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04:12 < kanzure> hmph
04:21 < poppingtonic> .title http://probcomp.csail.mit.edu/bayesdb/
04:21 < yoleaux> BayesDB - Query the probable implicatons of your data - The MIT Probabilistic Computing Project
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08:58 < kanzure> about the development of open heart surgery http://circres.ahajournals.org/content/35/5/661.full.pdf
09:00 < kanzure> .title http://blog.telenor.io/2015/10/26/machine-learning.html
09:00 < yoleaux> Live analyzing movement through machine learning – Engineering @TelenorDigital
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09:27 < kanzure> "a frog is levitated using a 10 tesla magnetic coil using diamagnetism" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vyB-O5i6E
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09:45 < kanzure> re: skydiving column, makes sense to me. can have variable computer control of fan speed, use thermal imaging and rfid scanning of column occupants, have a few "offshoots" to open up and route the objects, push the objects into the "offshoots" using different air valves when an object has been correctly positioned. move everything up/down by computer control of fan at bottom of column, or vacum at top of column (w/e).
09:46 < kanzure> *vacuum
09:48 < kanzure> need grid of different fans (or just physical isolation of a few different streams of air) so as to separate mice from each other when they have similar mass or are staying in groups in the air.
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10:15 < nmz787_i> https://matthew-brett.github.io/pydagogue/rebase_without_tears.html
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10:32 < kanzure> vlsi abstraction over verilog (for pipelines) https://github.com/google/autopiper
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10:50 < maaku> kanzure: ooh the bayes db is pretty cool
10:50 < maaku> primitive, but in the right direction
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10:51 < kanzure> that wasn't me
10:51 < kanzure> crossref api claims to have pdf links 16 million DOIs https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10452727
10:51 < maaku> oh whoops
10:51 < maaku> kanzure: also sucking some air through the offshoot would allow a little imprecision on delivery
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10:57 < kanzure> there's a way to do mass-based separation using laminar flow of water, but not sure about turbulent air flow for separation by mass
10:59 < kanzure> http://www.cpmfg.com/recycling-equipment/recycling-sorting-equipment/air-separation-systems/
11:03 < kanzure> pneumatic potato sorting machine https://www.google.com/patents/US2843264
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13:10 < kanzure> https://github.com/contentmine/getpapers
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13:12 < poppingtonic> beep
13:13 < kanzure> https://github.com/ContentMine/journal-scrapers/issues/2#issuecomment-151264788
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13:27 < poppingtonic> wow that's a cool scraper
13:33 < Jawmare> kanzure, turbulent air flow for separation by mass? well solve the navier stokes equation first :D
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13:38 < kanzure> yes but also the mass is moving (they are alive)
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14:11 < kanzure> genehacker: which mechanism would you use to separate mice from each other if they were living in a pvc pipe? fenn suggests skydiving column in (different) pvc pipe, with thermal imaging and air valves to push the mice into separate routes.
14:15 < kanzure> tarantula eggsacs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOY_k870kn0
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14:54 < nmz787_i1> wouldn't skydiving be pretty stressful?
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14:55 < nmz787_i1> why not a conveyor belt, thermal imaging and a conveyor diverter?
14:55 < kanzure> goal was to avoid robotics
14:55 < kanzure> otherwise just use pick-and-place arms
14:55 < nmz787_i1> isn't an air actuator a type of robot?
14:56 < kanzure> perhaps a lesser robot? :-)
14:56 < nmz787_i1> if i had a robot that just blew air, it could be featured as an evil robot on the 'ROBOTS ATTACK: The three little pigs'
14:57 < nmz787_i1> /me my directives tell me to huff and puff in the direction of a strong thermal imaging signal
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14:58 < nmz787_i1> I imagine that PVC tube will need a mouse-shit-barf cleaning robot
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15:03 < kanzure> nmz787_i1: just pump liquids through the pipe to clean it up
15:03 < kanzure> flush the pipes etc
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15:43 < drethelin> what are we doing with these mice
15:44 < drethelin> fashioning some sort of mouse gun?
