--- Log opened Fri Feb 13 00:00:53 2015 00:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:51 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@134.134.137.73] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:58 < ebowden> paperbot: http://dev.biologists.org/content/142/4/681 01:58 < paperbot> http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1242%2Fdev.114850 01:59 < ebowden> Damn. Doesn't work. 02:35 < archels> The Company of Biologists is a not-for-profit publisher and UK charity. Established in 1925, The Company aims to promote research and study across all branches of biology. 02:35 < archels> interesting 02:35 < archels> ebowden: want? 02:35 < ebowden> \:D/ yes! 02:35 < ebowden> Thanks/ :D 02:35 < ebowden> Thanks. :D 02:36 < archels> http://turingbirds.com/temp/Development-2015-Wu-681-91.pdf 03:05 < ebowden> \:D/ 03:05 < ebowden> Thanks archels. 03:12 < archels> you're welcome 03:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:49 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:50 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:28 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:31 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:42 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:22 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:27 < kanzure> does anyone want these? extropians.org extropians.com 05:31 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:42 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:43 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:46 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone. 06:47 < JayDugger> I don't have any use for those domains, no. 06:47 < kanzure> hmh 06:47 < kanzure> +p 06:48 < JayDugger> I don't have any *good* use for those domains, rather. 06:53 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:58 < heath> who is https://github.com/technologiclee 06:58 < heath> i figure he's in here 06:59 < heath> by who is i mean, what is his irc nick 07:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:15 < kanzure> lee nelson 07:15 < kanzure> he goes by the name technologiclee 07:16 < kanzure> he's that guy with more steel in his leg than there is in the empire state building 07:25 -!- weles [~mariusz@wsip-72-215-50-243.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:34 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:54 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:57 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:59 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dubqfmmjrshsiebv] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:12 < kanzure> "You can find this authoritative ignorance of unknowns in more recent writings too. It's interesting to read a pre-1960s geology book - before continental drift was proven - and see how they explain continent formation. They'll often present some totally wrong theory without any trace of doubt. Another example is pre-1960s biology books that talk about DNA and give it a bogus role. To be clear, I'm not criticizing these books for not ... 09:12 < kanzure> ... having the answers, or even for being wrong. It's being confidently, authoritatively wrong that is concerning. It also makes me wonder how much of what we read now is also authoritatively wrong. (I have my suspicious about cosmology.) A counterexample is the book "Molecular Biology of the Cell", which is good about explicitly pointing out what is unknown rather than papering over it." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9044654 09:33 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:53 -!- nmz787_i [~nmccorkx@192.55.54.40] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:05 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-gasmibfepivdrxin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:07 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- nmz787_i [nmccorkx@nat/intel/x-gasmibfepivdrxin] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:22 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:23 < maaku_> kanzure: you getting rid of those domains? 10:24 < maaku_> i mean i'd take them if you were just going to let them expire, but i have no current plans for them 10:25 -!- maaku_ is now known as maaku 10:28 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:28 < kanzure> they will expire in a month or something 10:35 < nmz787_i1> maybe this TOF sensor for the pipette touching thing? 10:35 < nmz787_i1> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12784?utm_source=SparkFun+Customer+Newsletter&utm_campaign=a6b7001c6c-RegCustomerNews2-13&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fa5287abaf-a6b7001c6c-62570881 11:13 < chris_99> did you see the $99 ToF camera 11:13 < chris_99> from intel 11:19 < nmz787_i1> umm, probably 11:20 < nmz787_i1> realsense? 11:20 < nmz787_i1> I'm pretty sure my phone has a TOF camera... but it doesn't have any interesting software :/ 11:21 < chris_99> realsense yeah 11:22 < chris_99> 1mm resolution 11:22 < chris_99> interesting 11:23 < chris_99> i think the intel ones got among the best res for the price afaik 11:38 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dubqfmmjrshsiebv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:29 < nmz787_i1> huh, oculus rift 2 has half-1080 res per-eye... seems pretty decent for $350 12:35 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:43 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:54 < superkuh> As far as I am aware the wait time for new DK2 orders is significant. A handful of months at least. 12:56 < superkuh> At this point I feel like CV1 will be announced before a DK2 ordered today arrives. 12:56 < superkuh> But maybe that's just optimistic... 12:56 < kanzure> party pooper 12:59 < superkuh> No, no, I'm out of date. They're faster now. Only a week or two. 13:01 -!- weles [~mariusz@wsip-72-215-50-243.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:05 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-87-134-65.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:05 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-159-67-169.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:11 < chris_99> anyone know anything about waterjet cutting out of interest, i was just looking at http://www.adamlibert.com/Waterjet/ 13:11 < chris_99> but it doesn't say how much the pump would cost 13:11 < chris_99> or what pump they used 13:13 < kanzure> iirc when i looked it was about $1k per pound of pressure :P 13:13 < kanzure> so a good water jet cutter was like $50-80k 13:14 < chris_99> he says that costs $5k 13:15 < chris_99> in total i thought 13:15 < chris_99> but maybe that doesn't include the pump heh 13:19 < nmz787_i1> superkuh: CV1 means? 13:19 < superkuh> Commercial version 1. 13:19 < superkuh> (DK2 = dev kit 2) 13:22 < nmz787_i1> chris_99: I'm guessing you saw this then http://hackaday.com/2014/01/14/hydro-the-low-cost-waterjet-cutter/ 13:23 < chris_99> heh i'm just on that now 13:27 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52 < kanzure> .title http://blog.longnow.org/02015/02/12/the-cosmological-limits-of-information-storage/ 13:52 < yoleaux> The Cosmological Limits of Information Storage — Blog of the Long Now 13:52 < kanzure> paperbot: http://iopscience.iop.org/1367-2630/16/12/123049 13:52 < kanzure> .title 13:52 < yoleaux> Preserving information from the beginning to the end of time in a Robertson–Walker spacetime - Abstract - New Journal of Physics - IOPscience 13:52 < paperbot> http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1088%2F1367-2630%2F16%2F12%2F123049 13:52 < kanzure> ".. suggests that searching for a storage medium that lives forever may be a waste of energy, because the laws of physics themselves limit the amount of time that any information can be kept." 13:55 < kanzure> ( http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e2eeadf8dbaf1a207adaaac0659729e8.pdf ) 13:57 < nmz787_i1> what the heck... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_of_YouTube_videos_in_Germany 13:58 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-171-142.