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08:36 < nmz787_i> anything I missed that I should look for in the logs? I haven't been checking the logs for the last month or so
08:37 < nmz787_i> i.e. anything on microfluidics or DNA synth/
08:37 < nmz787_i> ?
08:43 < Urchin[emacs]> I haven't been around much
08:43 < Urchin[emacs]> just grep them
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08:49 < kanzure> sadly i have spent this morning commenting on reddit http://www.reddit.com/user/kanzure
08:49 < kanzure> this is like the worst possible world, it's the one where i happen to use reddit sometimes. everyone needs to abort this timeline and start over.
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08:50 < nmz787_i> Urchin[emacs]: unfortunately there is no web-portal to grep the logs (actually I imagine that would be an easy Flask script to whip up), and I can't seem to SSH from my work laptop
08:52 < Urchin[emacs]> I keep my logs in a single file, I just need to set them to be public again
08:52 < Urchin[emacs]> wait a minute
08:53 < nmz787_i> oh, well there's the directory of http://gnusha.org/logs/
08:53 < nmz787_i> which I thought you meants
08:53 < Urchin[emacs]> that's not mine
08:54 < Urchin[emacs]> http://transhumanizam.fizika.org/hplusroadmap.log
08:54 < Urchin[emacs]> it's a bit on the large side
08:55 < Urchin[emacs]> 28MB
08:55 < kanzure> gnusha.org/logs reports 399 MB of content
08:56 < Urchin[emacs]> not in a single file
08:57 < Urchin[emacs]> note that I have large gaps for example when the server that does the logging is down
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10:17 < kanzure> something irks me about that "it takes 796 generations for a trait to reach saturation throughout a population" line that eliezer was spouting;
10:18 < kanzure> you don't need an allele to saturate the entire population to have selection effects that give overwhelming advantages to clusters of traits that happen to find each other prior to the saturation point. it's not a synchronization problem.
10:18 < kanzure> although maybe i am misremembering what he was using that line as an argument for.
10:26 < kanzure> also; i wouldn't expect it to take 796 generations for much longer (at least for human populations).
10:26 < kanzure> (given technological interventions)
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12:20 < nmz787_i> http://www.cms.int/en/news/catastrophic-collapse-saiga-antelopes-central-asia
12:20 < nmz787_i> .title
12:20 < yoleaux> Catastrophic Collapse of Saiga Antelopes in Central Asia | CMS
12:20 < nmz787_i> " More than 120,000 saiga antelope have been confirmed dead in central Kazakhstan, representing more than a third of the global population."
12:22 < kanzure> unfortunately i was expecting fields of rotting carcuses; it seems this was just a reporting error, and what they really meant was "Over the past few years, ....."
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13:10 < kanzure> 1b2413ae050676b0e075ed88dc84d900 54d20fef89183a0553325d8422fd67fe 8b3a2c285781d3b5d0f58e96e97018b0 03831cddbcc6b950143e01aa6cc25d89 809cc5822619390fbdac7a3163d63792 9d8be7ac11ebb05c73a32444ab42182e
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13:10 < kanzure> just some commitments; don't mind me.
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16:02 < kanzure> .title http://www.gofundme.com/qggqsvs
16:02 < yoleaux> Banking Organs to Save Lives by Tanya Jones - GoFundMe
16:02 < kanzure> "I was in Washington DC this week, attending a meeting that included academics, industry people, and representative from many government agencies. The meeting was hosted by the Organ Preservation Alliance, and in part, held at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. It appears even the government is becoming more interested in cryobiology, and more funding may become available soon. The excitement for this important work ...
16:02 < kanzure> ... continues to grow, as do opportunities for collaboration and innovation. "
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16:58 < kanzure> .title http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011224013004288
16:58 < yoleaux> A ferromagnetic model for the action of electric and magnetic fields in cryopreservation
16:58 < kanzure> "Recent discussions in the literature have questioned the ability of electromagnetic exposure to inhibit ice crystal formation in supercooled water. Here we note that strong electric fields are able to disrupt the surface boundary layer of inert air on the surface of materials, promoting higher rates of heat transport. We also note that most biological tissues contain ferromagnetic materials, both biologically precipitated magnetite ...
16:58 < kanzure> ... (Fe3O4) as well as environmental contaminants that get accidentally incorporated into living systems. Although present at trace levels, the number density of these particulates is high, and they have extraordinarily strong interactions with weak, low-frequency magnetic fields of the sort involved in claims of electromagnetic cryopreservation. Magnetically-induced mechanical oscillation of these particles provides a plausible ...
16:58 < kanzure> ... mechanism for the disruption of ice-crystal nucleation in supercooled water."
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17:35 <@fenn> obviously the solution to centralization is to be more adversarial. centralized systems are more vulnerable than decentralized systems, so blowing up a few hundred data centers ought to do the trick
17:35 <@fenn> whoops
17:35 <@fenn> that was supposed to go to ##terroristroadmap
17:36 <@fenn> also the cells alive system seems to work fine on water with food coloring, which doesn't have any magnetite nanoparticles(?)
17:37 < Adlai> bitcoin's new motto: sic semper tyrannis
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18:20 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/loghashes.txt
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19:39 < ParahSailin> fuck, i didnt think of this one, fish oil inhibits prostaglandin production
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19:58 < ParahSailin> dang it, "Fish oil prolonged gestation (283.3 vs 279.4 days; P < .006)"
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20:38 < dpk> ersatz paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/132/3/10.1121/1.4754976
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21:30 < kanzure> .title
21:30 < yoleaux> Categorical sound characteristics of free-reed pipe-organ stops
21:55 < kanzure> "Certain species of shrimp can even vomit a bioluminescent irritant that temporarily incapacitates an attacker."
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