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http://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=450 06:18 < yoleaux> Lightning Networks Part I: Revocable Transactions - Rusty Russell's Coding Blog 06:19 < kanzure> "Cryptographic backdooring" https://131002.net/syscan.pdf 06:20 < kanzure> "Breakthrough silicon scanning discovers backdoor in military chip" https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sps32/ches2012-backdoor.pdf 06:25 < kanzure> "Malicious SHA-1" https://malicioussha1.github.io/ 06:46 -!- mosasaur [~mosasaur@unaffiliated/mosasaur] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:55 < justanotheruser> If you're gonna post on hackernews you should make sure your website can handle the load 07:06 < chris_99> nmz787, you looked at NIR spectroscopy at all, i just found http://www.hamamatsu.com/us/en/community/optical_sensors/integrated_devices/index.html#ftir 07:06 < yoleaux> 05:20Z chris_99: congrats man! http://hackaday.com/2015/03/29/measuring-alcohol-content-with-time-of-flight-sensors/ 07:06 < yoleaux> 05:23Z chris_99: this seems like the best/most-constructive comment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscillating_U-tube 07:06 < chris_99> oh yeah nmz787 i've looked at u-tubes, they're not cheap 07:06 < chris_99> or easy to find 07:09 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:18 -!- justanot1eruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:20 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: Reconnecting] 07:21 -!- abetusk [~abe@74.118.24.162] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:39 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:46 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:02 -!- zadock [~zadock@muscalu.tuiasi.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:05 -!- the8thbit|work [~8bit@66.186.100.194] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:06 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:07 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:09 < heath> http://scienceforthemasses.org/ 08:10 -!- the8thbit|work [~8bit@66.186.100.194] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:13 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:14 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:24 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:27 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:33 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:10 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@host-37-191-195-228.lynet.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:11 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-46-214.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:26 < archels> paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2691725/pdf/nihms112615.pdf 09:27 < paperbot> http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016%2Fj.neuron.2009.03.028 09:33 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-plocejahmtahuztu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:34 -!- 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http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7ae4112d4d8eed62d53aeaeb8ec6a763.pdf 10:01 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a2ae237f516644b3f7704c3fe9a8dcd6.pdf 10:03 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.55.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:05 < papercomrade> paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/03/18/science.aaa5945.full.pdf 10:10 < papercomrade> ... 10:10 < kanzure> he is thinking 10:12 < papercomrade> slow thinking, not a hasty fellow 10:40 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-196-79-124.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-145-204-129.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:55 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@128-193-154-0.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:04 -!- zadock [~zadock@81.180.210.87] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:04 < heath> the science for the masses link is the group that was experimenting with night vision eye drops 11:05 -!- justanot1eruser 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Hacker News 12:36 < kanzure> http://www.wired.com/2015/03/dhs-reddit-dark-web-drug-forum/ 12:39 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9291015 12:39 < yoleaux> Hypothesis 1.0: A property-based testing library for Python | Hacker News 12:39 < kanzure> .title http://lists.idyll.org/pipermail/testing-in-python/2015-March/006348.html 12:39 < yoleaux> [TIP] Hypothesis 1.0: A production quality property-based testing library for Python 12:40 < kanzure> http://hypothesis.readthedocs.org/en/latest/quickstart.html 13:06 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:11 -!- Guest97134 is now known as maaku 13:11 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:18 < kanzure> gene_hacker: someone should do nanotech things with the subset of protein folding that happens to be predictable (e.g., strike out the useless unpredictable amino acids) 13:37 < chris_99> nmz787, are you about per chance? 13:38 < kanzure> prolly not 13:38 < chris_99> ah just wanted to badger him about his spectrometer heh 13:45 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:01 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@c-71-225-211-210.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:07 -!- zadock [~zadock@81.180.210.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:11 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:13 -!- _TK [~TK@85.253.81.52.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:14 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:19 -!- gene_hacker_ [~chatzilla@8-44.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:21 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@128-193-154-0.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:21 -!