--- Log opened Sun Jul 26 00:00:22 2015 00:30 -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:37 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:49 < xrr> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6zpEyDvdRA 00:49 < yoleaux> Intro to DNA, DNA synthesis, and microfluidics (Nathan McCorkle) - YouTube 00:49 < xrr> At 34:38 he talks about an idea to use photoisomerization for DNA synthesis. What do you think? Have there been attempts to do this? 01:00 < xrr> Oh cool, it's you, nmz787 01:03 -!- Taek [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:472e::] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:15 < erasmus> justanotheruser http://ktla.com/2015/07/22/dead-man-with-hundreds-of-weapons-linked-to-disappearance-of-oxnard-mother/ 01:29 < justanotheruser> erasmus: why are you linking me this 01:29 < erasmus> cause of your love for guns. 01:29 < erasmus> !gun control 01:29 < erasmus> gon control 01:29 < erasmus> gun control 01:30 < erasmus> you removed it? 01:30 < justanotheruser> what? 01:30 < erasmus> dude had 6 ½ tons of ammo in his condo 01:30 < justanotheruser> how is this related to a love of guns? 01:30 < erasmus> 5 million in guns 01:30 < justanotheruser> what did I remove? 01:30 < erasmus> you had a trigger for gun control 01:30 < erasmus> it said like NO GUN CONTROL 01:31 < justanotheruser> how is this related to this channel? You don't need to message me in the one channel we share for things not channel related. IRC has private messages and you're not on my ignore list. 01:32 < justanotheruser> Is a trigger for gun control a pun the NRA uses to describe gun control advocates? 01:34 < erasmus> no 01:35 < erasmus> yer getting upset. I can tell. 01:35 < erasmus> it's not important. Just an interesting read since it involves aliens. 01:36 < justanotheruser> Not upset, just incredibly confused 01:36 < justanotheruser> My statement above may have sounded mad, but I was just pointing out the facts surrounding my confusion. 01:43 < erasmus> ok. 02:29 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste ] 02:40 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rpodcoclrldqpnxk] has quit [] 03:20 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cuzrzcfgiitxrquu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:40 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.233.154] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:55 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:56 -!- nickjohnson_ [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pepukimlespkdnyw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:57 -!- EnabrinTain_ [sid11525@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rbpalxuwaizcvsdu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:58 -!- Stskeepz [~cvm@boat.tspre.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:00 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:02 -!- streety_ [streety@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:ded6] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:03 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: streety, nickjohnson, Stskeeps, EnabrinTain 04:03 -!- streety_ is now known as streety 04:05 -!- nickjohnson_ is now known as nickjohnson 04:06 -!- EnabrinTain_ is now known as EnabrinTain 04:15 < nsh> kanzure, systematisation of science may follow somewhat from the complexity-induced rigor and latent structure of computationalised empirical frameworks 04:17 < nsh> there ought to be some kind of occam flow/drift that repositions concepts as they are translated into an algorithmic ecosystem 04:18 < nsh> the complexity of representation and transformation lead to a kind of locality/proximity/relative-elucidation measure for different notions and models and givens 04:27 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:33 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:33 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:35 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:51 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:51 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:55 -!- Viper168_ [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 05:03 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:10 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yizvaxdqirfazuur] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:12 -!- streety [streety@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:ded6] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 05:13 -!- streety [streety@2a01:7e00::f03c:91ff:feae:ded6] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:14 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:20 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste ] 05:52 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bbwlxhmgrbahhers] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:52 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:07 -!- the8thbit [~8bit@66.186.100.194] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:39 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/news/visionary-leader-of-china-s-genomics-powerhouse-steps-down-1.18059 06:39 < yoleaux> Visionary leader of China’s genomics powerhouse steps down : Nature News & Comment 06:40 < kanzure> .title http://curbed.com/archives/2015/07/23/syd-mead-city-architecture-blade-runner-design-future.php 06:40 < yoleaux> Syd Mead, the Artist Who Illustrates the Future - Estate of the Arts - Curbed National 06:42 < kanzure> ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9950002 ) 06:42 < kanzure> "It hadn't occurred to me that Syd Mead might still be alive." 06:42 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:47 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2602:306:35fa:d500:acb6:2e47:b442:ba14] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:53 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:27 < cluckj> http://www.battlediabetes.com/lifestyle/diabetes/type-1-diabetes/is-an-endless-supply-of-free-home-brewed-insulin-in-your-future 07:27 < cluckj> I love intersections of my personal and professional life 07:39 -!