--- Log opened Mon Nov 02 00:00:13 2015 00:57 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:09 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@erx35.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:46 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@erx35.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:48 -!- seanph [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:48 -!- seanph [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:56 -!- c0rw1n_ [~c0rw1n@108.193-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:57 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@162.84-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:28 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:35 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:35 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:35 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:35 < jrayhawk> does "lisp and its descendants" include "every functional language" 02:38 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zqsnwewspihcmbjt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:40 -!- c0rw1n_ is now known as c0rw1n 02:44 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:46 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:56 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-166-103-84.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:56 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-205-76-9.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:03 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:05 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:05 -!- seanph [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:16 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:50 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rpdqgwhhqaphurcc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:54 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:59 < poppingtonic> https://exploringdata.github.io/vis/programming-languages-influence-network/ 04:00 < poppingtonic> jrayhawk: ^ check out this programming language influence network 04:00 < poppingtonic> Select the language paradigm "Functional programming" 04:01 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@erx35.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:01 -!- zadock [~outsider@cthulhu.tuiasi.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:02 < poppingtonic> I don't think, say, ML or Haskell are true descendants of lisp. Such a language would be considered "part of the family", in that it implements all of the functions listed here http://www.paulgraham.com/rootsoflisp.html 04:03 < poppingtonic> Check the postscript document in the URL list at bottom 04:34 -!- Mariu [~Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:02 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 < archels> 02/13:43:30 < Lambda_Aurigae> we have one customer with a copier inside a biological lab cleanroom. 05:09 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-42-123.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:09 < archels> jeah, that seems like a good idea 05:48 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:53 -!- Darius [~quassel@cpe-158-222-160-123.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:53 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rpdqgwhhqaphurcc] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:57 -!- Aurelius_Work [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:08 < kanzure> no notes, just that chat log i posted 06:14 < kanzure> scienceexchange is claiming $1.2k/genome (30x coverage) 06:19 < kanzure> "Thinking positively: The genetics of high intelligence" http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614001676 06:19 < kanzure> "High intelligence is a good candidate for “positive genetics” — going beyond the negative effects of DNA sequence variation on disease and disorders to consider the positive end of the distribution of genetic effects." 06:19 < kanzure> bah "positive genetics" is only mentioned in the abstract? nonsense 06:21 < kanzure> "Does Monitoring Goal Progress Promote Goal Attainment? A Meta-Analysis of the Experimental Evidence." http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/87431/ 06:44 < kanzure> "accelerated dna alignment using an fpga" http://www.nextplatform.com/2015/10/29/the-next-sequence-for-fpgas-is-in-genomics/ 06:46 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-74-96-98-64.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49 -!- poppingtonic1 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:50 -!- Mariu [~Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:50 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:50 -!- poppingtonic1 is now known as poppingtonic 06:50 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-74-96-98-64.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:55 -!- _hanhart [~hanhart@static.101.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:17 -!- _hanhart [~hanhart@static.101.25.4.46.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Killed (Sigyn (Spam is off topic on freenode.))] 07:30 -!- gnusha_ [~gnusha@unaffiliated/kanzure/bot/gnusha] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:30 -!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by lobsters everywhere, banned by the Federal Death Administration (5 times) | this channel is LOGGED: http://gnusha.org/logs | http://diyhpl.us/wiki | "ray kurzweil is a pessimist" - george church 07:30 -!- Topic set by kanzure [~kanzure@unaffiliated/kanzure] [Wed May 20 12:46:25 2015] 07:30 [Users ##hplusroadmap] 07:30 [ abetusk ] [ BobaMa ] [ Filosofem ] [ kuudes ] [ proofoflogic] [ tallakahath] 07:30 [ adlai ] [ btcdrak ] [ FourFire ] [ m0b ] [ rancyd ] [ TeMPOraL ] 07:30 [ altersid ] [ Burninate ] [ gnusha ] [ maaku ] [ redlegion ] [ thundara ] 07:30 [ amiller ] [ c0rw1n ] [ gnusha_ ] [ mf1008 ] [ ryankarason ] [ TMA ] 07:30 [ andytoshi ] [ catern ] [ heath ] [ mgin ] [ sandeepkr ] [ Viper168 ] 07:30 [ archels ] [ chris_99 ] [ helleshin ] [ midnightmagic ] [ saurik ] [ vivi3 ] 07:30 [ ArturShaik ] [ Daeken ] [ HEx1 ] [ nickjohnson ] [ seanph_ ] [ xrr ] 07:30 [ augur ] [ Douhet ] [ iDavid ] [ nmz787 ] [ sivoais ] [ yoleaux ] 07:30 [ Aurelius_Home] [ dpk ] [ indiebio ] [ nsh ] [ souljack ] [ yorick ] 07:30 [ Aurelius_Work] [ drethelin ] [ jaboja ] [ p4nd4_ ] [ strages ] [ zuul ] 07:30 [ Bakkot ] [ drewbot ] [ JayDugger ] [ ParahSailin ] [ streety ] 07:30 [ balrog ] [ dustinm ] [ Josh|NH4H ] [ pasky ] [ Stskeeps ] 07:30 [ berndj ] [ EnabrinTain] [ jrayhawk ] [ PatrickRobotham] [ superkuh ] 07:30 [ bkero ] [ eudoxia ] [ justanotheruser] [ poohbear ] [ superXenoJen] 07:30 [ blueskin ] [ fenn ] [ kanzure ] [ poppingtonic ] [ Taek ] 07:30 -!