--- Log opened Wed Apr 01 00:00:39 2015 00:19 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- _TK [~TK@82.131.62.245.cable.starman.ee] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:32 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:22 -!- FAMAS [~kvirc64@119.30.39.193] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:34 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bcxepeklrncudhux] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:37 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:39 -!- mosasaur [~mosasaur@unaffiliated/mosasaur] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:01 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:02 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:04 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-82-135-143.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:10 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-204-72-12.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:31 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:39 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:39 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:59 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:07 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:42 < kanzure> you guys are boring 05:46 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:47 < kanzure> .title http://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=462 05:47 < yoleaux> Lightning Networks Part II: Hashed Timelock Contracts (HTLCs) - Rusty Russell's Coding Blog 06:01 -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:01 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:11 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-29-148.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:23 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bcxepeklrncudhux] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:26 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:38 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:49 -!- _TK [~TK@82.131.62.245.cable.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:59 -!- Vutral [~ss@p5B2A6F9F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:59 -!- Vutral [~ss@p5B2A6F9F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Changing host] 06:59 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:31 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:38 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:43 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:50 < kanzure> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-04-01/greek-finmin-greece-will-adopt-bitcoin-if-eurogroup-doesnt-give-us-deal 07:54 < kanzure> wait.. it's april 1st. 07:54 < eudoxia> ugh what's even the point of this day 07:55 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:56 < kanzure> and yanis varoufakis already hates bitcoin 08:02 < cluckj> submitted by tyler durden tho? 08:04 < kanzure> https://twitter.com/yanisvaroufakis/status/583244430037090305 08:18 -!- zadock [~zadock@muscalu.tuiasi.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:45 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-29-148.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:08 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:16 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:22 -!- Vutral [~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:44 < maaku> kanzure: rusty is awesome 09:45 < maaku> kanzure: today is a day that you hunker down and get work done 09:45 < maaku> international ignore-the-news-day 09:45 < maaku> also, international do-anything-illegal-and-possibly-get-away-with-it-as-long-as-it-is-sufficiently-crazy day 09:45 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:46 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@128-193-152-175.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:55 < CaptHindsight> so it's not really march 32nd today!? 09:56 < kanzure> march 32nd is tomorrow 09:57 < kanzure> maaku: i dunno, pretty funny to see greece joking about bitcoin. 09:57 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:01 < maaku> kanzure: this seemed more realistic http://greece.greekreporter.com/2015/04/01/greece-inaugurates-special-committee-to-pursue-wwii-reparations-from-germany/ 10:04 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:04 < kanzure> "The article doesnt mention that the coin is called bitDrachma and is programmed to default every 30 years." 10:09 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/520042a.html 10:09 < yoleaux> Zoology: Here be dragons : Nature : Nature Publishing Group 10:10 -!- crescendo [~mozart@unaffiliated/crescendo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:11 < kanzure> ".. and wizards [are now seen] as senile old men with nothing better to do than wander around folk festivals in funny hats." 10:15 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:15 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:20 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:25 -!- mosasaur [~mosasaur@unaffiliated/mosasaur] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 10:30 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:30 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-3-189.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:30 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-3-189.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 10:44 -!- zadock [~zadock@81.180.210.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:54 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:05 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:15 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:17 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:4cdd:3b54:4d0e:9826] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:56 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:4cdd:3b54:4d0e:9826] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:57 -!- ButaTine [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cab:eaf9:5b1f:ab92] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:59 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:4cdd:3b54:4d0e:9826] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:00 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:4cdd:3b54:4d0e:9826] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:02 -!- ButaTine [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cab:eaf9:5b1f:ab92] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:08 -!- FourFire [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:20 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nfzgahbizslzctfg] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:26 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:29 -!- FourFire [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:30 -!- HotTopic [~Hot@162.72.70.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:31 -!- HotTopic [~Hot@162.72.70.141] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 12:35 -!- QuadIngi is now known as FourFire 12:41 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2602:306:35fa:d500:d4e3:d619:f358:78ca] has quit [Quit: yashgaroth] 12:44 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:56 -!- ButaTine [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:00 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:07 < archels> kanzure: any biological systems modelling languages that are good and could potentially be adapted to neural networks? 13:07 < kanzure> neuroml? :/ 13:10 < kanzure> i am not convinced about neuroml 13:10 < kanzure> but that's a start i guess 13:10 < kanzure> also take a look at the language that NEURON has been using? and then try to find whoever made its replacement. 