- gene_hacker_ is now known as gene_hacker 14:21 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:24 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:24 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:31 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:35 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:48 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:51 < nmz787_i> hi chris_99 14:53 < chris_99> hey, nmz787_i i saw your message about the oscillating u-tube thing btw, i have looked into them, but they're not cheap 14:53 < chris_99> also i was wondering about the spectrometer you got, does it go to 1100nm or something 14:55 < nmz787_i> I think it would be sensitive up there... silicon likes NIR 14:55 < nmz787_i> u-tube seems like something you might be able to DIY 14:55 < chris_99> well i just found a very interesting article, one sec 14:55 < nmz787_i> piezo buzzing on one side, piezo that is not buzzing but hooked to an ADC on the other side? 14:55 < chris_99> http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jamc/2012/728128/ 14:55 < paperbot> http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1155%2F2012%2F728128 14:56 < nmz787_i> apparently the response drops off a lot at 1000 and is almost nil at 1100... that might be artificially limited (some filter) but is probably not terribly easy to undo http://www.spectronicdevices.com/pdf/TCD1304AP.pdf 14:57 < chris_99> they're saying theres a key point @ 900nm 14:57 < chris_99> i'm still not sure how you actually convert to volume of ethanol from the spectroscopy reading though 14:57 < nmz787_i> ah, yeah they use a similar chip ILX511 14:57 < chris_99> cool 14:59 < chris_99> would it just be a case of calibrating the spectrometer with known references of ABV, and then converting the amplitude at that peak into a result 14:59 < chris_99> do you reckon 14:59 < nmz787_i> "The LED-enhanced light source was designed by assembling a tungsten lamp with two narrow-band LEDs centered at the wavelengths of 920 nm and 1020 nm. During operation the control electronics drive the tungsten lamp and the LEDs independently to enhance the long-wavelength intensity." 15:00 < nmz787_i> yeah most likely... bear-lambert law relates absorbance to concentration 15:00 < chris_99> ah i'll check that out then 15:00 < nmz787_i> you'd want a calibration curve, just like you did with the ToF meter 15:01 < chris_99> mmm yeah 15:01 < nmz787_i> so multiple known concentrations of alcohol 15:01 < chris_99> in the papers i'd seen before they'd used longer wavelengths, which required InGaAs 15:01 < chris_99> sensors 15:01 < chris_99> but this one would mean i could use a really cheap one 15:01 -!- abetusk [~abe@74.118.24.162] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:02 < nmz787_i> if the sample is really complex and lots of other junk is interfering with your interesting wavelengths, then you need to move to a technique like standard addition... where you get some of the sample, take a reading, then add some pure 'spike' (alcohol in your case) then take a reading, add a spike, take a reading... that way you can cancel out the noise 15:02 < nmz787_i> because the spikes are assumed to be pure, so the interfering agents remain constant 15:03 < nmz787_i> then once you add a few spikes, you plot them, and find the point at which the plot-line intersects Y=0 15:03 < chris_99> ah that's interesting 15:04 < nmz787_i> you can most likely get a LED that is 1100nm 15:04 < nmz787_i> or a laser 15:04 < nmz787_i> for cheap, used in communication industry 15:05 < nmz787_i> heck, have you tried a headspace breathalyzer? 15:05 < chris_99> i looked into using a breathlyzer 15:05 < chris_99> chip 15:05 < chris_99> one sec i spoke to a company 15:05 < chris_99> about this 15:08 < chris_99> http://www.dart-sensors.com/product-category/sensors/alcohol-sensors/ 15:09 < chris_99> they were very helpful, but i never got round to getting one alas, i should get one to play with 15:10 < streety> is that oscillating u-tube for measuring density? 15:10 < chris_99> yeah 15:10 < streety> I've been meaning to play around with piezo sensors 15:10 < nmz787_i> any alcohol sensor should be comparable if they're electrochemical, I thikn 15:11 < nmz787_i> they're just fuel-cells 15:11 < nmz787_i> take the alcohol and convert to electrons and CO2 and water 15:11 < chris_99> they told me how to do it, i asked if i could use ultrasound 15:11 < chris_99> to vapourise it, but i think they said it's not necessary in this case, because theres so much alcohol 15:12 < nmz787_i> yeah that's the 'headspace' 15:12 < chris_99> ah right theres a few things 15:12 < chris_99> they said to do 15:12 < chris_99> cool it down to like 5C 15:12 < chris_99> use a big sensor, and small sample vol 15:12 < nmz787_i> I would recommend keeping the temp and gas exchange as constant as possible 15:13 < chris_99> mmm 15:13 < nmz787_i> any temp changes will change the solubility of the alcohol in the gas 15:13 < nmz787_i> which could upset having nice trendlines 15:13 < chris_99> since they're cheap i may order one 15:14 < chris_99> ah 15:14 < chris_99> yeah 15:15 < chris_99> do you have your 'blue' spectrometer? 15:15 < nmz787_i> yeah at home 15:15 < nmz787_i> didn't touch it this weekend 15:15 < chris_99> aha, did you get the 1100nm or something grating 15:15 < chris_99> or the smaller one 15:15 < nmz787_i> it has a serial port and now I want to get my rs232 sniffer working 15:15 < nmz787_i> i got the largest range grating 15:15 < nmz787_i> i believe it has the ILX (Sony) sensor in it 15:16 < chris_99> neat! could you possibly try measuring some alcohol at some point, as i'd be very curious to see the results 15:16 -!- zadock [~zadock@81.180.210.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:16 < nmz787_i> yeah, 365 - 1100 nm... resolution: 3 nm 15:16 < chris_99> yeah that's the one 15:17 < nmz787_i> sure, I can take some measurements 15:17 < chris_99> cheers, that'd be awesome 15:20 < nmz787_i> I don't know that I've been to a liquor store here in this state yet 15:20 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@host-37-191-195-228.lynet.