--- Log opened Wed Feb 11 00:00:51 2015 00:03 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 00:04 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:19 < bci> should be gene_hackman 00:19 * bci taps mic 00:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:44 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:50 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:15 -!- dip [uid15387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqughklmsclhthys] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:16 -!- dip [uid15387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqughklmsclhthys] has quit [Changing host] 01:16 -!- dip [uid15387@unaffiliated/dip] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:16 -!- dip [uid15387@unaffiliated/dip] has quit [Changing host] 01:16 -!- dip [uid15387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqughklmsclhthys] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:59 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:09 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:19 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:24 -!- yoleaux [~yoleaux@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:25 -!- dpk [~dpk@xn--ht-1ia18f.nonceword.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:29 -!- dip [uid15387@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mqughklmsclhthys] has quit [] 02:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 02:32 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:06 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmcjpwrhksmrtklm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:14 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:21 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:29 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:52 < kanzure> win 2 03:52 < kanzure> blah 03:52 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9031034 03:52 < yoleaux> Show HN: The Autoprotocol Language Standard for Biology | Hacker News 03:52 < kanzure> http://autoprotocol.org/ 03:53 < kanzure> "Autoprotocol is a language for specifying experimental protocols for biological research in way that is precise, unambiguous, and understandable by both humans and computers. Autoprotocol was originally developed at Transcriptic as a way to define experiments that could be run over the internet on remote robotic automation, with the aim of moving research into the "cloud"." 03:53 < kanzure> https://github.com/autoprotocol/autoprotocol-core 03:53 < kanzure> https://github.com/autoprotocol/autoprotocol-python 03:53 < kanzure> http://autoprotocol-python.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ 03:54 < kanzure> http://autoprotocol.org/community/ 03:54 < kanzure> http://autoprotocol.org/specification/ 04:02 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 04:02 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:03 < kanzure> http://breakingmalware.com/vulnerabilities/one-bit-rule-bypassing-windows-10-protections-using-single-bit/ 04:06 < kanzure> "At Transcriptic we perform experiments using what we call a workcell - a set of devices like liquid handlers (automated pipettors), PCR machines, and plate readers all linked together via a common interface and a robotic arm that moves containers between devices. That interface understands Autoprotocol and executes the instructions accordingly. Autoprotocol itself was designed to be an agreed upon standard for different types of ... 04:06 < kanzure> ... laboratory automation (not just ours) to execute protocols. An example of an experiment someone could run through our cloud laboratory interface would be to monitor the growth rate of bacteria expressing different genes. This would be done using a protocol that contains some pipetting steps to dilute the bacteria and then alternates between incubating the plate at 37 degrees and reading OD600 of its wells using a plate reader at a ... 04:06 < kanzure> ... specified interval for a certain number of repetitions." 04:39 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 04:39 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:33 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:35 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:41 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:54 < kanzure> ycombinator applications are open again http://www.ycombinator.com/apply/#S2015 05:54 < kanzure> i think the vast majority of these are topics that hplusroadmappers could dominate http://www.ycombinator.com/rfs/ 05:54 < kanzure> so you should apply 05:59 < ParahSailin> transcriptic is too expensive to do any general protocols on 06:01 < kanzure> probably 06:01 < ParahSailin> they should have priced stuff to get people using it 06:01 < kanzure> i think they started with molecular cloning 06:01 < kanzure> maaku was there at the time so we can just pester him i think 06:02 < kanzure> i wonder what transcriptic's response to "unlimited cheap labor (undergrads/grad students)" is 06:02 < ParahSailin> yeah but when i looked there the other day i saw that you can put in custom protocols and it gave quotes based on time spent 06:02 < ParahSailin> that was all new 06:02 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:02 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Client Quit] 06:02 < kanzure> i could definitely see a strong segment using transcriptic related to those virtual drug companies or whatever... e.g. the types with suits and no labs/equipment just lots of outsourcing. 06:03 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:03 -!- justanotheruser is now known as justan 06:03 -!