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06:02 < ebowden> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1931312815000219
06:02 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20The%20Dynamics%20of%20the%20Human%20Infant%20Gut%20Microbiome%20in%20Development%20and%20in%20Progression%20toward%20Type%201%20Diabetes%0A%20.txt
06:25 < kanzure> you guys are boring
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06:52 < kanzure> .title http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/rsi/86/1
06:52 < yoleaux> Review of Scientific Instruments - Volume 86 Number 1
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06:53 < kanzure> .title http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/rsi/86/1/10.1063/1.4904867
06:53 < yoleaux> A compact 100 kV high voltage glycol capacitor
06:53 < kanzure> "A high voltage capacitor is described in this paper. The capacitor uses glycerol as energy storage medium, has a large capacitance close to 1 nF, can hold off voltages of up to 100 kV for μs charging time. Allowing for low inductance, the capacitor electrode is designed as coaxial structure, which is different from the common structure of the ceramic capacitor. With a steady capacitance at different frequencies and a high hold-off ...
06:53 < kanzure> ... voltage of up to 100 kV, the glycol capacitor design provides a potential substitute for the ceramic capacitors in pulse-forming network modulator to generate high voltage pulses with a width longer than 100 ns."
06:53 < kanzure> superkuh: 100 kV capacitor above
07:11 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/v12/n8/abs/nmat3645.html
07:12 < kanzure> .title
07:12 < yoleaux> Cinnamate-based DNA photolithography : Nature Materials : Nature Publishing Group
07:12 < paperbot> http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnmat3645
07:12 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nmat/journal/v12/n8/pdf/nmat3645.pdf
07:12 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7f1d1c94d17f24bebb90e4687c9e6283.pdf
07:13 < kanzure> "Here, we show that the substitution of a cinnamate group for a pair of complementary bases provides an efficient, addressable, ultraviolet light-based method to bond complementary DNA covalently. To show the potential of this approach, we wrote micrometre-scale patterns on a surface using ultraviolet light and demonstrated the reversible attachment of conjugated DNA and DNA-coated colloids. Our strategy enables both functional DNA ...
07:13 < kanzure> ... photolithography and multistep, specific binding in self-assembly processes."
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07:42 < kanzure> .title http://www.pnas.org/content/108/28/11338.short
07:42 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.pnas.org/content/108/28/11338.short
07:42 < yoleaux> Biocompatible artificial DNA linker that is read through by DNA polymerases and is functional in Escherichia coli
07:43 < paperbot> http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1073%2Fpnas.1101519108
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08:54 < kanzure> .wik pulsar timing array
08:54 < yoleaux> "A pulsar timing array is a set of pulsars which is analyzed to search for correlated signatures in the pulse arrival times. There are many applications for pulsar timing arrays. The most well known is to use an array of millisecond pulsars to detect and analyse gravitational waves." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsar_timing_array
08:54 < kanzure> "The gravitational waves cause the time of arrival of the pulses to vary by a few tens of nanoseconds over their wavelength (so, for a frequency of 3 x 10 −8 Hz, one cycle per year, you would find that pulses arrive 20 ns early in July and 20 ns late in January). This is an extremely delicate experiment, although millisecond pulsars are stable enough clocks that the time of arrival of the pulses can be predicted to the required ...
08:54 < kanzure> ... accuracy; the experiments use collections of 20 to 50 pulsars to account for dispersion effects in the atmosphere and in the space between us and the pulsar. It is necessary to monitor each pulsar roughly once a week; a higher cadence of observation would allow the detection of higher-frequency gravitational waves, but it is unclear whether there would be loud enough astrophysical sources at such frequencies."
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09:30 < kanzure> http://memsfoundry.wikia.com/wiki/MEMS_Foundry_Engagement_Guide_Wiki
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11:11 < kanzure> "internet archive should sell long-term family photo storage as a way to fund their other work"
11:27 < maaku> they should sell backups, period
11:27 < maaku> i would totally trust them with my encrypted backups
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11:55 < kanzure> "the 'nixos' thing is about the same kind, and degree, of contribution to culture as the soviet dogs with extra heads sewn on. with the difference that the latter still have the former beat in the purpose they're really fit for - chimeras to scare small children with"
11:55 < kanzure> soviet dogs with extra heads was great science
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12:12 < heath> nice article for "What every CFO should know about equipment financing"
12:12 < heath> s/for//
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13:18 < jrayhawk> NixOS?
