--- Log opened Sat Aug 29 00:00:54 2015 00:08 < tallakahath> drethelin: I hung out with a bunch of caltech people I ended up seeing two weekends later, where it wasn't so bloody hot. So I guess I got the 'value' but the value was limited. 00:08 < tallakahath> kanzure: I hear there's a splitting happening re: bitcoin? 01:23 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste ] 02:48 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tgnervywsumehqhd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:56 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ryvihzncuybkypky] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:43 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:52 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:50 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hwmseeizxyohiafu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:14 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:57 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:00 < chris_99> nmz787, not sure if you're about i saw you posted a vid relating two hardware hacking, you might enjoy these two vids: 06:00 < chris_99> https://media.ccc.de/browse/conferences/camp2015/camp2015-6711-hardware_attacks_hacking_chips_on_the_very_cheap.html#video 06:00 < chris_99> https://media.ccc.de/browse/conferences/camp2015/camp2015-6867-singing_capacitors_and_whining_inductors.html#video 06:20 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: jrayhawk, juri_ 06:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: jrayhawk 06:21 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: kish, PatrickRobotham 06:26 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztrjrlmmtkcstpyf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:27 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:27 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:30 -!- sandeep [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:30 -!- sandeep [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30 -!- sandeep [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:30 -!- sandeep_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:30 -!- sandeep is now known as Guest63756 06:30 -!- Guest63756 [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:56 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hwmseeizxyohiafu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:24 < drethelin> tallakahath were any of the talks worthwhile? 07:51 < kanzure> tallakahath: meh it's just a bunch of noise, see these: 07:51 < kanzure> https://medium.com/@sdaftuar/how-the-bitcoin-experiment-might-fail-7f6c24f99ecf 07:51 < kanzure> http://gendal.me/2015/08/17/brief-thoughts-on-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate/ 07:51 < kanzure> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010439.html 07:51 < kanzure> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010447.html 08:14 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:16 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:41 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:41 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:43 < kanzure> hmph 09:04 -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n 09:15 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:39 < tallakahath> drethelin: No clue, I was hungover/asleep during all the talks. The friends who did go seemed 'meh' on them. 09:48 < justanotheruser> Are computer glasses useful 09:56 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:59 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:02 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:09 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:16 < drethelin> I like flux 10:16 < drethelin> and computer glasses can create a similar effect 10:23 < justanotheruser> They are said to block blue and UV light. I don't know enough about eyes to know if that matters 10:26 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@74.61.157.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:55 < nsh> can anyone access this book from wankerlink? http://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-3-663-09197-4 10:56 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:58 < kanzure> nsh: you mean wankerkink 10:58 < nsh> aye 11:00 < nsh> nm, got it 11:00 < nsh> ( http://www.uploadable.ch/file/ZWTf7MAGbNX4/dlurt.A.History.of.Complex.Dynamics.pdf ) 11:02 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-57-55.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:02 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:10 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ztrjrlmmtkcstpyf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:22 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:29 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:32 < chris_99> i was just reading this comment on HN about JOVE 'you have to pay for the entire process (20K was the estimate we got)' which seems ridiculous to me 11:47 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-50-124-108.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-50-124-108.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 12:46 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-96-241-89-190.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:47 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-96-241-89-190.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:49 -!- kish [~oracle@c-67c8e555.024-401-73746f39.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:52 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:53 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:01 < souljack> [A 13:03 -!- archels [charl@toad.stack.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:03 -!