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:20 < chris_99> heh 15:27 < chris_99> heh check this - http://www.dart-sensors.com/product/dry-alcohol-standard-das/ 15:28 < chris_99> dry alcohol from what i can understand 15:43 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:56 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@46.156.47.69.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:00 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@c-71-225-211-210.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:19 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@46.156.47.69.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:23 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:28 < nsh> lolwrong 16:28 < nsh> *smh* 16:28 < nmz787_i> anyone here use gEDA? 16:29 < nmz787_i> I wonder how it compares to kicad... personally from the experience I've had with a few kicad bugs, I wonder if gEDA is more stable 16:30 < nmz787_i> also kicad uses environment variables, and I don't really like that. 16:36 < gene_hacker> why bother with proteins when we have a synthesis machine? 16:36 < gene_hacker> @ kanzure 16:40 < gene_hacker> there's quite a bit we could do with supramolecular chemistry 16:45 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aygicfqnsugqxbzc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:02 < kanzure> gene_hacker: elaborate 17:05 < gene_hacker> if we have a synthesis machine making crazy stuff like this: http://pubs.rsc.org/services/images/RSCpubs.ePlatform.Service.FreeContent.ImageService.svc/ImageService/Articleimage/2014/CS/c4cs00029c/c4cs00029c-f17_hi-res.gif 17:06 < gene_hacker> becomes a lot easier 17:06 < gene_hacker> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/347/6227/1190.full 17:07 < paperbot> http://libgen.info/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.347.6227.1190 17:08 < kanzure> that does not seem to be a protein 17:09 < kanzure> hmm 17:10 < kanzure> yeah, we should definitely be doing more chemistry things 17:26 < cluckj> it appears to be an article not a protein 17:27 < kanzure> the gif? 17:28 < cluckj> this is a computer screen not a protein 17:28 < cluckj> you can't fool me 17:29 < kanzure> look closer (jedi mind trick) 17:30 < cluckj> this is the protein I was looking for 17:32 < nmz787_i> anyone ever hear of offbrand uses for lasik? 17:32 < nmz787_i> i want to know if they could do lasik on my eardrum surface (to remove scar tissue which I believe reduces the frequency response of it) 17:42 < nmz787_i> (though i had a graft on my inner ear side of the drum, so that could be the source of dampening, which lasik wouldn't be able to get at from outside the ear) 17:43 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:53 < cluckj> we need to go all Fantastic Voyage into your ear, dude 17:53 < cluckj> or maybe Innerspace 17:56 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:59 < nmz787_i> "That single bond acts like a train hitch capable of linking boxcars together in any desired order" because train-cars or tanker-cars don't fit the analogy 17:59 < nmz787_i> that quote is totally going to end up screwing some student on a test 18:03 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@8-44.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:10 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:20 < CaptHindsight> http://shop.agic.cc/collections/everything/products/agic-circuit-printer-starter-set 18:27 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32 < fenn> how do you connect components to a paper circuit board? 18:35 < fenn> looks like they had to tape the batteries on, and maybe the LEDs too http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0468/4749/products/LED_battery_set_sample.JPG 18:36 < fenn> the resistance must be pretty high for that circuit to work 18:53 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aygicfqnsugqxbzc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:33 < CaptHindsight> fenn: not sure with their ink 19:35 < CaptHindsight> solder paste, conductive adhesive or ultrasonic bonding 19:36 < CaptHindsight> there are also synthetic papers that handle the temps of solder paste 20:29 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:29 -!- rolig [~rolig@unaffiliated/rollig] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Bye :)"] 21:47 -!- gene_hacker_ [~chatzilla@8-44.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:47 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:48 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:48 -!- gene_hacker_ is now known as gene_hacker 21:53 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:26 -!- sheena [~home@S010684c9b2592c83.vc.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:30 -!- sheena2 [~home@24.244.23.203] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:31 -!- sheena [~home@S010684c9b2592c83.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:36 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:40 -!- sheena2 [~home@24.244.23.203] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:42 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@58.182.38.58] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:42 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@58.182.38.58] has quit [Changing host] 22:42 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:43 -!- sheena [~home@24.244.23.205] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:22 -!- zadock [~zadock@81.180.210.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:33 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:39 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:46 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:49 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Mar 31 00:00:38 2015