- AmbulatoryC0rtex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:58 < chris_99> anyone heard of electroactive polymer displays before (i'd love to see a video of the one in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroactive_polymers) 07:58 -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@77.19.44.193.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 < kanzure> .wik electroactive polymers 08:20 < yoleaux> "Electroactive polymers, or EAPs, are polymers that exhibit a change in size or shape when stimulated by an electric field. The most common applications of this type of material are in actuators and sensors. A typical characteristic property of an EAP is that they will undergo a large amount of deformation while sustaining large forces." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroactive_polymers 08:23 < kanzure> nsh: i really don't think it's likely that anyone will ever be able to convince all the scientists to write in a format parseable by an "algorithmic ecosystem". that's just very very unlikely. 08:25 < nsh> no, but there will be some natural feedback between the folks having to model predictively 08:25 < nsh> and the folks wordsing up the models 08:25 < nsh> and if the former can actually educate the latter to minimise the friction of translation 08:25 < nsh> then that's a convergence, if dragging and screaming no doubt 08:26 < nsh> *dragged kicking and screaming 08:27 < Porb> Heya people, anyone know of solid alternatives to CRISPR and TALEN? 08:28 < Porb> Trying to do a little write up for Uni 08:28 < kanzure> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-22/cosmetics-startup-aobiome-sells-bacteria-for-healthier-skin 08:29 < yashgaroth> porb, pretty much only zinc finger nucleases in that realm 08:30 < Porb> ZFNs, looking now - thanks yashgaroth! Know of any good places to find information? 08:31 < yashgaroth> um review articles I guess, depends on the level you're writing for 08:32 < Porb> Just an introduction thing for comp sci students 08:32 < yashgaroth> ehh just parse wikipedia then 08:33 < Porb> Yeah, that's the level I'm at right now, thanks anyway though 08:33 < kanzure> yashgaroth: why does stuff cost so much 08:34 < yashgaroth> quality control, supporting the massive horde of biology graduates 08:34 < yashgaroth> most stuff is being bought by people who aren't spending their own money 08:36 < Porb> Most of it is being purchased by massive companies or universities, for them it's not that much 08:38 < Porb> But god it's expensive, 400$ just to mess with cas9 08:39 < yashgaroth> still a lot cheaper than zfn/talens 08:40 < Porb> From what i've read 08:40 < Porb> ZFN and TALEN both seem inferior to cas9 08:40 < Porb> For almost any application 08:41 < yashgaroth> well yeah you have to modify a protein instead of just RNA; not that RNA's the easiest thing to work with, but it's an improvement 08:42 < yashgaroth> I will say the pop-sci masturbation over crispr is a little too enthusiastic, like yeah it's cheaper but paying for TALENs was never the limiting factor in any experiment 08:44 < Porb> It's so hard to find related information on this stuff without getting into the whole "sciencealert" type of stuff 08:45 < kanzure> use scholar.google.com 08:45 < yashgaroth> ^ 08:45 < cluckj> ^^^ 08:45 < Porb> Oh shit, of course 08:54 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-240-65.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:01 < cluckj> that's why we're here 09:18 < FourFire> kanzure, finally running MD simulations now... 09:19 < FourFire> now, when the next one is done, I'm going to recompile gromacs to use GPU and latest AVX 09:47 -!- Porb [~Porbus@c110-22-139-137.mckinn4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:54 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:57 -!- ThomasEgi [~thomas@panda3d/ThomasEgi] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:29 < kanzure> /win 17 10:29 < kanzure> blah 10:54 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:12 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-blthzbihsbqfuqdq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:35 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bbwlxhmgrbahhers] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:11 -!- Quashie_ [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:12 < FourFire> Interesting, but is it useful? http://mattg.co.uk/words/noaa_sdr/ 12:12 -!- FourFire [~fourfire@77.19.44.193.tmi.telenormobil.no] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 12:17 -!- eudoxia_ [~eudoxia@r179-25-125-222.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-240-65.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:26 -!- eudoxia_ [~eudoxia@r179-25-125-222.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:12 < kanzure> " For the next three hundred years in Europe, grave robbing would be a persistent problem without any real solution. So-called “Resurrectionists,” criminals who dug up corpses to sell to medical institutions, became rampant." 13:13 < kanzure> "In Augusta, the Medical College of Georgia went so far as to acquire a slave for their body snatching needs. Grandison Harris had been purchased jointly by all seven members of the college in 1852, taught to read and write, and instructed to monitor newspapers for news of slave burials, and then to exhume the bodies of the recently deceased and return them to the school for dissection. " 13:13 < drethelin> what happened after that 13:13 < drethelin> did enough people start donating their bodies to science? 13:14 < kanzure> from http://www.primerstories.com/2/grave-robbing 13:39 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wehpaylsunhfkulq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:00 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:30 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yizvaxdqirfazuur] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:34 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-125-222.