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04:01 < fenn> stupid universe needs to stop imploding
04:01 < fenn> "Popescu, Mircea (2000). Induction Motor Modelling for Vector Control Purposes (PDF). Espoo: Helsinki University of Technology."
04:02 < fenn> how does that even make sense, espoo is in finland, what is a romanian bitcoin talk show host doing writing about flux oriented control
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04:03 < fenn> this whole page reads like a parody of technobabble anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_control_(motor)#Technical_overview
04:05 < fenn> just use the alpha beta gamma transform
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05:52 < kanzure> hm
05:54 < kanzure> "Founded by CEO Curt Becker and CSO William Efcavitch, two of Applied Biosystems' earliest team members, Molecular Assemblies is built around a technology dubbed EcoDNA, which the company claims holds significant advantages over classical chemical DNA synthesis."
05:54 < kanzure> "To date, Molecular Assemblies has successfully created A, C, G, and T monomers that act as TdT substrates, with A and G "showing a very good, high level of termination," he noted. A, C, and G, meanwhile, are showing easy removal of their terminator groups."
05:54 < kanzure> "To that end, Molecular Assemblies is in the process of closing a small round of seed financing and aims to raise $2.5 million in a Series A later this year, Becker said. And if the company meets its goals, it expects to be revenue positive by mid- to late-2017."
06:00 < kanzure> http://www.google.com/patents/US8808989
06:00 < kanzure> http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-07-20.log
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06:29 < kanzure> there's a dartmouth project somewhere for using nano-antennaes attached to ligands that match cancer cell surface receptors, then x-rays or other wavelength causes overheating and death of cells
06:34 < kanzure> eliezer should have written a rationality power rangers fanfic instead
06:35 < c0rw1n> lol
06:35 < c0rw1n> that would have been over real quick
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07:03 < kanzure> "Everyone I know (admittedly small sample size) is still paying around $2000-3000 for 30x WGS. Does the $1000 genome actually exist, or is this just pure PR on Illumina's part? What is BGI charging nowadays?"
07:03 < kanzure> "If you own your own Illumina, you can arguably get everything done for ~$1200-1400 with current chemistry, which gets better and cheaper with each iteration. We've also tested Oxford Nanopore's minION, which has probably the best chances of truly cheap sequencing bit that comes at the expense of accuracy."
07:04 < kanzure> from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10246514
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08:10 < FourFire> kanzure, ooh overheating thing is something I've wanted to see if plausible for a while
08:10 < FourFire> but not with cancer, instead infectious disease microbes
08:10 < FourFire> there's risks though
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10:59 < kanzure> procedural ascii/ansi face generation (prolly useful for video games) http://www.ultimaratioregum.co.uk/game/2015/05/02/the-big-reveal/
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11:27 < CaptHindsight> 1 Genome = 3,000,000,000 (base pairs) x $0.02ea  = $60,000,000, How do they arrive at $1K?
11:33 < CaptHindsight> "Getting back to the $1,000 genome, the equivalent of this cost in the world of DNA writing is $0.02 per base pair."
11:35 < CaptHindsight> 50,000 (base pairs) x $0.02ea = $1,000
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11:38 < CaptHindsight> since human genes range in size from 1,000 base pairs (bp) to over 1,000,000 bp, why was 50K bp chosen to be some sort of reference?
11:45 < kanzure> open hardware summit livestream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/C5GpFSYTx5n?utm_campaign=ustre.am&utm_source=ustre.am%2F1riMc&utm_medium=social&utm_content=20150919075938
11:49 < justanotheruser> is there anything interesting goin on
11:49 < justanotheruser> in the stream that is
11:49 < FourFire> nothing much on my ednd, I'm going to make a custom PC case, and my legs hurt due to my being stupid, that's about it.
11:50 < justanotheruser> how many man hours are needed to accomplish transhumanism
11:51 < justanotheruser> and is this channels productivity towards that goal waxing or waning
11:51 < FourFire> justanotheruser, not sure, on both points
11:52 < FourFire> depends which exten of ranshumanism
11:52 < FourFire> I'm mostly fucosed on indefinite biological lifespan, but there's loads more to it than that
11:52 < FourFire> also something fuked with my brain and I seem to have lost spelling/typing ability for some reason
11:53 < justanotheruser> maybe you're having a stroke
11:54 < justanotheruser> if so you should seek medical help
11:56 < TMA> it might be just some early onset dementia
12:00 < kanzure> justanotheruser: troll harder plz
12:01 < kanzure> justanotheruser: like, "exactly how many flaming mouse carcasses did you require for immortality, again?"
12:02 < FourFire> TMA, really early, I'm 21
12:03 < FourFire> justanotheruser, do you know "thatguywhoisthatguy" ?
12:03 < justanotheruser> FourFire: what
12:03 < FourFire> you seem... similar
12:04 < justanotheruser> probably because I've been in this channel for years
12:06 < FourFire> so, justanotheruser how do you define "achieve transhumanism"
12:06 < justanotheruser> FourFire: in a vague way that indicates I'm trolling
12:06 < FourFire> well don't waste my limited time then.
12:07 < justanotheruser> kanzure: the question was meant to be open ended, perhaps you could tell me how many hours I need to work per weeek for the next 40 years to live forever
12:11 < TMA> justanotheruser: 200 hours per week might be just enough
12:11 < justanotheruser> If I'm working 200h/week I might as well be a CEO and pay other people to do transhumanist stuff
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12:19 < TMA> well, exactly; now that you have a plan, go for it
12:19 < c0rw1n> how do you fit 200hrs in a week that's 168hrs long :s
12:19 < c0rw1n> lots of stimms ?
12:19 < justanotheruser> multitasking
12:19 < justanotheruser> cloning
12:20 < justanotheruser> all just steps in the h+roadmap
12:20 < justanotheruser> I bet me and a commune of 50 of my clones shut off from the world could do some amazing stuff
12:21 < TMA> c0rw1n: in a pinch, you can just have longer weeks than other people
12:21 < TMA> justanotheruser: they'd be either bored or incessantly quarreling over trifling issues
12:27 < justanotheruser> probably
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16:40 < kanzure> http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-September/011091.html
16:48 < fenn> taking the feynman approach to nanotech: http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2010/2010_07_27_tinware/IMG_0798.JPG
17:52 < c0rw1n> waitwaitwait "Mike Hearn recently posted his threat model, which specifically argues we should assume governments are not a threat."  <- revoke this man's Smart Dude card right the fuck yesterday ogods how does that even begin to happen, of course they're Not A Threat UNTIL THE DAY THEY CAN ATTACK YOU NITWIT! What part of Magic UNCONFISCABLE Internet TRUST-FREE P2P Money do you not get
18:28 < kanzure> c0rw1n: he has fundamentally different ideas about bitcoin, but you can't just ex-communicate him, because feelz and censorship
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18:30 < kanzure> fenn: i am not sure what that image is demonstrating
18:31 < kanzure> the larger items are not copies of the smaller items
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19:36 < maaku> justanotheruser: how old are you?
19:36 < maaku> i ask on the basis of giving better advice
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20:19 < maaku> justanotheruser: for what it's worth, if you are asking such quesitons (and not trolling) it is probably worth spending some time learning some project management skills
20:20 < maaku> achieving "living forever" is doable so long as you have a good chunk of your life in front of you and can manage to actually _focus_
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20:56 < fenn> just a tiny toolbox full of tiny tools
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