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00:17 < fenn> i wonder how well the direct belt drive works in practice
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02:03 < archels> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/treeating-ocd-with-gamma-rays-is-really-hard
02:03 < archels> lobotomy isn't dead!
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06:16 < kanzure> fenn: you should eventually meet him and maaku in person. since they are in physical proximity somewhere.
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06:32 < JayDugger> Good morning, everyone.
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07:17 < archels> this seems like something that ##hplusroadmap would engineer in its spare time http://i.imgur.com/3ma6cRl.webm
07:19 < kanzure> is spare time something like a spare tire?
07:52 < archels> I think they both involve projects
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09:31 < delinquentme> kanzure, who are our mad chemists here?
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09:37 < kanzure> various
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10:06 < delinquentme> anyone whos done protein purification with heparin sepharose ?
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10:59 < FourFire> kanzure: are you on?
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11:12 < kanzure> what do you want?
11:18 < FourFire> kanzure: did you ever crack the emotiv?
11:18 < FourFire> I got really pissed when I realize they wanted to charge extra for no added value
11:19 < FourFire> that they'd actually spent money to fundamentally break their product for anyone want to use it more than fitness "quantified self" yuppies
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11:33 < kanzure> FourFire: emokit
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11:38 < FourFire> so?
11:41 < kanzure> huh?
11:41 < kanzure> i was answering your question
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11:46 < FourFire> I neither got an affirmative nor a negatory response
11:46 < kanzure> i told you, emokit
11:46 < kanzure> that is affirmative no?
11:47 < FourFire> oh thanks, I misunderstood you
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12:52 < nmz787_i> any non-biased research into laughter? i.e. http://www.laughteryoga.org/english/club/home
12:52 < nmz787_i> .title
12:52 < yoleaux> Laughter Yoga Clubs For Laughter Therapy | Enjoy Health Benefits Of Laughter
12:52 < nmz787_i> jrayhawk_: maybe you can comment? ^
12:53 < nmz787_i> that video combined with the Humans VS Chimps brain image kanzure posted a few days ago makes me think about chimps howling
12:58 < nmz787_i> cool video herein: http://hackaday.com/2015/04/20/interactive-software-to-solve-crosstalk-problems/
12:58 < nmz787_i> .title
12:58 < yoleaux> Interactive Software to Solve Crosstalk Problems | Hackaday
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13:39 < fenn> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-girl-who-would-live-forever story about 2 year old alcor patient
13:39 < fenn> i don't understand why they cut off her head, it's not like a 2 year old takes up a lot of volume
13:41 < FourFire> I think it was complications with the vitrification process
13:41 < FourFire> something about so much of her brauin being missing that there would be a large gap filled with fluid which would expand or something
13:41 < FourFire> but yeah, I'd very much want to avoid amputating my entire body
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13:42 < FourFire> I've got reasons to believe that at least parts of consciousness and processing occur in the nervous system outside the skull
13:50 < kanzure> that's another thing that i find extremely confusing about people's false beliefs about consciousness; they seem to talk like they think that using someone else's consciousness would change their memories or whatever. it's totally stupid.
13:50 < kanzure> and infuriating
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14:04 < archels> can we stop using the c-word
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14:04 < fenn> i'm surprised that alcor only has 130 patients
14:04 < fenn> c...omplications?
14:04 < kanzure> andytoshi: see!
14:04 < kanzure> i told andytoshi last night that it was 300
14:05 < kanzure> he thought 1200 patients
14:05 < fenn> http://www.alcor.org/AboutAlcor/membershipstats.html
14:06 < fenn> 1200 only if you include people who haven't been frozen
14:09 < andytoshi> ah, i had it backward
14:09 < andytoshi> i thought the bulk of them -had- been frozen
14:13 < fenn> wow this early cryonics enthusiast was born in berkeley in 1897 http://www.lifepact.com/frcjr.htm
14:14 < fenn> why isn't there more sci-fi about actual cryonics patients
14:14 < fenn> fred chamberlain in the year 3000
14:15 < justanotheruser> phillip fry in the year 3000
14:16 < fenn> fry is kind of a slacker tho, this guy was a gold prospector, cowboy, experimental radar operator, artillery officer...
14:19 < kanzure> fry was brain damaged from cryopreservation
14:20 < fenn> huh, that makes a lot of sense
14:21 < justanotheruser> I thought he was always stupid?
