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05:02 < heath> anyone by chance know the difference between International Money Transfer Service and International Payout Network?
05:03 < heath> hm, i really do need to find someone that has a little experience who can give me a little advice in this area
05:09 < kanzure> remittance is going to eat you alive man don't do it
05:20 < kanzure> " I was wondering if there's a formal name for this shape? Slime mold growth patterns are very reminiscent of it, for instance. And n-body simulations. And the 'cosmic web'."
05:21 < cluckj> lol
05:21 < cluckj> it's called the-not-so-secret structure of the universe
05:22 < kanzure> i was just going to call it a filamentous network and call it a day
05:22 < kanzure> also this is a cool visualization http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e7/Observable_universe_logarithmic_illustration.png/1024px-Observable_universe_logarithmic_illustration.png
05:26 < heath> it's too hard to let go of the idea
05:26 < heath> i think there's a lot of regulation that will eat me alive if that's what you're talking about
05:26 < kanzure> no
05:26 < kanzure> stuff like hedging
05:27 < heath> aye, now there's something these services don't offer
05:27 < kanzure> er, of course they are hedging
05:28 < kanzure> otherwise they would be even more susceptible to death
05:29 < heath> they are hedging themselves, but they don't offer that ability to hedge yourself
05:29 < heath> that's what i was referencing
05:30 < heath> if i get the money to a western africa exchange, at the rate things are going, there won't be much money to collect
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05:44 < heath> no more remittance discussion from me
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06:14 < heath> .title https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13019
06:14 < yoleaux> SparkFun BLE Mate 2 - WRL-13019 - SparkFun Electronics
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06:49 < heath> http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?Ntk=P_MarCom&Ntt=102657730
06:49 < heath> .title
06:49 < yoleaux> Nordic Semiconductor Produkte | Mouser
06:49 < heath> nrf51822
06:50 < kanzure> springer just got bought
06:51 < heath> ref?
06:52 < kanzure> informant
06:52 < heath> only thing i'm seeing is old: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-19/bc-partners-to-buy-springer-science-for-4-4-billion.html
06:52 < heath> k
06:52 < eudoxia> it probably literally just happened and kanzure has inside info
06:52 < kanzure> i think springer science is something else
06:53 < kanzure> i'm not very sure
06:53 < kanzure> .title http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/15/publishing-ma-idUSF9N0TV00F20150115
06:53 < yoleaux> Nature magazine publisher to merge with Springer Science | Reuters
06:53 < kanzure> "The publisher of science magazines Nature and Scientific American is merging with private equity-owned peer Springer Science+Business Media, creating a group with 1.5 billion euros ($1.75 billion) in annual sales and 13,000 employees."
06:54 < kanzure> "Germany's Holtzbrinck, which owns Nature publisher Macmillan Science and Education, will combine the majority of its activities with BC Partners' Springer unit, which among other publishes scientific, technical and medical books and journals."
06:54 < kanzure> "Springer Science Chief Executive Derk Haank will head the new merged company, which will have an enterprise value of more than 5 billion euros. Macmillan Science and Education Chief Executive Annette Thomas will serve as Chief Scientific Officer. .... Macmillan's English language school books and social sciences publisher Palgrave Macmillan will be part of the merged entity, as will Springer's publications and data for professionals. ...
06:54 < kanzure> ... Springer Science is a separate company from German publisher Axel Springer owning leading tabloid Bild, while Holtzbrinck Publishing is a different company than Dieter von Holtzbrinck Medien, which publishes German business daily Handelsblatt."
06:55 < kanzure> "Holtzbrinck's investments in IT and software businesses, its consumer books unit Macmillan Publishers and its U.S. higher education business will not be part of the transaction."
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09:04 < kanzure> "No. A Dysoned star will not have a natural stellar spectrum: it will not look like a ball of cool plasma (absorption lines from various metals in the stellar atmosphere would be absent). If it is a cloud, it would be a mixture of a stellar spectrum with a cold black-body spectrum. It would look odd. But it might be missed because of its faintness or because the software is not looking for things like that. Thermodynamic efficiency ...
