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03:41 < archels> http://turingbirds.com/0bin/paste/yNRvdknC#sXGUp+kBmMxJKWmziOECmPwzwhf8ejsP6g3RP+lIoIM
03:42 < archels> Amsterdam Futurists Society ramping up activity
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05:26 < archels> hm, I have to go through Dutch distributors to sign an NDA with TI. strange
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06:20 < kanzure> obviously a conspiracy
06:21 < archels> commercialising transcranial ultrasound? http://www.thync.com/
06:22 < kanzure> their marketing sucks
06:22 < kanzure> http://www.thync.com/resources/scientific-publications
06:23 < kanzure> "Our U+™ technology was discovered by Thync co-founder and Chief Scientific Officer Dr. W. Jamie Tyler, who has conducted thousands of experiments since 2007 to advance this technology. Dr. Tyler’s publications demonstrated the first use of ultrasound to access specific regions and networks in the brain to enhance sensory perceptions. "
06:24 < kanzure> "We are looking for people in the San Francisco Bay Area to become alpha testers"
06:24 < kanzure> https://thync.youcanbook.me/
06:24 < kanzure> haha what "You will receive compensation of $50 per session"
06:25 < kanzure> "Sessions include: Electrical noninvasive brain stimulation protocols to induce different states of mind"
06:25 < kanzure> electrical...?
06:26 < chris_99> theres a consumer transcranial magnetic stimulation machine i've seen somewhere
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07:54 < catern> why *is* it that you can't buy one of those $1000 genome sequencings
07:54 < catern> i'm sure that would have a large market as a product
07:54 < catern> (in rich people)
07:55 < catern> so why hasn't someone started reselling them to the mass market?
07:55 < catern> (i mean selling the service of sequencing)
07:55 < kanzure> scienceexchange
07:55 < kanzure> .title http://blog.cr4.sh/2015/02/exploiting-uefi-boot-script-table.html
07:55 < yoleaux> My aimful life: Exploiting UEFI boot script table vulnerability
07:56 < catern> kanzure: oh, huh, is there some catch? I thought some people in this channel were saying it was difficult to get one of those full sequencings
07:59 < kanzure> scienceexchange does not necessarily serve consumers but you might be able to sneak in
08:00 < kanzure> also, you can always just contact the vendors directly and see if they will take your samples
08:00 < catern> ah
08:00 < catern> cool
08:03 < catern> someone could probably make some money as a middleman between consumers and scienceexchange
08:06 < kanzure> extra ridiculously high markup?
08:07 < kanzure> hm
08:07 < kanzure> go on
08:11 < catern> you'd operate in SF, go to people and take a sample, then send it off to someone on scienceexchange while pretending to be a legitimate researcher
08:11 < catern> and make $$$ i guess, i don't have the biohackery knowledge to operate such a sca^H^H^Hstartup
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08:25 < kanzure> catern: er, couldn't you learn though? i mean you're just reselling services... you could just call them and ask.
08:27 < catern> true
08:28 < catern> but how would I find my market? hm, lesswrong and other transhumanist hangouts...
08:28 < catern> (meetups in sf that is)
08:28 < kanzure> nah
08:29 < kanzure> one easy way is to organize group buys from schools or whatever
08:30 < catern> from... schools? research schools? but this is direct2consumer. surely schools can just go on scienceexchange
08:31 < ParahSailin> problem with a 10 or 30x average coverage ngs is that coverage will vary from 0 to 1000x by region
08:31 < ParahSailin> thats why it doesnt really make sense to do a personal shotgun sequencing and assembly
08:32 < ParahSailin> if you wanted to fill a hiseq run with your dna, its pretty easy to find company to do library prep and run
08:33 < catern> "pretty easy" if you already know what you're doing
08:33 < kanzure> or you just rant in here until we answer your questions
08:33 < catern> if you're just some consumer getting sequenced for kicks..