14:22 < fenn> maybe he's stupid AND brain damaged
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14:28 < kanzure> "over here is where we keep walt disney's immortal soul from going to hell"
14:28 < fenn> "Here, Fred Jr.'s grandson (Fred IV), serves as perfusionist, during the infusion of DMSO"
14:29 < fenn> i wonder how many freds will end up at alcor
14:29 < kanzure> alcor does not seem like the sort of organization to survive 100 kiloyears
14:30 < fenn> so what
14:30 < kanzure> just making an observation
14:30 < fenn> surviving 100 years is probably enough
14:34 < kanzure> we should hire temple grandin to make a million mouse facility to do large-scale breeding for cryoresuscitation reasons
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14:36 < fenn> the million mouse march against death
14:36 < fenn> a million lemmings can't be wrong!
14:37 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2iNlOHpCZY
14:37 < yoleaux> A Dairy Farm of 12000 cows in Saudi Desert.AVI - YouTube
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14:39 < fenn> dunno why you linked to that
14:39 < fenn> there are organisms that are naturally resistant to freeze thaw cycles, like goldfish (?)
14:40 < fenn> why not study the difference between goldfish and other fish that are not freeze resistant
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14:40 < fenn> you wouldn't even have to selectively breed anything
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14:43 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJRy82i8e5Q&t=1m55s
14:43 < yoleaux> Fair Oaks Farms Adventure Center - America's Heartland - YouTube
14:43 < kanzure> i believe goldfish do not survive cryoresuscitation
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14:49 < fenn> those are some happy cows
14:49 < fenn> the birthing barn is a cool idea too
14:49 < kanzure> and now for a dose of autism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjx0EgXflPM
14:50 < fenn> .title
14:50 < yoleaux> BouMatic - 80 Stall Daytona Rotary Parlor - YouTube
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14:51 < fenn> i don't really see what autism has to do with it.. just someone who actually has put any thought at all into the cow experience
14:52 < kanzure> i'm joking of course
14:52 < kanzure> anyone can enginneer a cow facility
14:52 < kanzure> *engineer
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14:53 < kanzure> bbrittain: hi
14:53 < bbrittain> wassup
14:53 < bbrittain> anyone used a megellan tecan reader before?
14:53 < bbrittain> the software that is
14:54 < bbrittain> nmz787_i: ^
14:55 < bbrittain> ParahSailin: ^
14:56 < ParahSailin> stop that
14:56 < kanzure> ask jonathan cline
14:57 < bbrittain> ParahSailin: never again. mah bad.
14:57 < bbrittain> kanzure: will do
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14:59 < bbrittain> my bouncer died. I should get that thing back up.
15:00 < ParahSailin> microsoft has free bouncer
15:00 < bbrittain> I'm all about that free. different type of free though.
15:00 < ParahSailin> you can run whatever on azure
15:08 < jrayhawk_> nmz787_i: yeah, there's lot of research on feedback between smiling/laughing and happiness even in solitary circumstances
15:08 < jrayhawk_> humans are highly suggestable
15:09 < jrayhawk_> though vulnerability to neural feedback looks a bit pathological most of the time
15:10 < jrayhawk_> http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/04/11/going-loopy/ is a nice post on the subject
15:13 < jrayhawk_> With loopy mental disorders like OCD and ADHD and depression being as common as they are, I suspect WEIRD subjects are just pathological test subjects.
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15:20 < nmz787_i> bbrittain: sorry I haven't
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15:51 < kanzure> bleep
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15:57 < augur> kanzure: bloop
15:57 < kanzure> understood
15:58 < augur> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBN56wL35IQ
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16:05 < kanzure> .title
16:05 < yoleaux> The Bloop: A Mysterious Sound from the Deep Ocean | NOAA SOSUS - YouTube
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17:40 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=5d1a12b5 Bryan Bishop: add cryonics to list >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/declaration/
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21:09 < kanzure> hmph
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22:04 < kanzure> "Researchers claim that microseismic activity from long ocean waves impacting the sea bed is what makes our planet vibrate and produces the droning sound. The pressure of the waves on the seafloor generates seismic waves that cause the Earth to oscillate. [...] The continuous waves produce sounds lasting from 13 to 300 seconds. They can be heard by a relatively small proportion of people – who are sensitive to the hums – and also by ...
22:04 < kanzure> ... seismic instruments."
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