- justan is now known as justanotheruser 06:06 < ParahSailin> why dont you apply to yc 06:06 < kanzure> ah i thought i told you 06:06 < kanzure> pm 06:07 < kanzure> on the other hand, getting 5% weekly growth is not entirely obvious for most of those segments 06:17 < kanzure> someone should do a botique designer baby firm that manages the gene selection process for up-and-coming parents, e.g. a few years in advance 06:18 < kanzure> (customers would be paying for the long-term trait planning) 06:55 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57 -!- marciogm [~marciogm@unaffiliated/marciogm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:05 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 07:06 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=42448bd8 Bryan Bishop: devcore - gavin andresen talk >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/gavinandresen/ 07:09 < JayDugger> Hollywood 2.0 on the Request for Startup list? 07:13 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=6e50a00d Bryan Bishop: include link >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/gavinandresen/ 07:17 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@179.26.152.215] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:17 < kanzure> hello eudoxia 07:17 < eudoxia> hi kanzure 07:25 < eudoxia> kanzure: what's up with h+ 07:26 < eudoxia> s/with/in 07:26 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:28 < heath> kanzure: you're in boston right now? 07:28 < heath> oh, it's being livestreamed 07:30 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=507cd18c Bryan Bishop: some words from circle inc >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/jeremy-allaire-circle/ 07:30 < heath> good stuff, thank you for this 07:30 < kanzure> i am not in boston 07:33 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:37 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=c7366380 Bryan Bishop: more words from circle inc >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/jeremy-allaire-circle/ 07:41 -!- marciogm [~marciogm@unaffiliated/marciogm] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=c1b327b0 Bryan Bishop: even more circle words... >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/jeremy-allaire-circle/ 07:59 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=7dcfe2ed Bryan Bishop: more circle things >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/jeremy-allaire-circle/ 08:07 -!- PeteMeadows [~i@host86-164-21-86.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:25 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=1536e23e Bryan Bishop: some legal issues >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/james-gatto-marco-santori-bitcoin-law-for-developers/ 08:34 < kanzure> .title https://www.behance.net/gallery/22536831/ROBOTIC-EXTRUSION%286-Axis-KUKAABS-3D-Printing%29 08:35 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that command (.title) took too long to process. 08:40 < kanzure> fair enough 08:42 -!- PeteMeadows [~i@host86-164-21-86.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:45 < ParahSailin> hrt in trans people frequently changes sexual orientation; is sexual orientation purely a result of hormonal balance and sensitivity of receptors in brain? 08:49 < archels> 'is the brain involved in computation?' 08:51 < ParahSailin> if that sounded tautological, i meant specifically the gonadal hormones 08:52 < kanzure> most trans people are humanphiles and are annoyingly inconsistent in their beliefs ("the other gender sucks less, right?") 08:53 < kanzure> insert various rants here 08:58 < archels> ParahSailin: there is plenty of receptor expression in the hypothalamus and other lower areas, of course 08:58 < archels> sexual dimorphism of the hypothalamus comes to mind 08:59 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:45 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=67ef1eba Bryan Bishop: more law things >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/james-gatto-marco-santori-bitcoin-law-for-developers/ 09:45 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=509ee379 Bryan Bishop: gavin session >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/bitcoin-devcore-2015/research-and-development-goals/ 10:06 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:23 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@8-92.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:28 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pmcjpwrhksmrtklm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:32 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:46 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@8-92.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:48 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:55 -!