09:04 < kanzure> ... depends on what you want to make."
09:05 < kanzure> "Robert’s thermal model for M-brains as dark matter never agreed with observation either.  We struggled mightily to explain how they could be sufficiently cool but I never could get the equations to go there.  For a few heady weeks back in 2011, I thought I had the answer: they could appear sufficiently cool by reflecting a very large fraction of the light in one direction.  Then it occurred to me there should be a few very bright ...
09:05 < kanzure> ... objects, M-brains which pointed their energy our way.  Again grasping at straws, I thought of Halton Arp’s work which suggested that quasars are associated with galaxies.  Perhaps quasars were M-brains spraying light directly at us.  Again the equations didn’t work, damn. Robert was never fully convinced by my entropy equations in any case, so it is unclear he ever completely abandoned the notion.  I need a good thermodynamic ...
09:05 < kanzure> ... simulation to really prove it out.  Reasoning: I think we as a species are near the technological capability level to start creating an M-brain. There was a silver lining to that cloud however: those same equations led me to realize that not only can an M-brain direct its energy, as far as I can tell, it must.  Otherwise it eventually overheats.  By the time I realized that however, Robert had already perished, which was late ...
09:05 < kanzure> ... February 2011.  I was not able to share that finding with him.  I presented the finding to an aerospace engineering group in November 2011."
09:13 < kanzure> eudoxia: thanks for the code
09:14 < eudoxia> kanzure: yw kanz
09:14 < eudoxia> re: dyson spheres, maybe relativistic jets are just the head radiators of black hole brains
09:14 < eudoxia> (probably not)
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09:15 < eudoxia> s/head/heats
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10:48 < kanzure> "Characterisation of a diverse range of circular Rep-encoding DNA viruses recovered from a sewage treatment oxidation pond"
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10:51 < kanzure> "Using non-enzymatic chemistry to influence microbial metabolism" http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S136759311400194X
10:51 < kanzure> "Despite an increasing interest in developing new, non-enzymatic chemical reactions capable of functioning in the presence of living organisms, the ability of such transformations to interface with cellular metabolism and influence biological function is a comparatively underexplored area of research. This review will discuss efforts to combine non-enzymatic chemistry with microbial metabolism. We will highlight recent and historical ...
10:51 < kanzure> ... uses of non-biological reactions to study microbial growth and function, the use of non-enzymatic transformations to rescue auxotrophic microorganisms, and the combination of engineered microbial metabolism and biocompatible chemical reactions for organic synthesis."
10:52 < kanzure> what "The conceptus regulates tryptophanyl-tRNA synthetase and superoxide dismutase 2 in the sheep caruncular endometrium during early pregnancy"
10:57 < kanzure> "Photo-biotechnology as a tool to improve agronomic traits in crops" http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S073497501400192X
10:57 < kanzure> "Given the importance of phytochromes in key plant developmental processes, genetically manipulating phytochrome expression offers a promising approach to crop improvement. Photo-biotechnology refers to the transgenic expression of phytochrome transgenes or variants of such transgenes. Several studies have indicated that crop cultivars can be improved by modulating the expression of phytochrome genes."
10:58 < kanzure> "The improved traits include enhanced yield, improved grass quality, shade-tolerance, and stress resistance. In this review, we discuss the transgenic expression of phytochrome A and its hyperactive mutant (Ser599Ala-PhyA) in selected crops, such as Zoysia japonica (Japanese lawn grass), Agrostis stolonifera (creeping bentgrass), Oryza sativa (rice), Solanum tuberosum (potato), and Ipomea batatas (sweet potato). The transgenic expression ...