08:34 < kanzure> yeah i don't really think the "just for kicks" thing is a good way to find customers
08:34 < catern> maybe not
08:34 < kanzure> btw scienceexchange does more than just sequencing
08:34 < catern> sequencing was just the most obvious thing to resell
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08:45 < archels>  Error: Table '.\scimag\scimag' is marked as crashed and should be repaired
08:45 < archels> so much for contributing to libgen
08:47 < archels> k, libgen.in upload form works
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08:49 < eudoxia> do all libgen mirrors share the same set of books
08:49 < eudoxia> i never looked into how that was synchronized exactly
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08:51 < archels> it's apparently already synced with .org
08:52 < archels> gen.lib.rus.ec and libgen.info are down right now, so can't check
08:53 < kanzure> i'm not convinced that their sync system works
08:58 < kanzure> huh libgen is almost 5 years old now
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09:39 < archels> paperbot: http://turingbirds.com/temp/Robert%20Neimeyer%20-%20Death%20Anxiety%20Handbook%20%28Taylor%20and%20Francis%201994%29.pdf
09:39 < archels> not really h-plus relevant but I spent half an hour scanning this, so just want to disseminate it as widely as I can, heh
09:40 < archels> (actually it was one of the references for my uploading paper, but that's rather philosophical)
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09:47 < kanzure> did paperbot die again
09:48 < kanzure> hmm someone should write a paper about scanning the interwebs for evidence of uploaded brains
09:48 < kanzure> i suspect that an uploaded person would have a certain type of interwebternet fingerprint
09:48 < eudoxia> re: paperbot, this might be useful for seperation of concerns and shit https://github.com/grumble/libgen.js
09:49 < kanzure> and it would be interesting to try to distinguish that from multiple authors acting as the same pseudonym or whatever
09:49 < archels> what about two copies of the same author writing different things?
09:50 < kanzure> what aobut that?
09:50 < kanzure> i was just trying to suggest that naive implementations of such a search would probably just find pr teams or ghostwriter teams
09:50 < kanzure> so some way of distinguishing between ghostwriting teams and an emulation would have to be devised
09:52 < kanzure> also if you were only judging text output then you would miss low-performance emulations
09:52 < archels> hm, what would be identifying characteristics in the academic/text output of an uploaded individual?
09:53 < archels> aren't they (by assumption) equivalent to the same flesh-and-blood person?
09:53 < kanzure> probably nothing, i would imagine the first upload is likely to be a relatively boring individual
09:53 < kanzure> right
09:53 < archels> haha
09:53 < kanzure> but i mean, the difference is unlikely to be /nothing/
09:54 < archels> yeah, but on the spectrum of relatively normal individuals like you and me to batshit insane schiophrenics, they'll probably fit in there somewhere
09:55 < kanzure> if the first few uploads are schizophrenics then that would count as a huge success
09:55 < kanzure> hehe
09:55 < archels> definitely!
09:55 < kanzure> Parallel Schizoid Entity #1
09:56 < archels> relevant http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3615#comic
09:56 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/f6fecafc72af15683e4dca6fedf68df3.pdf
09:57 < kanzure> also another thing is you could do whole-planet infrared imaging to find likely computer clusters that have not yet been plausibly identified (if the operation is not secret)
09:57 < kanzure> haha paperbot got around to it finally
09:57 < kanzure> must have been large file
09:57 < kanzure> oh, scanning
09:57 < kanzure> thisiswhy
09:57 < archels> 23 MB but my webserver is at my dad's with a terrible uplink
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09:59 < archels> I feel that the energetics of WBE is often conveniently elided
10:00 < archels> e.g. in terms of people copying themselves at will
10:00 < kanzure> more time for me to use infrared cameras
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10:00 < kanzure> hey so why did everyone settle on calling it "whole" anyway?
10:01 < archels> uploading sounds too cheesy, WBE comes across as more scientific
10:01 < eudoxia> better than "mind uploading"
10:01 < archels> could go for SIM
10:02 < eudoxia> kanzure: just embrace the propaganda
10:02 < archels> although I would prefer to call that platform-independent minds
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10:04 < archels> oh wait, we should avoid the term minds, I guess
10:04 < archels> platform-independent brains?
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10:06 < kanzure> what is wrong with "brain emulation"
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10:27 < maaku_> archels: what is possibly wrong with the term mind?
10:30 < archels> oh, because of the connotations with dualism
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10:33 < archels> mind is ephemeral and not measureable. we'll just go on to emulate brains while the philosophers discuss the intended definition of mind
10:34 < kanzure> pretty much
10:34 < kanzure> the amount of confusion around that is rather ridiculous
10:34 < kanzure> the time to abandon that term was like 3 minutes after whoever made it
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10:36 < kanzure> "nothing of any importance has ever been written on this subject" -wikipedia
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10:47 < kanzure> .title http://www.jeremymcohen.net/posts/taste/
10:47 < yoleaux> Decomposing the Human Palate with Matrix Factorization – Jeremy Cohen
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10:49 < kanzure> git pushes to github straight to heroku deploys https://blog.heroku.com/archives/2015/2/6/heroku_github_integration
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10:57 < justanotheruser> 09:45 < maaku> it does achieve a dynamic, anonymous membership set signature. but that signature covers very little
10:59 < justanotheruser> maaku_: thoughts on this convo? http://hastebin.com/arexapupeb.vhdl
10:59 < kanzure> application error
10:59 < kanzure> also your conversation was detected as vhdl
11:00 < justanotheruser> yes, hastebin is dumb, you should feel bad for introducing it to me
11:00 < kanzure> not my fault, blame yenatch
11:02 < justanotheruser> http://paste.debian.net/plain/144321
11:02 < justanotheruser> wtf is vhdl
11:02 < justanotheruser> VHDL (VHSIC Hardware Description Language) is a hardware description language used in electronic design automation to describe digital and mixed-signal systems such as field-programmable gate arrays and integrated circuits. VHDL can also be used as a general purpose parallel programming language.
