links.txt
14:27 < cluckj> nmz787, https://github.com/tzachi-dar/dexterity
14:28 < andytoshi> awesome thx a billion kanzure
14:38 < nmz787_i> cluckj: looks like they have some USB related code in there
14:42 < nmz787_i> cluckj: the pebble has bluetooth/BLE... so if your goal is to just push it to there, it may be possible to do directly
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15:07 < nmz787_i> if I have a dict {'a':1, 'b':1}... any ideas for how to transform it into {1:['a','b']} ?
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15:11 < kanzure> nmz787_i: dict([(value, key) for (key, value) in mydict.items()])
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15:12 < nmz787_i> i did if I have a dict {'a':1, 'b':1}... any ideas for how to transform it into {1:['a','b']} ?
15:12 < nmz787_i> er
15:12 < nmz787_i> o={v:[k for k in p.keys() if p[k]==v] for v in set(p.values())}
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15:12 < justanot1eruser> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5946236/how-to-merge-multiple-dicts-with-same-key
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15:13 < justanot1eruser> swith value and key then do that
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15:22 < nmz787_i> kanzure: who can we pay to do grunt-work for BRL-CAD projects?
15:22 < nmz787_i> kanzure: like going through all their PDFs and creating a github of examples
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15:27 < kanzure> nmz787_i: they have some students doing free or paid work for them, ask them if any of the students are available
15:27 < kanzure> i've read through eudoxia's changes here but can someone else provide a second pair of eyes? https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/pull/39
15:30 < nmz787_i> kanzure: re papers.py not being needed, is that because the server is now using those proxy URLs by default, at the OS level?
15:30 < nmz787_i> (I noticed something like that when I used wget on there recently)
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15:34 < nmz787_i> kanzure: changes look harmless
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16:42 < kanzure> eudoxia: thank you
16:42 < eudoxia> kanzure: it wasn't really anything meaningful, like actually fixing paperbot, but i guess it's something
16:43 < kanzure> ahaha "Defense in Silk Road Trial Says Mt. Gox CEO Was the Real Dread Pirate Roberts"
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16:52 < eudoxia> i want to believe
16:57 < kanzure> "Looks like Toshihiko Baba of Yokohama National Univ. found a way to sense adsorption without any markers involved, just plain old biomolecules and super special light. The significant thing is the scale of a sensor appears to be a zone 10 x 10 microns. Not sure if it senses above the plane of the photo or at the edge yet. It can detect changes to anything in that small zone, so thousands of them can be arrayed, (maybe), and they can be ...
16:57 < kanzure> ... as selective as whatever you can glue to their surface.  The surface can be some thin zircon oxide, which sounds fairly inert, and charge effects change the light intensity sensed. So, it's an analog to Jeswin's suggestion of using PCR/electrophoresis as the "readout" for a specific primer.  But it could do "reads" per second if there was some way to get the adsorbed molecules off quickly, then reread...
16:57 < kanzure> +"
16:57 < nmz787_i> seems OK, but also far from DIY
16:57 < nmz787_i> seems sort of like an ISFET maybe
17:00 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/sarahjeong/status/555821164661321728
17:00 < yoleaux> Investigation found that Mutum Sigilum, a Karpeles holding, had registered http://silkroadmarket.org #SilkRoadTrial (@sarahjeong, in reply to tw:555820942098972673)
17:02 < kanzure> .title http://intronetworks.cs.luc.edu/current/html/newtcps.html
17:02 < yoleaux> 15 Newer TCP Implementations — An Introduction to Computer Networks
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17:52 < justanotheruser> omg guys, http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/cmu_arctic/packed/ is broken
17:53 < justanotheruser> and archive.org doesn't have the files
17:53 < justanotheruser> superkuh: please help
17:54 < superkuh> I should have some of them around here.
17:54 < justanotheruser> do you have US male or female?
17:55 < superkuh> http://superkuh.com/cmuvoices.txt
17:56 < justanotheruser> superkuh: bdl seems to be US male, but I have no idea what bdl is
17:56 < justanotheruser> maybe the voice actors initials?
17:58 < justanotheruser> anyways, I would appreciate bdl/US male
17:58 < superkuh> http://superkuh.com/festival/
17:59 < justanotheruser> thank you
17:59 < superkuh> I also have the nitech if you want them.
17:59 < justanotheruser> what is nitech
17:59 < justanotheruser> I'm a festival noob
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17:59 < superkuh> Another set of decent voices from a Japanese university who's name relateds to n and i.
17:59 < superkuh> English voices.
18:00 < justanotheruser> they are esl?
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18:02 < superkuh> I don't know that acronym.
18:04 < justanotheruser> english second language
18:05 < superkuh> I don't think I'd call them that. They sound like normal english voices as far as festival voices can sound normal.
18:05 < justanotheruser> lol You may not access or use the site superkuh.com unless you are under 7 years of age. If you do not agree then you must leave now.
18:06 < justanotheruser> You should have included that on the download page :(
18:06 < justanotheruser> sorry for using your bandwidth dishonestly
18:06 < superkuh> I *just* created the nginx entry and perms for that dir.
18:06 < superkuh> In my /library it's there warning.
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18:11 < justanotheruser> Is a license allowing me to throttle downloads of the source file to incredible slow rates GPL compatible?
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18:35 < nmz787> justanotheruser: why would that have to be in the license?
18:36 < nmz787> justanotheruser: wouldn't that just be a per-connection setting on the server you were fileserving from?
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18:49  * nmz787 so bored I had to start chatting with aliexpress sellers
18:51 < kanzure> trolling them or what?