- justanot1eruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:00 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-bmjtbckmftoinkwv] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:05 < nmz787_i> anyone ever see a clone of openBCI yet? 11:05 < nmz787_i> I searched a bit last night and didn't find anything immediately on ebay/aliexpress/google 11:05 < kanzure> there's the foc.us thing 11:05 < kanzure> dunno if it's a clone though 11:05 < nmz787_i> their price of $450 is pretty steep though it seems for the hardware, and they do offer (kicad I think ) board/schematics 11:05 < kanzure> it's not, nevermind 11:06 < kanzure> dunno maybe there's some openeeg boards flying around on alinope 11:06 < nmz787_i> from this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_consumer_brain%E2%80%93computer_interfaces 11:06 < nmz787_i> it seems like HiBrain is the best other than openBCI 11:06 < nmz787_i> (currently) 11:06 < nmz787_i> I wonder how long it would take seeedstudio to start making a product if someone sent them that design 11:08 < nmz787_i> https://github.com/OpenBCI/Docs/blob/master/hardware/01-OpenBCI_Hardware.md 11:13 < nmz787_i> i was trying to figure out what kind of sensing technique and sample rate it would take to capture my mental audio/self-talk 11:14 < nmz787_i> I've heard that frequency in brains are relatively slow, so to capture something like audio it seems there would have to be a ton of parallel data channels which had low bandwidth but slight phase offset or something 11:14 < nmz787_i> maybe frequency down-conversion too on the higher freq stuff 11:16 < nmz787_i> so I think that would mean the sampling freq could be low, but the parallel data channels would be on top of each other in the data stream, requiring some sort of tomography or phase array sensor technique to resolve the individual channels 11:16 < nmz787_i> (if you were sensing with an antenna/eeg) 11:38 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-89-181-162.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:39 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-162-49-190.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:09 < justanot1eruser> kanzure: do you think there is an optimal ratio of amphetamine to dextroamphetamine in adderall for each individual? Or do you think it doesn't improve much beyond 50/50 12:09 < kanzure> no idea, sorry 12:10 < kanzure> just dextroamphetamine and just amphetamine might be fine 12:12 < justanot1eruser> too bad. Would be cool if pharma companies sold different ratios and you could find optimums. 12:12 < kanzure> hmm http://blog.ycombinator.com/yc-open-source-sales-agreement 12:12 < kanzure> eventual comments at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9035256 12:17 -!- Boscop [me@unaffiliated/boscop] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:18 -!- Boscop_ [me@46.246.87.48] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:28 < kanzure> in conclusion, always check the manufacturer 12:31 < nmz787_i> justanot1eruser: I think the mix is racemic, meaning it's just the ratio that the reacton spews out... not really something they tuned for 12:31 < nmz787_i> justanot1eruser: presumably since they can pull out the dextro, they also have the levo somewhere for something 12:32 < justanot1eruser> nmz787_i: so 50% is probably 50% by molarity? 12:32 < nmz787_i> probably 12:32 < justanot1eruser> Thats a smarter reason than I assumed.. 12:33 < nmz787_i> i guess molarity is in liquids though, so might not make perfect sense since tablets are solid 12:45 -!- justanot1eruser is now known as justanotheruser 12:49 < kanzure> there's also issues with the delivery mechanism 12:49 < kanzure> shire still has a patent on the good one 12:50 < ParahSailin> shire patented insufflation?! 12:52 < ParahSailin> invade hobbiton 12:54 < nmz787_i> the Barr time-release balls seem magical in how long they've kept some dex good 12:54 < ParahSailin> its a fairly stable molecule 12:55 -!- the8thbit|work [~8bit@66.186.100.194] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56 -!- the8thbit|work [~8bit@66.186.100.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:06 < kanzure> barr seems to work for me. shire works. teva doesn't. 13:09 < kanzure> crap now you guys know a useful delivery mechanism for my receptors 13:13 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oibfyjwbhiutzaew] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:31 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-109-91-122-252.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:39 -!- phryk_ [~phryk@ip-109-91-122-252.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:46 < justanotheruser> does insufflation even work? 13:46 < justanotheruser> I mean, obviously it goes down your throat... 13:47 < kanzure> can you say that again but in caps? 13:49 -!- phryk_ [~phryk@ip-109-91-122-252.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-109-91-122-252.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:56 < archels> nmz787_i: got a link for HiBrain? is it open source? 14:01 < nmz787_i> archels: the wiki page directs to http://www.hyperneuro.com/ 14:02 < archels> yeah that's what I got 14:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:03 < nmz787_i> 64-channel eeg from openeeg mailing list http://www.eeg64.com/?p=47 14:04 < nmz787_i> .title 14:04 < yoleaux> nmz787_i: Sorry, that command (.title) crashed. 14:04 < nmz787_i> "EEG64 Cost – Quotes" 14:16 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:19 < archels> hmm, looks a bit inchoate 14:19 < archels> the OpenEEG project is pretty dead afaik--but one could also say it's mature 14:21 < nmz787_i> well openBCI or that eeg64 are using all-in-one ICs pretty much 14:22 < nmz787_i> so there shouldn't be too much to do outside software and simple power supply type PCB stuff 14:23 < archels> that's not necessarily simple on an ultra-low-noise design 14:24 < archels> also not seeing any galvanic isolation 14:24 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:25 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@179.26.152.215] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:26 < archels> hmm, apparently someone at a local lab broke a 200 ul pipette by pipetting 6 ul with it 14:26 < archels> how does that work? 14:26 < archels> "General rule, don’t go below 10 % of the maximum volume!" 