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13:32 < maaku> hi Josh|NH4H
13:33 < maaku> kanzure: Josh|NH4H is interested in KSRM for space exploration
13:33 < maaku> i sent him over here
13:33 < Josh|NH4H> Hey maaku
13:34 < maaku> he's also applying for positions at spacex i believe
13:36 < Josh|NH4H> Yep
13:37 < Josh|NH4H> I'm graduating as a mechanical engineer in may
13:37 < heath> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djy83O0nfds --oculus rift game
13:37 < yoleaux> heath: Sorry, that command (.title) crashed.
13:37 < maaku> mech? good. you were chemistry last time I checked in
13:37 < maaku> chem is fun, but mech is more useful :P
13:38 < maaku> looks like kanzure is not around, but you'll find some of the stuff he and fenn and others are working on here: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/
13:39 < maaku> one of which is 'apt-get for hardware' which is the self-replicating machine connection
13:39 < heath> neat, they are playing the music from interstellar
13:39 < heath> pretty distinct music
13:39 < maaku> i still need to see that movie
13:40 < maaku> they stopped playin in imax around here :(
13:42 < Josh|NH4H> I like chem too
13:42 < Josh|NH4H> But mechanical engineering is aerospace
13:42 < Josh|NH4H> Can't really look at stuff now, I'm technically at work
13:45 < Josh|NH4H> I need to go but I'll be back
13:48 < heath> oddly enough i wasn't paying attention to the conversation when i pasted that link, but it is a space exploration game, but not with ksrm
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13:51 < maaku> Josh is the most capable up and coming guy I know from the newspace area, other than Musk of course.
13:51 < maaku> I just wish I could get him more interested in transhumanist tech.
13:52 < maaku> He wants to build cities on Mars. But there's plenty of time to do that _after_ solving ageing.
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14:31 < jrayhawk> http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1679/3335/original.jpg
14:32 < jrayhawk> what's the source on this image
14:32 < jrayhawk> I can spot the krebs cycle, at least
14:40 < justanotheruser> jrayhawk: get better google-fu http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~turk/bio_sim/articles/metabolic_pathways.png
14:40 < jrayhawk> ah, excellent
14:43 < jrayhawk> hmm. this scan is kinda busted. makes me sad.
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15:13 < fenn> looks like a shitty pieced together screenshot of an old version of http://www.kegg.jp/kegg/atlas/
15:18 < maaku> I made the mistake of chatting on #lesswrong again
15:19 < maaku> Came away only frustrated that so many otherwise seemingly smart people are brainwashed by the cult :\
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15:38 < kanzure> jupiter ascending was..... weird.
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15:52 < kanzure> maaku: i thought the general consensus was that you would have to build cities underground on mars?
15:52 < kanzure> well i guess he didn't specify that
15:53 < maaku> you read the mars trilogy by kim stanley robinson?
15:53 < kanzure> nope
15:53 < maaku> ok well it's very good realistic sci fi
15:53 < maaku> underground works best in the near term
15:53 < kanzure> i was spoiled rotten by science fiction by my dad by the time i was twelve or something, so i've given up on almost everything except greg egan but only sometimes is he tolerable
15:54 < maaku> longer term, domed craters or canyons are a very good option
15:54 < maaku> KSR's mars trilogy is worth trying
15:54 < maaku> it's a ~500 year epic of mars colonization
15:55 < kanzure> i doubt i will be able to convince anyone that dwelling in gravity wells is a great idea, so i have compromised by just imagining and hoping that whoever designs martian equipment is rational enough to work with me on non-martian equipment, hopefully.....
15:55 < kanzure> (because the differences between standards needed for martian equipment and non-martian equipment should be quite small... such as for interlocking.)
15:55 < maaku> on the tech side everything he describes is real -- the kind of things nasa has speculative papers analyzing
15:55 < kanzure> whoops i mean convince anyone that dwelling in gravity wells is a *bad* idea
15:55 < kanzure> i forgot my negation
15:56 < maaku> yeah well nearly all science fiction except egan and perhaps a few others is bunk in that regard
15:57 < kanzure> :/
15:57 < maaku> the asteroid belt is where the action will be, but mars makes a better story
15:57 < kanzure> i realized a while ago that i'll probably have to write my own damn science fiction since nobody else seems to be capable, but yet another thing on the todo list
15:57 < maaku> KSR does include an end-to-ageing and spends significant time going into the ramifications that has on society... but sadly no mention of transcending biology
15:58 < kanzure> FTL travel is such a cheat... there's a lot of story opportunity in something realistic.
15:59 < kanzure> (er, i'm ranting about FTL because jupiter ascending had FTL. and lots of .. uh.. other stuff.. er)
15:59 < maaku> haha i have my own dystopian science fiction about a dyibio guy that takes over the first nanofactory and transcends himself ...