18:52 < nmz787> looking for a simple custom optic
18:52 < nmz787> 2 45-deg prisms joined with a square extension
18:52 < kanzure> "Many of the comments mentioned this should have been caught in the code review. I suspect they don't perform code reviews. Makes me wonder, is there a tool, system, service for auditing how many 'pair of eyes' have reviewed a given line of code. This would be hard to determine, but could be useful. I am envisioning a heatmap bar or overlay that indicates the number of reviews a line of code has received."
18:52 < kanzure> (re: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8896186 )
18:54 < nmz787> http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/2_prisms.png
18:54 < kanzure> "If it doesn't exist in at least three places, it doesn't actually exist"
18:57 < kanzure> according to this heuristic, i do not exist
19:01 < kanzure> .in 34h paperbot unit tests
19:01 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll remind you on 17 Jan 2015 13:01Z
19:01 < nmz787> their first response 'this is a dove prism' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dove_prism
19:04 < kanzure> "The majority of the total biomass of our planet is represented by organisms that are insect size and smaller. Similar constraints would affect engineered structures. Take for example the heat-dissipation issues involved. Heat generation in any structure would scale by the cube of its linear dimension (volume) while heat transfer would scale by the square (surface area). Large structures are therefore thermodynamically inefficient. And ...
19:04 < kanzure> ... considering that our state of the art telescopes are only barely capable of find earth-sized exoplanets under ideal conditions, it is very likely any reasonable structures such as dyson swarms or M-brains would escape our notice. Perhaps simply causing their parent stars to appear as a cooler spectral class. This would lead to "inhabited" yellow dwarf systems being misclassified as red dwarves. Not to mention the huge number of ...
19:05 < kanzure> ... undetected brown dwarfs hypothesized to exist. So to summarize, the methods we are using to find ET are weak and heavily biased toward meat-civilizations."
19:05 < kanzure> "I like the outside-the-box thinking that dark matter (DM) could be post-singularity civilizations, but unfortunately after some thought I think current knowledge makes it seem very unlikely. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that proposition, but I think the weak version would be that some of it is made up of post-singularity entities and the strong version would be that all of it is PSEs. A big strike against the strong version of ...
19:05 < kanzure> ... that hypothesis is that we can map out DM in galaxies and see that it's relatively uniformly distributed throughout each galaxy and out to > 4 times the luminal galaxy radius. Any entities or civilization would need structure as negentropy and if the strong hypothesis were true then we would expect to observe either more structure or less uniformity between DM inside and outside the galaxy (one should be favorable, not equally ...
19:05 < kanzure> ... acceptable). This is why all DM can't be PSEs."
19:05 < kanzure> "4. Many more elegant and predictive hypotheses for DM have been proposed which Occam's Razor favors."
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20:05 < kanzure> "turn your GitHub links into permalinks (hit 'y' in the GH interface once you've targeted the file and line) so changes to master don't impact your links"
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21:24 < kanzure> .py import time
21:28 < kanzure> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/01/meet-keysweeper-the-10-usb-charger-that-steals-ms-keyboard-strokes/
21:28 < kanzure> "The weakness that makes exploits like KeySweeper possible is encryption routines built into Microsoft wireless keyboards that can fairly be described as lackadaisical.  Keystrokes are encoded with the XOR algorithm using the keyboard MAC address as the key.  Since the nRF24L01+ chip can read the MAC address, the measure provides little security against moderately determined hackers.  To make things even easier on attackers, all ...
21:29 < kanzure> ... Microsoft keyboards begin with 0xCD as the MAC.  As a result, even if an attacker doesn't know the MAC address, we can decrypt a keystroke, as the alignment will never change, and 0xCD is always the first byte of the MAC (see the section subtitled "Decrypting Keystrokes" for more on this)."
21:29 < kanzure> http://samy.pl/keysweeper/#dec
21:29 < kanzure> "Thorsten Schröder and Max Moser presented a great device, the KeyKeriki, capable of sniffing Microsoft keyboards and have fully reverse engineered the decryption process and produced a device for doing so.  However Travis points out that their device requires two radios and a high-end microcontroller to capture and parse packets at the 2Mbps speed the keyboards communicate at.  Travis' project is great as well, however requires a host ...
21:29 < kanzure> ... computer and will be too large for our covert implementation.  We improve upon these designs in this scenario by requiring only an inexpensive radio and microcontroller, both low power and very small, no computer or fancy radios required. Thorsten and Max discovered the keystrokes are simply encrypted (xor'd) with the MAC address in ECB mode, which we are able to sniff after using Travis' method of abusing the nRF24L01+ to both sniff ...
21:29 < kanzure> ... and reveal MAC addresses.  This "encryption" is the equivalent of taking a deck of cards, cutting it once, and calling it shuffled. After further investigation, I found that since we now know all Microsoft keyboards begin with 0xCD as the MAC address, the actual keystroke (in orange below) happens to be aligned with the first byte of the MAC address (0xCD).  This means even if we do not know the MAC address, we can decrypt the ...
21:29 < kanzure> ... keystroke, as the alignment will never change, and 0xCD is always the first byte of the MAC."
21:30 < kanzure> "An additional discovery is that since the length of the encryption portion of the packet is 11 bytes, the MAC is 5 bytes, and the CRC is each byte xor'd with another (before encryption), something interesting happens.  Since the MAC is xor'd twice, we can also calculate the checksum without knowing the MAC address.  This is because the MAC address is in there in full twice, and xoring any number by itself (or xor the MAC with the MAC) ...
21:30 < kanzure> ... cancels itself out.  The 11th byte is the first byte of the MAC again, which we always know is 0xCD.  This allows us to perform other attacks, such as altering the keystroke and CRC, again without knowing the MAC address.  I will present this and some other fun demonstrations in a future project."
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