14:29 < nmz787_i> archels: they're just pistons in a cylinder with a screw to adjust the displacement 14:29 < nmz787_i> so setting it too small probably just put more stress on the plunger seal or something 14:30 < nmz787_i> or it messed up the spring 14:34 < ParahSailin> dead volume 14:36 < archels> wouldn't there have been more dead volume, not less? 14:41 < archels> someone reply-alled asking for clarification, but he's either being stonewalled or told off through private channels 14:41 < nmz787_i> on the pipet? 14:41 < nmz787_i> that seems like a reasonable thing to ask for clarificationon 14:41 < nmz787_i> clarification on 14:44 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 < justanotheruser> paperbot http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/npr.4040030405/abstract 15:48 < fenn> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011224065801134 15:48 < kanzure> .title 15:48 < yoleaux> Functional survival of kidneys subjected to extracorporeal freezing and reimplantation 15:48 < kanzure> hm 15:48 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20Functional%20survival%20of%20kidneys%20subjected%20to%20extracorporeal%20freezing%20and%20reimplantation%0A%20.txt 15:48 < kanzure> womp womp 15:48 < justanotheruser> ;_; 15:49 < kanzure> paperbot: http://acw.sciverse.com/SSOCore/update?acw=5995d4102fa7b41989f39a7-19d540c783c2acf2%7C%24%7CmCsSeOz6L9xAK5sYMadOfDnCxXeIt%2B%2Fj8swmlb0YWXRDvzMSGPHrw9dP22R9nvN2QOcrZLYUmWbyrehM3VuTo8iN9hCgJnzG&utt=6995d4102fa7b41989f39a7-19d540c783c2acf2 15:49 < justanotheruser> kanzure: what is the best pdf host 15:49 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/54ada348e51a30613f92eb641ec58b0e.txt 15:50 < kanzure> "The article you are trying to access is not included" 15:52 < kanzure> fenn: those results were discussed in http://imsear.li.mahidol.ac.th/bitstream/123456789/134785/1/jiafm2007v29i3p10.pdf 15:52 < kanzure> .. briefly.. 15:52 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3fe0ebcd79d48eac9bde9e1938d97a6b.txt 15:52 < kanzure> hehe "Whole organ preservation: I. A technique for in vivo freezing canine intestine using intraarterial helium and ambient nitrogen" 15:53 < kanzure> "Survival of canine kidneys after treatment with dimethyl-sulfoxide, freezing at− 80° C, and thawing by microwave illumination" 15:53 < kanzure> "Factors involved in successful freezing of kidneys for transplantation. Preliminary experimental observations" 16:01 < fenn> yes i read the logs to find the article link, unfurtunutely no can read 16:02 < fenn> the actual abstract says 2/14 dogs survived, not 4/37 (although 9/14 had "some" function) 16:12 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/FUNCTIONAL_SURVIVAL_OF_KIDNEYS_SUBJECTED_TO_EXTRACORPOREAL_FREEZING_AND_REIMPLANTATION.pdf 16:13 < fenn> kewl 16:18 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 16:19 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:21 < nmz787_i> funded in 25 minutes https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1186001332/pyimagesearch-gurus-become-a-computer-vision-openc 16:22 < nmz787_i> "Out of the box IPython Notebooks were never designed to run in a (secure) multi-user environment. And unfortunately, current approaches to creating mutli-user IPython Notebook environments are glued together using shell scripts and bubblegum. Instead of building my own mutli-user IPython Notebook management system, I am currently looking into two companies that provide this service: Wakari and Sage Math Cloud. Some of the funds 16:22 < nmz787_i> from this Kickstarter will go into licensing this software." 16:23 < nmz787_i> I am confused by his statement, isn't this free? https://github.com/sagemath/cloud 16:38 -!- phryk [~phryk@ip-109-91-122-252.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:12 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:24 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-bmjtbckmftoinkwv] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:31 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:31 < nsh> asking for donations so you can license software is particularly distasteful 17:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@147.69.50.2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16 < nmz787> nsh: agreed 18:16 < nmz787> especially when they say it's free for commercial too https://github.com/sagemath/cloud/wiki/FAQ#com 18:18 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oibfyjwbhiutzaew] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:27 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:43 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:47 -!- juri__ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:51 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2602:306:35fa:d500:6dbb:f93b:256c:f10c] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:52 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: juri_, the8thbit|work, helleshin 18:58 -!- Netsplit over, joins: the8thbit|work 19:04 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2602:306:35fa:d500:9c3e:e529:8ee3:5a16] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:14 < nsh> mm 19:15 < JayDugger> Good evening, everyone. 20:24 -!- abetusk [~abe@209-6-202-176.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:49 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:34 -!- sheena1 [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12 -!- dvorkbjel [~viskestel@li607-220.members.linode.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:38 -!- dvorkbjel [~viskestel@li607-220.members.linode.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Thu Feb 12 00:00:52 2015