11:02 < kanzure> vhdl is magic
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11:02 < kanzure> you write code and then it spontaneously transforms into hardware that beeps and boops
11:02 < justanotheruser> oh
11:03 < justanotheruser> so you're saying that conversation is now a circuitboard at hastebin headquarters?
11:03 < kanzure> here are some verilog examples:
11:03 < kanzure> https://github.com/asicguy/gplgpu
11:03 < kanzure> https://github.com/brianbennett/fpga_nes
11:03 < kanzure> https://github.com/rnz/verilog-sha256
11:04 < justanotheruser> this is tough to read. I'm guessing this isn't meant to be for complex stuff like sha256? I think c would be better for that
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11:04 < justanotheruser> i_have_no_idea_what_im_doing.jpg
11:05 < kanzure> ah your link loads now
11:05 < justanotheruser> my 2nd one
11:06 < justanotheruser> oh, need to refresh
11:06 < justanotheruser> I'm not a security expert by any means, but hastebin trying to execute code like that sounds like a pretty big vuln
11:10 < kanzure> i never claimed it was executing code
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11:14 < justanotheruser> I didn't claim you did, but when I saw application error I thought that meant it tried executing vhdl
11:16 < nmz787_i> this animation is really cool https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hilbert_Curve_Animation.gif
11:16 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/csoghoian/status/562606634011463680
11:16 < yoleaux> Ex-NSA Director Keith Alexander got up from his seat on the train, and left his laptop behind. Whoever taught him COMSEC is crying right now (@csoghoian)
11:16 < nmz787_i> makes me think of nanoengineer
11:17 < justanotheruser> nmz787_i: does every dot touch every position?
11:18 < nmz787_i> justanotheruser: umm
11:19 < justanotheruser> I don't know anything about this, but I just wasted 2 minutes following a dott
11:19 < nmz787_i> justanotheruser: are you asking if they'd crash into each other during transition?
11:19 < kanzure> i stared at that gif for too long and now i've forgotten the great lakes
11:19 < justanotheruser> I'm asking if there is only one path of dots
11:20 < kanzure> are you asking is the animation looped?
11:20 < justanotheruser> I just realized that there was only one place they entered and exited so my question is now "are there any cycles"
11:23 < maaku_> justanotheruser: "Application Error"
11:24 < maaku_> or sorry i should have kept reading
11:25 < justanotheruser> The blockchain may have a handful of other properties that are marginally useful for a small set of applications
11:29 < maaku_> justanotheruser: not sure what part of the conversation you wanted me to comment on
11:29 < justanotheruser> I'm not sure this one will be that useful since a colored coin is more fungible if the issuer has more people who trust them and if the issuer has many people who trust them, they will be issuing more assets,  and if they're issuing enough assets they can be more profitable by managing and earning fees from their own banking software
11:29 < justanotheruser> maaku_: the fact that the blockchain is useful for something trustful
11:30 < justanotheruser> 09:47 < maaku> and its only what that signature covers, and implications from the validation logic, that you can say is trust-free
11:30 < maaku_> yeah in general the role of accountant (the blockchain) is totally separate from the role of issuer
11:31 < maaku_> why should the issuer be running the 24/7 accounting services?
11:31 < maaku_> there is value in having either trustless (blockchain) or 3rd party accounting
11:32 < maaku_> also, i'm not sure why people seem to assume that an asset which was issued once will always be inflatable
11:33 < justanotheruser> maaku_: if you use the blockchain you only have to trust 1 person, the issuer
11:33 < maaku_> justanotheruser: what do you mean by "trust the issuer"?