- archels [charl@toad.stack.nl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:10 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@unaffiliated/andytoshi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:15 -!- omote [~omote@ip5b415fd4.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 -!- omote [~omote@ip5b415fd4.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Changing host] 13:15 -!- omote [~omote@unaffiliated/omote] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:21 -!- yashgaroth [~ffffff@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:56 -!- sheena [~home@S0106c8be196316d1.ok.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:85ff:9148:9c42:d2f1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:39 < kanzure> yashgaroth: tell me things 14:39 < kanzure> chris_99: that's hilarious, great find 14:39 < chris_99> yeah it's crazy heh 14:40 < yashgaroth> things about what things 14:40 < kanzure> oh you know.. stuff. 14:40 < yashgaroth> hmm 14:42 < kanzure> i am knee-deep in weird math stuff so wanted a biology reset 14:43 < kanzure> like https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/User:Gmaxwell/Reverse_header-fetching_sync 14:46 < yashgaroth> I think the ligase assembly method for 8-10mer oligos should work fine with the inkjet printer assuming it can actually print, have been meaning to test that reaction out 14:46 < yashgaroth> super-resolution microscopy is still the last interesting advance in biology 14:47 < yashgaroth> I need to form a shell company to start ordering cell lines that I will absolutely 100% destroy after one year or else form a licensing agreement with the patent-holders 14:53 < kanzure> do you need money and stuff for testing the ligase stuff 14:54 < yashgaroth> just time tbh, reagents are pretty cheap but working out the best methods and lab time is a pain 14:54 < kanzure> if you can find someone to hire and convince them to do the work, i can pay for that person 15:01 < yashgaroth> good biologists are hard to find, but maybe 15:01 < gradstudentbot> Hey, I got 100% yield! Oh wait, no. 15:12 -!- omote [~omote@unaffiliated/omote] has quit [Quit: ⊖ ◡ ⊖] 15:35 -!- erasmus [~esb@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:37 < delinquentme> yashgaroth, what cell lines 15:37 < yashgaroth> glycoswitch pichia 15:37 < delinquentme> alsooooo lab space in shipping containers 15:37 < delinquentme> YAY 15:37 < delinquentme> idk if I want it though 15:38 < yashgaroth> easy to load onto a truck, for all your mobile bioweapon needs 15:38 < mgin> how much does it cost to start a biology lab 15:39 < delinquentme> cGMP shipping containers: http://www.biologicsmodular.com/biologics-modular/about-biologics-modular/ http://www.germfree.com/ 15:40 < delinquentme> w regards to cell lines / promoters / things which induce overexpression ... these are subject to a HOST of constraints right? Its not just " this works best in this cell line " 15:40 < delinquentme> yashgaroth, why not just human cell lines? 15:41 < yashgaroth> expensive media, take forever to grow, take forever to generate a good producing cell line, absolute sterility requirements, viral clearance purification 15:43 < delinquentme> the media cost on these cells you're after ... just sugar water? 15:45 < yashgaroth> yeast extract, tryptone, trace metals, stuff like that; compared to expensive cell culture media that's got growth hormones and shit for the mammalian cells' widdle babby metabolisms that can't handle actually digesting food 15:50 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:16 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:46 -!- sheena [~home@d154-20-225-71.bchsia.telus.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:18 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ltezxoqxtjuxoanp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:21 < kanzure> mgin: well you just have to buy this stuff http://diyhpl.us/cgit/skdb/tree/doc/BOMs/diybio-equipment.yaml 17:22 < kanzure> so, $1-20k depending on how cheap you are, or how okay you are with everything always breaking 18:06 < juri_> so, no progress? 18:09 < kanzure> huh? 18:29 < juri_> no chemist ywt? 18:34 < kanzure> nope 18:48 -!- c0rw1n is now known as c0rw|zZz 18:50 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:56 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:03 < kanzure> "bloodcoin" for bloodbanking .. not related to bitcoin though: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131637.0 19:03 < juri_> damnit. need me to find one? 19:04 < kanzure> yep sure 19:08 -!- sandeep_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:12 < juri_> phd, with dns synthesis xp? 19:16 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bhqbrjngyrnltdoy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:17 < kanzure> nah can be undergrad, grad student 19:17 < kanzure> phosphoramidite chemistry experience, phosphotriester stuff, phosphorous stuff, other organic chemistry stuff is fine i don't give a shit 19:24 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qmdurqasucmhwbdo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:26 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ltezxoqxtjuxoanp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:37 * kanzure boops and beeps, http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin/bitcointalk-bookmarks.jotmuch-stdout2.txt 19:45 -!- sheena [~home@d154-20-225-71.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:47 -!- ParahSailin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:55 -!- ParahSailin [~parahsail@unaffiliated/parahsailin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:59 < kanzure> alonzotg was posting to bitcoin-dev back in 2011 http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2011-July/000254.html 19:59 < kanzure> (the uploader conspiracy nut) 20:38 -!- 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