13:12 < archels> I thought at first I could just use a subset of NeuroML, but there are some things like parameter heterogeneity that are not defined 13:12 < archels> NEURON's hoc? hah, get the hell out 13:13 < kanzure> i am trying my best here, this isn't even my field 13:13 < kanzure> :P 13:13 < kanzure> isn't this your job 13:14 < archels> I just want something that doesn't make me want to tear my hair out 13:14 < archels> more than likely it doesn't exist 13:14 < kanzure> you should consider lowering your standards 13:14 < kanzure> you might have to design your own 13:15 < kanzure> are you just recording activation thresholds, or what 13:16 < archels> yeah, the chap whose code I'm looking at implemented a great system 13:16 < archels> fprintf(PARAM_FID,'%25.16e\n',C,g,I0,tausEx1,tausEx2,tausIn1,tausIn2,Veq,theta,EEx,EIn,stepsize); 13:16 < kanzure> this is why i chose to invent flamethrowers 13:26 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:29 -!- ButaTine [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:34 < kanzure> hmm 13:34 < kanzure> http://www.opensourcebeehives.net/ 13:36 < kanzure> i don't understand. none of these designs seem particularly great or useful compared to alternatives? 13:44 < archels> having the intel to make those systems work and keep them working is probably more important than some pieces of plywood 13:44 < archels> so not sure what exactly it is they're selling 14:09 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:12 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@128-193-152-175.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:17 -!- augur_ [~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:21 -!- QuadIngi [FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:cd73:52c6:e4fe:69a5] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:28 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:50 < kanzure> recently unsealed silk road documents http://ia601506.us.archive.org/27/items/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824/gov.uscourts.nysd.422824.227.1.pdf 14:52 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@46.156.47.69.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:33 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nfzgahbizslzctfg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:37 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@128-193-152-176.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:45 -!- augur [~augur@c-71-57-177-235.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 -!- gene_hacker_ [~chatzilla@128-193-152-176.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:49 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@128-193-152-176.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:49 -!- gene_hacker_ is now known as gene_hacker 16:18 < kanzure> "Oh, you can't help it. I'm mad, you're mad, we're all mad here." 16:18 < kanzure> no, it's ANGRY 16:19 < kanzure> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ao4WTcMtY8 16:26 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:31 < catern> sigbovik hilarious as usualy 16:31 < catern> http://sigbovik.org/2015/ 16:37 -!- abetusk [~abe@209-6-202-176.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:38 < kanzure> "I had a nice young chemical engineer in just now looking for a nonenzymatic synthesis of chitin from N-acetylglucosamine. Sounded incredibly easy but I couldn’t find what he wanted. Chitin has no structure so I tried the registry search from the substance record reaction where it is a product. Lots of breakdown of chitin or enzymatic preparations. I then got references limited to preparation, same thing. So we went to the monomer ... 16:38 < kanzure> ... and tried reactions where this was a reactant. Over 7500. Combined the references with those from the chitin preparation search. Nothing. Nothing using the chitin registry number with a p. Nothing for reference search of various phrasings." 16:38 < kanzure> hmm 16:38 < kanzure> https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=10511762823224065324&as_sdt=5,44&sciodt=0,44&hl=en 16:40 < carissa> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/016622369090179E 16:40 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/%0A%20Phantom%20limbs%20and%20the%20concept%20of%20a%20neuromatrix%0A%20.pdf 17:02 < kanzure> hmm 17:03 < kanzure> paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/016622369090179E/pdf?md5=20a14b16d01769ce520d9911beb9a524&pid=1-s2.0-016622369090179E-main.pdf 17:03 < paperbot> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b879009ad0df99c7ec540504e787ed9f.pdf 17:03 < kanzure> carissa: there you go 17:22 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tchhikqroimtxcvf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:27 < kanzure> how to survive free fall without a parachute http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/351/e/8/shock_absorber_tattoo_by_d3adfrog-d4jdapk.jpg 17:28 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@46.156.47.69.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:35 < kanzure> would discharging a sufficiently huge capacitor save you from impact 17:36 < catern> u 17:59 < kanzure> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9306198 "So it's a ZRTP SIP provider that uses regular phone number format as the identifier? It strikes me as rather much like OSTN/OSTel, but using a phone-number-looking identifier rather than a username... and if that's the case, the whole ostn stack is opensource/auditable and federated, so I'm unsure of the improvement here, aside from the branding. Heck, I would prefer if they used the OSTN ... 17:59 < kanzure> ... chef cookbooks and contributed back." "So the project was built for a hobby, I wanted an encrypted phone service. But I wanted every aspect of it to be encrypted, from the signaling to the RTP. I wanted to make sure that no unencrypted client could connect to the platform. I would be interested in peering with oslec though." 18:09 < carissa> Thank you kanzure 18:09 -!- Quashie__ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:12 -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:25 -!- Quashie__ is now known as Quashie 19:43 -!- gene_hacker [~chatzilla@128-193-152-176.ptpg.oregonstate.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:54 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:31 < kanzure> drone company https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9304690 20:31 < kanzure> http://www.airphrame.com/ 20:32 < kanzure> an api to get streaming point clouds from a fleet of drones would be nice 20:50 < ParahSailin> come to think of it, i don't think idt actually does blastx every oligo sequence against nr/nt to check if you are making anthrax 20:51 < ParahSailin> that is a lot of computational resources given their volume 20:52 < ParahSailin> like 15 seconds an oligo 21:00 < ParahSailin> transcriptic doesnt do cloning anymore? 21:01 < ParahSailin> they only do the autoprotocol stuff now it seems 21:01 < ParahSailin> their cheap cloning stuff seemed to be the most attractive part 21:13 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tchhikqroimtxcvf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:32 -!- delinquentme [4a3d9d4e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:48 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:02 < kanzure> http://8ch.net/cyber/ 22:51 -!- genehacker [~chatzilla@c-98-232-239-159.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:06 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:33 -!- delinquentme [4a3d9d4e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.74.61.157.78] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 23:49 -!- zadock [~zadock@81.180.210.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving] --- Log closed Thu Apr 02 00:00:40 2015