11:34 < justanotheruser> maaku_: I mean a gold colored coin requires trust that the issuer will redeem the coin for gold
11:34 < maaku_> ok you mean trust someone that is offering redemption services for an asset to continue offering that service
11:34 < maaku_> that's very application specific
11:34 < maaku_> there's also cases where for example the asset could represent a bet on the outcome of a prediction market
11:35 < maaku_> in which case the asset is automatically converted back into bitcoin upon resolution of the market
11:35 < justanotheruser> Well the blockchain is more useful for that because they can't steal from you (except by colluding with the other party)
11:35 < justanotheruser> s/party/betting party/
11:35 < maaku_> right the block chain is pretty awesome in general for trustless accounting
11:36 < maaku_> you can trust the accounting. maybe thing is worthless, but you can trust the accountant not to steal it out from under you.
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11:49 < kanzure> theorem prover http://isabelle.in.tum.de/
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13:05 < kanzure> hmm.
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13:11 < kanzure> "On Monday, the Montana State Senate unanimously passed a “right to try” bill, which would allow terminally ill patients to ignore federal restrictions on experimental treatments and drugs."
13:13 < kanzure> "The Goldwater Institute, a conservative think tank based in Phoenix, has taken up the cause, writing model right-to-try legislation for states, a version of which was proposed in the Indiana Senate. The institute sees the issue as protecting "the fundamental right of people to try to save their own lives.""
13:13 < kanzure> stalstalk
13:16 < nmz787_i> nice
13:17 < nmz787_i> aren't we all terminally ill, with the disease of death?
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13:30 < kanzure> 13:19 <@gwern> siggraph reminds me of a magician who is always producing rabbits, and never hats
13:36  * maaku_ goes off to render the Stanford bunny in a top hat
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14:27 < fenn> http://cs.stanford.edu/people/karpathy/deepimagesent/ generates free-form natural language descriptions of image regions. Our model leverages datasets of images and their sentence descriptions to learn about the inter-modal correspondences between text and visual data. Our approach is based on a novel combination of Convolutional Neural Networks over image regions, bidirectional Recurrent Neural
14:27 < fenn> Networks over sentences, and a structured objective that aligns the two modalities
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14:51 < nmz787_i> huh, cool! and they put their code online https://github.com/karpathy/neuraltalk
15:00 < nmz787_i> hahahah "I object to doing things that computers can do." - Olin Shivers
15:00 < kanzure> that guy is going to be so angry when he learns his brain isn't that special
15:09 < nmz787_i> http://scsh.net/docu/html/man.html
15:09 < nmz787_i> apparently his campus allows weapons
15:10 < nmz787_i> 'NO ONE WILL READ THIS'
15:11 < nmz787_i> not a professor I'd take a chance pissing off
15:17 < andytoshi> paperbot:
15:17 < paperbot> yes, andytoshi?
15:17 < andytoshi> paperbot: "proof of Gudkov's conjecture" rohlin
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15:18 < paperbot> http://www.maths.ed.ac.uk/~aar/papers/kharviro.pdf
15:28 < andytoshi> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01077517
15:28 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/ca593f47ae10f09cc6a22672d535bd7d.txt
15:28 < kanzure> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2FBF01077517.pdf
15:29 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8a1611f8f45a75e82377bd6879c2b039.txt
15:29 < kanzure> no luck
15:29 < andytoshi> thx we got it
15:30 < andytoshi> (using academic access :/)
15:37 < nmz787_i> http://science.fire.ustc.edu.cn/download/download1/paper/proceedings/ASME2008/data/pdfs/trk-13/IMECE2008-67711.pdf
15:38 < nmz787_i> same puller i've used
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15:51 < maaku_> paperbot: "proof of Goldbach's Conjecture"
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15:54 < maaku_> well one could hope :\
15:55 < kanzure> contributions welcomed https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot
15:55 < kanzure> also, deleting bad code counts as a contribution
15:56 < kanzure> also, untested code counts as bad code
15:57 < maaku_> kanzure: i was joking -- Goldbach's conjecture is a famous unproved theorem in prime number theory
15:57 < kanzure> i am sure there are many papers that mention the (unestablished) proof of goldbach's conjecture
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16:09 < kanzure> i wonder which reagents this uses http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/cheap-smartphone-dongle-diagnoses-hiv-and-syphilis-15-minutes
16:09 < kanzure> and also the blood vacuum
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16:25 < nmz787_i> are conflict-free ICs like fair-trade bananas?
16:25 < kanzure> delicious ?
16:25 < nmz787_i> 'blood CPU'
16:26 < nmz787_i> 'ARM, bro? do you even know about the mining family tragedies you're supporting?'
