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Only 3 were monetized (IKARIA, Fold Rx & Sirtris). Sirtris was an original investor's dream (GSK paid $720 million but, it was a scientific-business failure. It was a very bad precedent to set for the aging research community & for the investment ... 08:08 < kanzure> ... world. We lost credibility on Wall Street & do not get any significant financial support from them. ... Recall , Art Levinson ( Calico Chairman-CEO & investing founder) was Chairman-CEO of the largest & most successful Biotech (Genentech) which he built up & sold to Roche for about $100 billion. That's why I'll bet on Calico. Your doubts are not at all warranted nor consistent with history & the emerging facts." 08:32 < kanzure> http://xkcd.com/1567/ 08:41 -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n 08:52 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ozdrxbugrxibieko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:00 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pwlqspfgcsthbkwp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:01 < kanzure> http://academictorrents.com/ 09:04 < chris_99> neat 09:17 < JayDugger1> xkcd's humor again escapes me. 09:18 < kanzure> he is pointing out that i should stop flushing entire rolls of toilet paper 09:18 -!- EnLilaSko- [~Nattzor@host-85-30-145-65.sydskane.nu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:18 < xrr> http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1567 09:19 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:19 < kanzure> or alternatively, that cueball was the one who was flushing entire rolls of toilet paper 09:19 < kanzure> and perhaps this is his community service sentencing 09:20 < kanzure> also it's a parody of useless household advice 09:33 -!- EnLilaSko- is now known as EnLilaSko 09:33 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@host-85-30-145-65.sydskane.nu] has quit [Changing host] 09:33 -!- EnLilaSko [~Nattzor@unaffiliated/enlilasko] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:43 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:46 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:46 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:32 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jzchcisuuypxfjvj] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:56 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2602:306:326f:aeb0:ccf:d726:9b9b:30f9] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:03 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@2602:306:326f:aeb0:ccf:d726:9b9b:30f9] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:07 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: bank] 11:08 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-111-27.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:08 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-111-27.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:12 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-57-111-27.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 11:14 < kanzure> http://www.jamiecraig.com/de-encapsulating-ics-with-a-laser-cutter/ 11:15 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:15 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:17 < chris_99> that's very cool, i recently ordered some microprobing equipment, i'm thinking of using fuming nitric, but that looks a lot safer 11:34 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:44 -!- sheena [~home@d162-156-32-180.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:46 -!- sheena [~home@d162-156-32-180.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:47 -!- sheena [~home@d162-156-32-180.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:56 < chris_99> it seems that would screw the fuses reading the HaD article 11:58 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@71-71-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:04 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@71-71-11.connect.netcom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:04 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@168-91-11.connect.netcom.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:10 < FourFire> JayDugger1, explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog... 12:12 < kanzure> .. a good way to spend friday night? 12:12 < FourFire> kanzure, I think I know what my future seedbox is going to be doing 12:13 < FourFire> now I just need to hack that first gen Mac Pro I've got at the office to support newer OSes 12:13 < FourFire> and order some 4TB Spinning rusts 12:19 < kanzure> would be better served torrenting libgen instead of that other stuff 12:20 < FourFire> well is there any easy way to do that? 12:24 < kanzure> torrents? 12:26 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:29 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-!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-130-80-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-130-80-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:08 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:16 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-130-80-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:23 < kanzure> http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/mo9/yudkowskys_brain_is_the_pinnacle_of_evolution/ 14:23 < kanzure> needs better troll 14:30 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-130-80-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:43 < kanzure> was removed, see http://pastebin.com/v870piDm 14:44 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-130-80-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:54 -!- Beatzebub [~beatzebub@d162-156-106-225.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:57 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-130-80-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:59 < delinquentme> TIL people run CFD on bioreactors 14:59 < kanzure> yep 14:59 < kanzure> i did that for a few 15:02 < gradstudentbot> You can't guarantee that. 15:03 -!- c0rw1n_ [~c0rw1n@186.79-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:06 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@186.79-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:06 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ozdrxbugrxibieko] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:06 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:11 -!- c0rw1n_ is now known as c0rw1n 15:22 -!- skysedge [~skysedge@cpc66884-mort6-2-0-cust376.19-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:39 -!- Qfwfq [~WashIrvin@unaffiliated/washirving] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:40 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:40 < kanzure> http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/nonfiction/speedofdark.htm 15:46 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@c-24-130-80-223.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:48 < fenn> http://fennetic.net/irc/elizabeth_moon_-_the_speed_of_dark.pdf 15:48 < kanzure> the religious aspects make me very not wanting to read this 16:00 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-20-189.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:17 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-20-189.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:18 -!- seanph [~seanph@140.206.88.189] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:19 < superkuh> I don't remember any religious aspects. 16:20 < superkuh> It was an enjoyable read. 16:22 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:24 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:24 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Client Quit] 16:24 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:25 -!- Houshalter 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There are so many negative effects of the larger brain/head that there must have been some immense selection ... 20:22 < kanzure> ... pressure for more brain matter to even get to this point. That pressure seems to be strongly at odds with the claim that a human can be normal with only 5% of the tissue." 20:22 < kanzure> "I won’t speculate on the childbirth factor, but as for the energy usage, well, have there been any studies of the metabolism of VNBs? Maybe it costs just as much energy to run a brain at 126-IQ-level processing power regardless of how much gray matter you’re running it on?" 20:22 < kanzure> or.. the strength of the selective pressure wasn' relevant to whether hydrocephaly-related mutations were found. 20:28 < jrayhawk> that is a very interesting set of paradoxes 20:34 < kanzure> "i think we need to eat more meat to figure out an answer" 21:11 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kmzmrxbpqpgdhbau] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:25 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25 -!- seanph [~seanph@69.30.244.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:26 -!- c0rw1n is now known as c0rw|zZz 21:30 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:33 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-58-200.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:34 -!- seanph [~seanph@69.30.244.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:38 < kanzure> boring 21:46 < nmz787> sup 21:47 < nmz787> I think I will need a PCR thingamabob sometime in the next year... I wonder which one is the best these days 21:47 < nmz787> i guess openpcr or the openrtpcr 21:48 < delinquentme> is qtpcr even released yet? 21:49 < nmz787> ya for a while 21:49 < nmz787> idk if it is actually fully open or not 21:49 < nmz787> https://www.chaibio.com/openqpcr 21:50 < nmz787> i actually still don't want to pay that much 22:16 < erasmus> you gotta pay if you want to play. 22:19 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20 -!- seanph [~seanph@174.139.50.26] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:29 -!- math3 [uid54897@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eeoxrmwfnjynpipu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:37 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:44 < nmz787> nah i don't really need that... to start I just need to check length... gonna make a capillary gel system with microcapillary tubes 22:57 -!- fleshtheworld- [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:a827:5285:7eb4:9cb] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:57 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:a827:5285:7eb4:9cb] has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:09 -!- strages [sid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ovciuxpyjerclibn] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:11 -!- strages [sid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ivbbpqofsuiinglk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:29 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:32 -!- seanph [~seanph@174.139.50.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] --- Log closed Tue Aug 25 00:00:51 2015