16:00 < kanzure> what's dystopian about that?
16:00 < maaku> ... becoming godlike but pulling each of his motivations out as separate individuals, which then fight each for control with much of humanity lost in the process
16:00 < kanzure> that requires me to think he's an idiot though
16:00 < maaku> yes he is
16:01 < maaku> i find flawed characters more interesting in fiction
16:01 < kanzure> so the only dystopian aspect there is that you gave me a lousy story
16:01 < maaku> they annoy me in reality
16:01 < kanzure> but
16:01 < maaku> i guess we have different tastes :\
16:02 < kanzure> it requires me an unfathomable leap- that there exists someone who would truly believe that motivations are separable like that
16:02 < kanzure> or that there can exist such a person
16:02 < maaku> oh no no, it's not something he does on purpose
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16:03 < kanzure> hm.
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16:03 < kanzure> well anyway, re: humanity lost in the process, i wouldn't cry too much if not much is left after a billion years, archival is hard yo
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16:03 < maaku> it's an artifact of the uploading + self-modification process he underwent, that agents are spun out and then disentangle themselves from the hive-mind he grows into being
16:04 < maaku> but anyway that's a strange position. you wouldn't care much for losing much of humanity?
16:05 < kanzure> well i mean, i have a strong archivist streak in myself and i am obsessive about archival, but so far i haven't demonstrated any ability to store things for even 100 years
16:05 < kanzure> and there's massive amounts of data that we're losing every day (think of everything we're not recording)
16:05 < maaku> i hope you're not thinking of archiving human beings
16:05 < maaku> "i am not my archive"
16:05 < kanzure> "nobody cares, get in line"
16:06 < maaku> hah, I care
16:06  * maaku goes of to bomb your archival facility
16:06 < kanzure> haha you must not think that high of me, surely i have redundant backup facilities
16:07 < kanzure> but yeah, if i was to take a copy of you and you were to complain that it wasn't you, i don't think i would care. the backup seems more important.
16:09 < kanzure> "neither is your current instance, now get into the oven"
16:09 < kanzure> (i don't know why there's an oven)
16:12 < kanzure> a lunatic (AlonzoTG) used to come around here who was absolutely terrified that i was going to copy his brain in his sleep and then torture a billion of his emulations for eternity
16:12 < kanzure> anyway i kicked him out but he's still in #bitcoin
16:21 < maaku> kanzure: it's people who think that personal identity is data, not instances of data  that scare me
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16:22 < maaku> i don't give a flying fuck whether you torture a billion of my emulations. i do care whether you destroy me after creating the backup
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16:29 < kanzure> sure, sure
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16:33  * fenn points to the "no philosophy" sign
16:34 < kanzure> someone unplugged that sign
16:34 < fenn> philosophy unplugged: acoustic jam session
16:35 < eudoxia> ugh why would you use a sign that needs continuous power
16:35 < eudoxia> unless it's dark in cyberspace?
16:35 < fenn> everything needs power to exist in cyberspace
16:35 < fenn> and connectivity
16:35 < fenn> but we are rapidly hurtling toward a wireless world so..
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16:38 < kanzure> because neon signs have twice the meaning
16:40 < kanzure> "I feel like Kunis was a great pick for every single part of this movie that wasn't space, aliens, royalty, genes, warfare, spaceships and pretty much the reasons you'd want to see the movie. So basically she played a convincing second generation Russian immigrant female. Which isn't a stretch for her. Weird movie."
16:47 < kanzure> also the elephant pilot
17:07 < kanzure> there should be a review site that only accepts reviews from people who watched the movie stoned
17:08 < maaku> i support this idea
17:10 < kanzure> "The DYNASTY / DALLAS / FALCON CREST and of course DUNE level family-related drama involving mothers, and the three sibling heirs. You're my mother. You're not my mother. OK ---- they are trying to appeal to every mainstream viewer, who either does, or does not, have a mother. I get it."
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19:18 < JayDugger> https://domains.google.com/registrar?s=letsgethighmovies returns plenty of options for such a review site.
19:29 < kanzure> nah that's not how you play the name game.... how about: halfbakedmovies topbaked bakedlabs projectbaked.com starbaked maxbaked studiobaked bakecast metabake spacebake.com wayhighfilms labhigh specialhigh.com highplanner etc..
19:30 < kanzure> on an unrelated note, these http://www.leandomainsearch.com/search?q=labs
19:40 < JayDugger> I yield to the superior humor.
19:40 < kanzure> i'm surprised those domains aren't taken
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