15:44 < maaku> selective breeding
15:44 < maaku> but I like your idea better
15:45 < kanzure> particle accelerator, really
15:46 < drethelin> is the goal to automate this instead of having to wrangle a bunch of cages and stuff by hand?
15:48 < kanzure> yes
15:48 < kanzure> and also less robotics
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15:50 < drethelin> why not just hire an intern
15:50 < kanzure> doesn't scale
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15:53 < drethelin> it does for farming
15:53 < kanzure> you learned nothing from the cow carousel?
15:56 < kanzure> from the video yesterday (and earlier; but yesterday.)
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16:18 < streety> what do you want to selective breed for?
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16:51 < kanzure> streety: cryonics-adaptation
16:52 < streety> wouldn't that be an all or nothing type thing?
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17:01 < kanzure> streety: nope
17:01 < kanzure> streety: you can focus on individual organ survival first (or cell survival before that), then work up to more organs, then whole body resistance
17:03 < streety> fair enough. Wouldn't that be the bottleneck in the process rather than the cage cleaning?
17:03 < kanzure> there are many bottlenecks
17:04 < streety> it just seems like you are attempting to over-optimize a step with marginal benefit
17:04 < kanzure> preparation of a mouse for cryopreservation can be done somewhat efficiently, like on an assembly line
17:05 < kanzure> or you can just toss the mouse in
17:05 < streety> so can cage cleaning
17:06 < kanzure> huh? no, you can parallelize the cage cleaning.
17:07 < kanzure> idea is to not bottleneck by number of interns you can hire
17:13 < streety> the cages would need to be changed more often than the experiment would be performed but a simple production line could handle a serious number of mice
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18:00 < Josh|NH4H> Mightn't more efficient photosynthesis serve as an effective method of doing CO2 drawdown?
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18:41 < kanzure> there was one plan that involved dumping lots and lots of selenium into the oean.
18:41 < kanzure> *ocean
18:47 < superkuh> Anyone know a way to trick google with wget? http://ajax.googleapis.com/ is selectively blocking my wget requests regardless of spoofer referer, user-agent, and headers.
18:47 < superkuh> In browser (FF) the same URLs work fine.
18:48 < kanzure> chrome -> inspector -> network traffic -> reload page -> right-click latest request -> copy-as-curl
18:48 < kanzure> probably cookies....
18:49 < superkuh> My list is at http://superkuh.com/ajax/libraries.txt and loaded from disk as -i. I just spent ~30 minutes bringing it up to date.
18:50 < kanzure> so much js :-/
18:52 < kanzure> also try wget http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/*
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19:40 < Josh|NH4H> My project for today: http://s18.postimg.org/3yrv7056h/p_Hequilibriumchart.jpg
19:41 < Josh|NH4H> Concentration of various Carbon Dioxide-based species in an equilibrium, open-air solution at various pH levels
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20:02 < superkuh> --header='Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded' was the key.
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20:42 < root_Myself>  California's Dept. Coroner 's office is obligated by their own "Oath's of office" to do Mandatory Investigating of any Breachers of peace or unlawful assemblies = BOHEMIAN GROVE "The Cremation of Care" is such. Lets trap the DE-FACTO Govt. with their own laws and make them eat themselves?
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21:48 < jrayhawk> http://www.news3lv.com/mostpopular/story/Henderson-cryotherapy-business-Ake-death-OSHA/V3Znn1ziHEC0wRDgzmlbQw.cspx -240F sounds like a pretty safe way to get preserved for ten hours. Isn't it some apoptosis signal on warmup that's the problem?
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21:50 < kanzure> hmm they should have internal safety stuff
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21:51 < kanzure> "user must have a pulse" seems like a reasonable place to start
21:52 < kanzure> yeah they should have probably called a hypothermia person or alcor or something, before removing from -240F.
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22:19 < kanzure> streety: parallelism is much more scalable for pvc pipe storage of mice. just route liquid and solvents through the pipes. this can be done simultaneously and is matter of cheap infrastructure compared to trained labor.
22:21 < kanzure> most infrastructure has some sweet-spot where below that number it's cheaper to just hire lots of people, so yes that should be figured out
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