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-171-142.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-171-142.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:42 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:49 < kanzure> .title https://blog.octopart.com/archives/2015/02/millions-of-resistors 14:49 < yoleaux> Millions of resistors! Using Octopart data to choose parts for the Common Parts Library - Octopart Blog 14:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:00 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:03 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-171-142.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:05 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:07 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:12 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:18 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:26 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-37-37.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:29 -!- maaku [~quassel@50-0-37-37.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:30 -!- maaku is now known as Guest99135 15:32 < nmz787_i1> this doesn't really seem like the best statement they could have made "As an example, when you pull a 100 Ω ±10% resistor out of the bag, its actual value is between 90 Ω and 110 Ω. Therefore, it doesn’t make sense to manufacture or buy a 105 Ω ±10% resistor – they overlap" 15:37 < nmz787_i1> hmm, otherwise it is a very interesting and informative article 15:40 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@c-71-225-211-210.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:46 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:49 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:57 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@nursie.omgwallhack.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:58 -!- jrayhawk [~jrayhawk@nursie.omgwallhack.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:08 < nmz787_i1> does this actually seem useful to anyone? http://devicetree.org/Device_Tree_Usage 16:21 -!- Guest99135 is now known as maaku 16:24 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-105-176-199.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:32 < fenn> there are way too many resistors in that "common parts library" 16:33 < fenn> who really needs anything but multiples of 1, 2.2, and 4.7 16:33 < kanzure> 20 million is too many for you? 16:33 < fenn> yes 16:33 < fenn> all resistors must be 10k resistors 16:34 < fenn> 1000 million can't be wrong 16:53 -!- nmz787_i1 [~nmccorkx@134.134.139.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:58 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@unaffiliated/merovoth] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:08 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 17:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:16 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-105-176-199.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: spreelanka] 17:20 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-105-176-199.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:56 < kanzure> blah 17:56 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-105-176-199.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: spreelanka] 18:17 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:31 < kanzure> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/unloadtab/ "If you tend to accumulate tabs and forget to close them then the Unload Tab [1] extension is a must. Your browser becomes laggy after opening 5 pages with flash elements? Just right-click on the current tab > "Unload Other Tabs". You can also set it to automatically unload background tabs after a certain amount of time." 18:32 < kanzure> "There is a very simple extension called Tab Counter which works very well together with TSTs and it helps to remind me when it's time to clean up the tab bar. It also appears to bring peace of mind that all tabs are still there, it's just the missing status bar. :)" 18:32 < kanzure> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/export-tabs/odafagokkafdbbeojliiojjmimakacil?hl=en "click an icon on the toolbar and it lists open tabs by title and then by URL." 18:32 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33 < kanzure> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabattack/ginflokhdahakklidfjlogllkkhokidj "Instead of exporting tabs as plain text it exports them as Markdown. And it allows you to download the resulting document with one click as a *.md file, instead of having to copy and paste it in an editor." 18:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:24 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:26 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:14 -!- BlueScreenMama [~BlueScree@d75-154-83-165.abhsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:27 < nmz787> paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00897970140-X 20:27 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/77fb3af35c417361bc3140181bcb8550.txt 20:27 < nmz787> fenn: in kanzure's ideal world, all resistors might be made in a planar fashion 20:27 < nmz787> ;) 20:27 -!- BlueScreenMama [~BlueScree@d75-154-83-165.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:28 < kanzure> nobody has time for the third dimension 20:28 < nmz787> LOL 20:29 < nmz787> "Moisture in the flask can be a big problem. Venting your flasks will reduce some of that. What to do to reduce moisture within the flask? Are there any secrets? Is reflasking an answer? So many tc-ers love the carnivorous plants. Here is one of Frank Tromble's beautiful Drosera Spatulata. Note the heavy water drops, but not too heavy. Keeping things just right is a challenge." 20:29 < nmz787> seems like that 28byj-48 flap motor could slide a door/vent open/close to take care of that 20:30 < nmz787> (apparently it has roots in the auto industry HVAC system) 20:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:37 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48 -!- Merovoth [~Merovoth@unaffiliated/merovoth] has quit [] 22:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-144-131-35-125.lns4.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-115-169-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:52 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 22:52 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:04 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 -!- Proteus [~Proteus@unaffiliated/proteus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:09 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-115-169-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: spreelanka] 23:14 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:16 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 23:17 -!- Proteus1 [~Proteus@75-163-94-226.omah.qwest.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:17 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:19 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-115-169-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:20 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-115-169-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:28 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Proteus 23:28 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:30 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-115-169-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:38 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-115-169-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: spreelanka] 23:39 -!- DumpsterD1ver [~loki@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:42 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-115-169-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:48 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 23:48 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:54 -!- spreelanka [~anonymous@c-76-115-169-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: spreelanka] --- Log closed Sat Feb 14 00:00:54 2015