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:35 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-blthzbihsbqfuqdq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:04 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has left ##hplusroadmap ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 15:13 < chris_99> http://www.bioinspired.net/products-1.html - memristors in DIP - $199 15:30 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:31 < sh> kanzure: Not sure why they call it a 'problem'. 15:31 < sh> Sounds more like a solution to me. 15:37 < kanzure> just got this notification from sourceforge http://pastebin.com/yHxEB2Lu 15:39 < juri_> ah, the cloud. 15:39 < kanzure> superkuh: http://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-direct-sampling-mode/ 15:40 < kanzure> juri_: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3do9k0/sourceforge_is_down_due_to_storage_problems_no_eta/ct77o49 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9908694 15:41 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:51 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ufvxxrncquvbxryn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:58 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:20 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@128.250.233.154] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:21 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-23-22-233-183.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-204-65-105.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:37 < superkuh> Yep, I am aware. I saw that rtlsdr hit the top of hackernews again this morning. 16:37 < superkuh> That rtl-sdr.com page is basically just a re-write of my own page. 16:38 < superkuh> And by basically I mean almost a 1-to-1 copy. 16:38 < juri_> I hate when that happens. 16:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:15 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:00 < heath> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shewanella_oneidensis 18:16 -!- ant4t [~s3an@50.153.153.49] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:35 < kanzure> .wik shewanella oneidensis 18:35 < yoleaux> "Shewanella oneidensis is a bacterium which can reduce poisonous heavy metal ions and can live in both environments with or without oxygen. This proteobacterium was first isolated from Lake Oneida, NY in 1988, which is where the name is derived from." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shewanella_oneidensis 18:45 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wehpaylsunhfkulq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:00 < erasmus> .insult kanzure 19:00 < yoleaux> you slutty rectum-socket 19:00 < erasmus> woah 19:02 < JayDugger> Neat! 19:02 < JayDugger> .insult JayDugger 19:02 < yoleaux> you tone deaf dick-hammer 19:03 < JayDugger> .insult JayDugger 19:03 < yoleaux> you tone deaf turd-blossom 19:03 < JayDugger> .insult JayDugger 19:03 < yoleaux> you elitist slut-knob 19:03 < JayDugger> .insult JayDugger 19:03 < yoleaux> you elitist boner-pirate 19:03 < JayDugger> .insult JayDugger 19:03 < yoleaux> you racist ass-waffle 19:03 < JayDugger> And to think I'd learn such insults here! 19:04 < JayDugger> .botsnack 19:04 < yoleaux> :D 19:20 < eudoxia> "racist ass-waffle" 10/10 19:20 -!- ant4t [~s3an@50.153.153.49] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:22 < JayDugger> I favor "elitist boner-pirate." 19:24 < eudoxia> i read elitist as eleitl 19:25 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26 -!- rigel [~yourmom@c-24-21-52-83.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:36 < kanzure> http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2lt9206gt/new-york-southern-district-court/elsevier-inc-et-al-v-scihub-et-al/ 19:52 -!- Porb [~Porbus@c110-22-139-137.mckinn4.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:59 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:01 < kanzure> alexanra elbakyan is listed as the defendant 20:02 < kanzure> i wonder if they figured it out because of http://gnusha.org/logs/2013-07-05.log 20:03 < kanzure> oh it's not in there, good job team 20:04 < kanzure> we're definitely not the cause of her impending doom 20:06 < cluckj> yay 20:07 < eudoxia> we did it guys 20:10 < cluckj> who in here is a john doe 20:10 < fenn> you 20:10 < yashgaroth> I'm number 37! 20:11 < cluckj> yay!! 20:12 < cluckj> I think I met her once 20:12 < kanzure> YOU get an indictment! and YOU get an indictment! everyone gets indictment. 20:12 < kanzure> yes, we met her in 2010 20:12 < kanzure> at harvard 20:12 < cluckj> ah 20:14 < eudoxia> .wik demonym of kazakhstan 20:14 < yoleaux> "The following is a list of adjectival forms of countries and nations in English and their demonymic equivalents. A country adjective describes something as being from that country, for example, "Italian cuisine" is "cuisine of Italy"." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_adjectival_and_demonymic_forms_for_countries_and_nations 20:14 < cluckj> I'll have to write a bit into my paperbot stuff about its death :< 20:15 < fenn> paperbot worked better before sci-hub anyway 20:17 < kanzure> yeah but what if she also runs libgen 20:17 < kanzure> as elsevier allegesw 20:18 < fenn> that's almost entirely unimportant with respect to actual outcomes for her and for libgen 20:19 < cluckj> ^ 20:20 < kanzure> hm. 20:26 < ParahSailin_> the armenian mafia will protect her 20:27 < kanzure> well it's not like she's done anything wrong 20:30 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r179-25-125-222.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:34 < ParahSailin_> well, the armenian mafia might not look too kindly on you outing her to the feds 21:03 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-9-188.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:05 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:24 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2602:306:35fa:d500:acb6:2e47:b442:ba14] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:30 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mczyjguqcghtgrul] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:59 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:01 -!- Quashie [~boingredd@50.14.92.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:11 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Mon Jul 27 00:00:23 2015