--- Log opened Fri May 29 00:00:17 2015 --- Day changed Fri May 29 2015 00:00 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 00:08 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:10 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:12 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:16 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-145-0-54.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:16 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-146-0-110.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:18 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:25 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:31 -!- jdolan_ [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 00:31 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:47 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@162-13-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:48 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:48 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:11 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:21 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 01:23 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:33 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 01:35 -!- Viper168_ is now known as Viper168 02:03 < archels> http://ads.plos.org/www/delivery/ai.php?filename=redditbanner_160x600_2.png&contenttype=png 02:03 < archels> 'mkay 02:24 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d75-155-236-222.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d75-155-236-222.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:25 -!- jdolan_ [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:26 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:01 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:11 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:19 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:38 -!- wrldpc [~ben@176.111.1.110.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 04:05 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:40 -!- jdolan_ [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:41 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:48 < archels> http://www.mattkeeter.com/projects/antimony/3/ 04:48 < archels> (3D CAD) 05:17 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@c-50-188-243-111.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:28 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:36 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:37 -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:40 < FourFire> I found this: http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#209 Are open source compilers still that bad? 06:19 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:25 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:34 < redlegion> Anyone tried noopept? 06:36 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9623609 06:36 < yoleaux> Antimony – A fresh look at CAD software | Hacker News 06:38 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@208.83.72.113] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:38 < redlegion> kanzure: I'll have to look at that. Is It parametric? 06:38 < kanzure> not sure. looks like shit to me. 06:39 < kanzure> redlegion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9248640 06:43 < redlegion> I can't stand FreeCAD 06:43 < redlegion> I'd rather use PTC Creo 06:44 < kanzure> freecad is just a wrapper around opencascade, which is very difficult to maintain http://diyhpl.us/wiki/cad/opencascade/ 06:51 < kanzure> email security stuff https://github.com/mail-in-a-box/mailinabox/blob/master/security.md 06:51 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:51 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@208.83.72.113] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:53 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@208.83.72.113] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:57 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:04 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@162-13-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:05 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-98-145.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:14 < kanzure> this is approximately how i type http://xkcd.com/1530/ 07:56 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@208.83.72.113] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:59 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@208.83.72.113] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:14 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@5-14-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:15 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@208.83.72.113] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:15 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 -!- jdolan [~jdolan@208.83.72.113] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:23 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@5-14-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:24 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-73-202-243-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:25 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:32 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-73-202-243-243.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:38 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:45 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:47 -!- Zinglon [~Zinglon@ip565f6f48.direct-adsl.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:53 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:02 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.55.41] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:42 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:06 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qtcrsdbmbrkymacn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:10 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.55.41] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:46 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:49 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:16 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.73] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:44 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:58 < kanzure> http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27546-homebrew-heroin-soon-anyone-will-be-able-to-make-illegal-drugs.html 11:58 < kanzure> bah "In a commentary in Nature, Bubela and her co-authors say governments need to act now if they want now to prevent morphine-making yeasts getting into the wrong hands. Some fear that drug use could soar if home-brewing makes drugs easily available." 11:59 < eudoxia> stick to the science 12:00 < kanzure> indeed 12:00 < kanzure> "the wrong hands" 12:01 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:01 < eudoxia> and the distinction between right and wrong hands is made by some parasitic rent-seeking commie tenured bioethicist :^) 12:01 < rk[1]> kanzure: a gauss rifle is a railgun that has gates 12:10 < superkuh> No. 12:12 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:13 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qtcrsdbmbrkymacn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:15 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste ] 12:15 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:15 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:30 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has 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nmz787_i> kanzure: did you see the YACK today on hackaday (yet another cad kernel)? 14:05 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@192.55.55.37] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:05 < nmz787_i> http://hackaday.com/2015/05/29/otherworldy-cad-software-hails-from-a-parallel-universe/ 14:08 < kanzure> yes i saw that. 14:08 < kanzure> seemed to be just csg 14:11 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:11 < rkos> also this http://crs.sagepub.com/content/38/2/265.full 14:12 < nmz787_i> ah i didn't see that the hackernews comment you posted was from a discussion on that software (strange that hackernews doesn't automatically show the parent discussion title) 14:13 < rkos> aaand this http://ann.sagepub.com/content/605/1/178.full .... 14:27 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.73] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 15:01 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:09 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:15 -!- 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16:16 < jrayhawk> Just make sure you have a video card that can do multistream displayport 16:16 < nmz787_i> (apparently these are coming in and out of stock) 16:16 < nmz787_i> ah, hmm... guess we'll find out 16:19 < jrayhawk> DP1.2 can do HBR2, which is probably what this monitor will require for full-speed operation. 16:20 < nmz787_i> I really only want it to view super-huge schematics 16:20 < nmz787_i> so refresh could be 30Hz I think and I'd be fine 16:20 < jrayhawk> Ah, okay. 16:21 < nmz787_i> seeing that some folks are using big-like-this monitors on the lenovo x220 at 30Hz... though I have the x220t 16:21 < jrayhawk> Most likely Acer's firmware will happily upscale 60hz 1080p if you want to do motion work on it anyway. 16:22 < jrayhawk> I think the shady Korean grey-market imports were the only ones to lack important firmware features like that. 16:23 < nmz787_i> mmm 16:24 < nmz787_i> my buddy would have given me one of those, but it needs dual-DVI, and all the first or second page google hits for displayport to dual-DVI converters seemed sketchy and around $100 16:24 < nmz787_i> sketchy as in they might not have supported all the pixels 16:24 < jrayhawk> Yeah, those seem unlikely to work. 16:25 < jrayhawk> I'd be glad to take such a thing if it's still up for grabs. 16:26 -!- wrldpc [~ben@baicb85d74e.bai.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 16:32 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-orbymjvnsuoyjoxq] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:45 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55 -!- wrldpc [~ben@baicb85d74e.bai.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:25 < wrldpc> .title http://www.wired.com/2015/05/silk-road-creator-ross-ulbricht-sentenced-life-prison/ 17:25 < yoleaux> Silk Road Creator Ross Ulbricht Sentenced to Life in Prison | WIRED 17:27 -!- wrldpc [~ben@baicb85d74e.bai.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc] 17:33 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uxtaoibfzmiywpwa] has quit [Quit: Connection 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