10:58 < kanzure> ... of PhyA and its mutant in various plant species imparts biotechnologically useful traits. Here, we highlight recent advances in the field of photo-biotechnology and review the results of studies in which phytochromes or variants of phytochromes were transgenically expressed in various plant species. "
10:59 < kanzure> Nanoparticle-triggered release from lipid membrane vesicles http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1871678414022018
11:00 < kanzure> "Development and engineering of cell-free “artificial metabolisms” for preparative multi-enzymatic synthesis" http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187167841402202X
11:00 < kanzure> "A particular advantage of cell-free concepts arises from the inherent opportunity to construct novel biocatalytic reaction systems for the efficient synthesis of non-natural products (“artificial metabolisms”) by using enzymes specifically chosen or engineered for non-natural substrate promiscuity."
11:15 < nmz787_i> 'promiscuous enzyme, you're all that I need, you got what I want, but do you got what I need?'
11:15 < nmz787_i> 'Promiscuous enzyme, You're teasing me, You know what I want, And I got what you need'
11:15 < nmz787_i> hmm
11:15 < nmz787_i> that isn't as clever as I wanted it to be
11:17 < nmz787_i> '650nm is red, 450nm is blue, the organism's dead, But it's still kinda cute'
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12:26 < kanzure> pretty weird that we're so bad at making nootropics that we don't even have a nootropic that provides a dramatic placebo feeling of cognitive ability (although arguably we might have some stuff that weakly does this)
12:30 < cuba__> amphetamines do this maybe
12:30 < cuba__> ritalin too maybe
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12:31 < cuba> I tried only a few nootropics and was rather disappointed, it seems there is a big portion of people just feeling a very good placebo
12:31 < cuba> at least on the internet
12:33 < kanzure> .g "minimum viable nootropic"
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12:33 < yoleaux> No results found.
12:34 < kanzure> hmph
12:36 < nmz787_i> can't any placebo provide "a dramatic placebo feeling of cognitive ability"? I mean, placebo is placebo.
12:37 < nmz787_i> Also, isn
12:37 < cuba> most nootropic users don't test themselfs in any way to say it is not a placebo
12:37 < cuba> any nootropic recommendations btw?
12:37 < cuba> :)
12:38 < augur> yo yo yo mothafuckas
12:38 < augur> whats uppp
12:39 < nmz787_i> also, doesn't this get into the area of 'counterfeit' drugs... i.e. slap a label 'super cognitive ability pills' onto a bottle of cellulose-filled gel-caps and you're a misstep away from getting prosecuted for selling amphetamine or cocaine
12:40 < kanzure> my definition of "minimum viable nootropic" was something about a nootropic that enables a user (or is strongly likely to facilitate a user) designing, making and then consuming a better nootropic
12:41 < kanzure> usually placebos don't help you, because creating an even stronger placebo effect isn't going to get you anywhere?
12:41 < cuba> hah
12:41 < cuba> nmz787_i: depends on country, in the EU you can sell them if they are not on the market and are not sold for consume
12:42 < cuba> kanzure: can you recommend any substances?
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12:43 < kanzure> i stumbled into a pretty great local maxima when i was like ten, probably because of particular details of my physiology or something, so no i don't really have anything to recommend
12:44 < nmz787_i> be glad you stubled there, rather than being thrown
12:44  * nmz787_i did not enjoy fighting to keep ritalin out of my mouth as a child
12:45 < kanzure> i wih they had kept better notes about all the drugs (ritalin, neuropeptikillin, vasodestroyercomplex7, neurogrowthfactorminusminus, ...)
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12:46 < nmz787_i> cluckj: from the comments of that 'faking BLE' link https://github.com/sandeepmistry/arduino-nRF24L01-BLE
12:47 < nmz787_i> cluckj: another link https://github.com/floe/BTLE
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13:12 < cluckj> thx
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14:53 < fenn> steve's reaction on hearing that elon musk donated $10M toward AI safety research: "meh."
14:54 < fenn> http://futureoflife.org/misc/AI
14:55 < kanzure> haha "The research supported by the program will be carried out around the globe via an open grants competition"
14:55 < kanzure> hahaha "Anybody can send in a grant proposal, and the best ideas will win regardless of whether they come from academia, industry or elsewhere"
14:56 < kanzure> yeah right
14:57 < fenn> their list of "contacts" is highly biased toward academia (is biased the right word when 100% of the thing is in the category?)