16:26 < kanzure> s/mining family tragedies/intellectual property tragedies
16:29 < nmz787_i> tungsten, tantalum, tin, gold
16:31 < nmz787_i> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ay3e8nrE4A
16:31 < yoleaux> CES 2014 - Conflict Free Processor Panel - YouTube
16:31 < archels> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-540-36841-0_396
16:31 < kanzure> .title
16:31 < yoleaux> Parameter estimation method of the biological tissue equivalent circuit model for local EIT - Springer
16:31 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e3a9d32b8b28b882768ed5a1aecd8f16.txt
16:31 < archels> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2F978-3-540-36841-0_396.pdf
16:32 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/57e36968f2616ce519d4d1a4ec184ee9.txt
16:34 < nmz787> archels: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Parameter_estimation_method_of_the_biological_tissue_equivalent_circuit_model_for_local_EIT.pdf
16:36 < archels> "A meta-analysis of review studies"
16:36 < archels> nmz787: cheers!
16:43 < fenn> .wa proof of Goldbach's Conjecture
16:43 < yoleaux> fenn: Sorry, no result!
16:43 < fenn> well one can hope
16:43 < fenn> .wik gudkov's conjecture
16:43 < yoleaux> fenn: Sorry, I couldn't find article.
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16:48 < nmz787> u want that fenn?
16:48 < fenn> no
16:48 < fenn> just wondering what it was
16:48 < fenn> something about smooth degree 6 curves, or possibily ellipse packing
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17:04 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.cell.com/chemistry-biology/abstract/S1074-5521%2814%2900457-8
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17:05 < nameng> paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11192-014-1404-6
17:05 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1bc67a4ba28006f63fda9c4ecd6ada47.txt
17:05 < nameng> paperbot http://inderscience.metapress.com/content/w011g76721w1q332/
17:06 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Combined%20Mitigation%20of%20the%20Gastrointestinal%20and%20Hematopoietic%20Acute%20Radiation%20Syndromes%20by%20an%20LPA2%20Receptor-Specific%20Nonlipid%20Agonist.pdf
17:08 < nameng> paperbot http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ip/ihe/2014/00000028/00000002/art00006
17:09 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/677bc809fb729b9f468852d4def81f7c.txt
17:11 < archels> ebowden: http://www.turingbirds.com/temp/1-s2.0-S1074552114004578-main.pdf
17:12 < ebowden> Paperbot wowrked! \:D/
17:12 < ebowden> Oh, thanks, but paperbot already had it.
17:12 < ebowden> Which is uncommon these days, so I appreciate the thought.
17:13 < ebowden> paperbot: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S009286741500063X
17:13 < ebowden> Oh, wrong one.
17:13 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.cell.com/abstract/S0092-8674%2815%2900063-X
17:13 < nameng> glad he's working for someone
17:14 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/HIV-1%20Integration%20Landscape%20during%20Latent%20and%20Active%20Infection.pdf
17:15 < ebowden> Yay! It worked again!
17:15 < ebowden> \:D/
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17:21 < nameng> show off
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17:37 < kanzure> “There are myths and pseudo-science all over the place. I might be quite wrong, maybe they do know all this … but I don’t think I’m wrong, you see I have the advantage of having found out how difficult it is to really know something. How careful you have to be about checking the experiments, how easy it is to make mistakes and fool yourself. I know what it means to know something. And therefore, I see how they get their ...
17:37 < kanzure> ... information and I can’t believe that they know it. They haven’t done the work necessary, they haven’t done the checks necessary, they haven’t taken the care necessary. I have a great suspicion that they don’t know and that they’re intimidating people.”
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17:44 < ebowden_> Is that Feynman talking about social "science"?
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17:49 < kanzure> he is talking about people
17:49 < nameng> paperbot http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166497204002196
17:49 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20Initiatives%20to%20promote%20commercialization%20of%20university%20knowledge%0A%20.pdf
17:55 < nameng> paperbot http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166497204002196
17:56 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20Initiatives%20to%20promote%20commercialization%20of%20university%20knowledge%0A%20.pdf
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18:34 < delinquentme> http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/06/a-rare-look-inside-a-massive-bitcoin-mine/?ncid=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29&utm_content=FaceBook
18:34 < yoleaux> 2 Feb 2015 07:17Z <nmz787> delinquentme: $1.21 RTC with per-day +- ~0.5second accuracy http://www.ebay.com/itm/IIC-Precision-RTC-Real-Time-Clock-Memory-Module-For-Arduino-DS3231-AT24C32-/251401815796?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a88b746f4
18:34 < yoleaux> 2 Feb 2015 07:23Z <nmz787> delinquentme: this might also be interesting, not aware of an good-for-time arduino-receiver yet though (maybe any GPS module?) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_clock
18:42 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/24b6812961745221288c03b8091b6dad.txt
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21:40 < kanzure> accepting bitcoin donations now http://sens.org/donate
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23:26 < JayDugger> Good evening.
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