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01:18 < archels> “The first 90 percent of the code accounts for the first 90 percent of the development time. The remaining 10 percent of the code accounts for the other 90 percent of the development time”
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02:42 < xtalmath> woohoow 3d printer arrived
02:42 < xtalmath> finally start catch up 8 years or so
02:43 < EnLilaSko> Nice xtalmath!
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05:52 < kanzure> you are all boring
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06:34 < juri_> i try not to be. :)
06:37 < kanzure> ccc stuff https://www.youtube.com/user/mediacccde/videos
06:37 < kanzure> schedule https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/Fahrplan/
06:38 < juri_> oh. camp.
06:38 < chris_99> just been looking over that, i want to watch this talk https://events.ccc.de/camp/2015/Fahrplan/events/6711.html
06:38 < juri_> you had me scared for a moment.
06:39 < gradstudentbot> I don't have enough data to form a hypothesis.
06:40 < kanzure> .title
06:40 < yoleaux> Schedule Chaos Communication Camp 2015
06:40 < kanzure> grr poor <title> choices
06:41 < kanzure> CHECKSEQUENCEVERIFY stuff https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010198.html
06:43 < kanzure> large-scale graph processing https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10051845
06:43 < kanzure> "we were able to execute PageRank on over a trillion social connections in less than 3 minutes per iteration with only 200 machines"
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06:54 < JayDugger> Ha! finally had "the bitcoin talk" with my wife. It went very well.
06:55 < kanzure> do everything on testnet first
06:56 < JayDugger> Excellent comeback to my boast. :)
07:08 < kanzure> wasn't a comeback
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07:30 < justanotheruser> great comeback to his assertion that you were making a comeback
07:33 < chris_99> Sigmaaldrich must make a massive profit, i'm just looking at their site, 5g of iron nanoparticles ~30nm is £48, from China 100g is £55
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07:34 < justanotheruser> blame the EPA
07:35 < chris_99> heh
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08:13 < kanzure> some spam from scienceexchange: "De Novo Assembly of Novel Genomes: $1,500 per Sample At 100x Coverage"
08:14 < kanzure> up to 5 Mb
08:14 < kanzure> argh those buttheads they mean assembly not actual assembly
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09:23 < juri_> kanzure: is there a reason you're not reaching out to the biohackerspaces to find chemists to deal with?
09:25 < kanzure> hackerspaces don't have chemists
09:26 < kanzure> another reason is that i haven't rewritten the job ad yet (it's insufficient)
09:26 < juri_> ok. so we're really waiting on you. ;)
09:26 < kanzure> you should rewrite it http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/chemistry-hiring-ad.txt
09:27 < juri_> I'll take a look.
09:27 < kanzure> you should include things like "strict hours" and "definite goals"; those were two of the large complaints that i received.
09:28 < kanzure> it's not really helpful to claim it's all waiting on me, i don't have a magical design sitting around that i have been hoarding and not telling you clowns about
09:31 < juri_> i just meant this stage. I've talked to BUGSS, and was looking for a description of the "missing piece".
09:31 < juri_> so i could post it to their members-only list.
09:32 < kanzure> there are many missing pieces, such as material-compatibility of all of the chemical reactions with all of the parts of the equipment
09:32 < kanzure> and yield curves for each of the reactions for various atmospheric parameters or humidity etc
09:34 < kanzure> another big problem is gene assembly, the only solution that i have seen is electrowetting on dielectrics which would mean a non-inkjet design- which is fine, but then you need to figure out a way to have wash steps and also do chemical ligation of dna molecules on that platform, rather than the other platform.
09:34 < kanzure> the utility to hplusroadmap of having a dna hybridization array is much lower than the utility to hplusroadmap of having a way to assemble kilobase-sized dna fragments from smaller sequences
09:35 < juri_> it's the utility i'm interested in. i'm not tied to any specific method.
09:35 < kanzure> the dna ligase cycling reaction is a good idea and we should do that, although it's difficult to arrange because it might interfere with the de-linking chemistry for the linkers. and you can't do a wash step after you de-link.
09:36 < juri_> mm. i need to do more studying to understand this part of the conversation. ;)
09:36 < gradstudentbot> Could you get me access to his organs?
09:38 < archels> heh, post to mailing list: "desperately seeking neural data scientists"
09:38 < archels> maybe you should add "desperately" to your job ad too, kanzure
09:38 < kanzure> that was not one of the criticisms that i received from you people
09:39 < juri_> i don't think it sells what we're trying to do very well. too much job post, not enough recruitment.
09:40 < kanzure> "AWESOME TRANSHUMANIST FUTURE" takes too much effort to brainwash into people, that's a great way to alienate everyone who would be capable of doing the work
09:40 < kanzure> it's easier to just pay them
09:43 < juri_> there is a middle ground.
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09:48 < kanzure> go for it
09:52 < juri_> http://faikvm.com/chemestry_hiring_ad
09:53 < juri_> not too different, but a very different tone.
09:53 < juri_> If you like, i can start flying that.
09:54 < xrr> Typo, idean
09:55 < justanotheruser> kanzure: whos wore corepharma or barr
09:55 < justanotheruser> *worse
09:55 < kanzure> haven't had trouble with either of them
09:55 < juri_> fixed.
09:56 < kanzure> justanotheruser: i've only had problems with avantis
09:58 < kanzure> juri_: that still suffers from the criticism that it is too lax.
09:58 < juri_> i can't fix that, i'm not knowlegable enough about timescales for chemists.
09:59 < kanzure> excuses excuses
09:59 < kanzure> just make shit up
09:59 < juri_> i'm not in marketing. ;)
09:59 < chris_99> haha
09:59 < kanzure> ugh
09:59 < juri_> here. let me take another shot.
10:00 < kanzure> you can see criticism here http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-07-19.log
10:00 < kanzure> fixing those problems seems like a good goal
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10:03 < kanzure> details of the stagefreight vulnerability http://blog.exodusintel.com/2015/08/13/stagefright-mission-accomplished/
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10:12 < juri_> Compensation: You will be working with and reporting to subject experts at the top of their respective fields, who learn fast. You will be expected to produce results of similar quality, and defend your work and\
10:12 < juri_>  bill ammount with scientific rigor. We are ver flexible on the structure or nature of the compensation. Hourly OK, milestone payments OK, other schedules OK. Upfront payments also OK, asssuming that appropratel\
10:12 < juri_> y detailed plans are approved by the team in advance. You'll be paid in US dollars (USD) or bitcoin (BTC).
10:12 < kanzure> too lax
10:12 < kanzure> you need to assign a specific project at a specific time and place to overcome the "lax" criticism
10:13 < kanzure> and specific compensation and payment terms
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10:38 < kanzure> "data exfiltration from air-gapped computers over gsm frequencies" https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/usenixsecurity15/sec15-paper-guri-update.pdf
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12:44 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v524/n7564/full/nature14668.html
12:44 < yoleaux> The octopus genome and the evolution of cephalopod neural and morphological novelties : Nature : Nature Publishing Group
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14:49 < kanzure> "recollections of early chip development at intel" http://lark.tu-sofia.bg/ntt/eusku/readings/art_1.pdf
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