14:58 < kanzure> but not only that, but there might be no good answers in ai safety anyway (other than "kill all humans")
14:58 < kanzure> so the whole thing seems "biased" from the outset
14:58 < fenn> ok i am not having this conversation
14:59 < kanzure> well, i'm sure singinst considered this strategy in the past, ask him why they didn't do that. i am sure there are good reasons.
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15:12 < Boscop_> for a laptop with 1920x1080 screen, does it make more sense to buy it as 15.6" or 17.3"?
15:13 < kanzure> that's not enough information to make decisions
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16:52 < kanzure> "When you play a cat video, more computation occurs than was done in the history of the world prior to 1940." pfft
16:52 < kanzure> what about human brain computations?
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16:57 < kanzure> "And there are no databases involved in Google; the whole web is stored in RAM" er, there can be ram-only databases.. i don't know why he expects his reader to believe him.
17:05 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjYAEtcW64k
17:05 < yoleaux> GM Project - Deadly Sins // Abstract Space Records - YouTube
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20:33 < kanzure> genehacker: yo
20:41 < genehacker> yo
20:41 < yoleaux> 4 Jan 2015 23:22Z <nmz787> genehacker: check out more detailed info here: https://github.com/nmz787/microfluidic-cad/   and     nmz787.github.io/html/microfluidics_cad.html
20:48 < nmz787> yo
20:52 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8902765
20:52 < yoleaux> So you want to abolish time zones | Hacker News
20:52 < kanzure> "With timezones, you can't just give the time, you must also give a location. "Time" doesn't exist with timezones, only "time-location"."
20:52 < kanzure> "But of course the author want to know if he can call someone out-of-the-blue by knowing where he is. Well, if you can use google to tell you what is the time in another timezone, you can use google to tell you what is the usual waking hour in this location. You don't need additional information in this example."
20:53 < kanzure> "With universal time, the worst case scenario is needing the same amount of information as we do today (current time + location). The best case scenario is having a sane way of communicating time."
20:56 < nmz787> i guess people could also choose to have dual-time displayed... local and universal
20:59 < kanzure> haha "How does this help people coordinate? If your time is different from mine, how do we get to the same place at the same time?
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21:41 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone.
21:41 < JayDugger> Had a co-worker turn down a job at SpaceX a few months ago.
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21:42 < JayDugger> SpaceX wanted 16-hour days out of their $60k/year contract-to-hire temps.
21:43 < JayDugger> Not the way to lure qualified people with families to your organization.
21:44 < fenn> that's a lot of money for a temp
21:44 < fenn> also a lot of hours
21:45 < JayDugger> That's not a lot of money per hour for someone qualified for the job, unfortunately.
21:45 < JayDugger> He's making that now by working an extra shift or so every week where he is now.
21:46 < JayDugger> We might be talking past each other on "temp," though.
21:46 < JayDugger> That would have been hiring a specialist on avionics.
21:47 < JayDugger> Half the reason I didn't apply--I don't know avionics well enough. Other half being moving and 80-hour weeks would have placed unacceptable stress on my marriage.
21:49 < JayDugger> He had this weird idea about wanting to help raise his four sons (8,6,4, and 1/2 YOA)
21:49 < JayDugger> Responsible parents--what next?
21:50 < fenn> cult leader
21:50 < fenn> charismatic*
21:50 < JayDugger> Heh, heh.
21:51 < JayDugger> That's funny three ways: Hubbard, Musk, and yeah--my co-worker's Mormon.
21:53 < abetusk> kanzure, any thoughts on nanoengineer in docker?
21:54 < fenn> perfect, you'll have your own planet in no time
21:54 < genehacker> docker?
21:55 < genehacker> is someone doing drug design?
21:55 < genehacker> oh that sort of docker
21:55 < genehacker> nvm
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