- Irssi: ##hplusroadmap: Total of 85 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 85 normal] 07:30 -!- Channel ##hplusroadmap created Thu Feb 25 23:40:30 2010 07:30 -!- Irssi: Join to ##hplusroadmap was synced in 20 secs 07:30 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:30 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:35 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: tallakahath, proofoflogic, vivi3, nickjohnson, PatrickRobotham, m0b, ArturShaik, superkuh, gnusha 07:37 -!- tallakahath [~tallakaha@dhcp-179-37.materials.ucsb.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:37 -!- drethelin [drethelin@24-241-226-112.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [] 07:42 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.184.39] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:43 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:43 -!- m0b [sid24725@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ppyaobddtgpznoio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:44 -!- Darius_ [~quassel@207.251.103.46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:45 -!- proofoflogic [uid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bkbqbgdbncohspoy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:47 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xhgpsmkimmfvkdmn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:53 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qjkwtlzozsxlvytd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:54 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:54 -!- seanph [~seanph@174.139.191.50] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:56 -!- seanph_ [~seanph@101.230.15.34] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:00 -!- seanph [~seanph@174.139.191.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:04 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@89.17.8.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:11 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@108.193-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:12 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@108.193-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:14 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:17 < kanzure> bloop 08:20 -!- drethelin [drethelin@24-241-226-112.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:25 < kanzure> dna molecular ticker tape for single-spike resolution recording should be joined with something that extrudes the dna straight out of the cell and into a micro patch clamp instrument. 08:30 < kanzure> you could have two pores embedded in cell membrane wth a dna molecule that gets threaded through the first pore and out through the second nanopore. internal machinery of the cell can then be evolvable compartment based on its impact on the dna molecule (such as changing the sequence or reading the sequence or w/e). this is alternative to evolving just individual enzymes that grab on to dna molecule, like polymerases or whatever. 08:42 < kanzure> sent this idea over to https://groups.google.com/d/msg/enzymaticsynthesis/ROQjr5Fx8CQ/C0ixGnEyEQAJ 08:46 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@erx35.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:07 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 09:08 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-42-123.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:12 < poppingtonic> beep 09:33 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:44 < kanzure> "deterministic debugging with rr" http://fitzgeraldnick.com/weblog/64/ 09:49 < kanzure> more debugging like rr https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10492986 09:53 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.55.39] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:13 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.55.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:24 < kanzure> "my first law of todo lists is that my todo list expands to fill the capacity of the available hard drive" 10:24 < kanzure> "my second law of todo lists is that if you don't watch out, they consume all of your time in management costs" 10:24 < kanzure> "my third law of todo lists is that it's very hard to both write down a task quickly and at the same time writing in sufficient detail such that when you come to the task again in the future that you know both what it's about and how to do it" 10:33 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:42 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 10:44 < FourFire> kanzure, awesome proposal 10:46 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:54 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:57 < Aurelius_Work> Hmmmm 10:57 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.40] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:59 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:06 -!- mgin [~mgin@unaffiliated/mgin] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:16 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-145-245-253.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:22 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-205-76-9.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:25 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.43] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:30 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.43] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:30 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:37 < kanzure> "I think the first question one has to ask here is what’s the difference between heterochronic parabiosis vs. plasma injections twice/week? I would think there would be a big difference – for starters, heterochronic parabiosis is a 24/7 process. Note that this paper in Nature, www.nature.com/news/ageing-research-blood-to-blood-1.16762, said “Older partners lived for four to five months longer than controls, suggesting for the ... 11:37 < kanzure> ... first time that circulation of young blood might affect longevity”. Another question to ask is, intended or not, millions of older patients have received young plasma over the last 70 years. Some elderly patients would have surely noticed that the plasma injections were making them feel pretty good, wouldn’t you agree? Kind of like those heart patients “discovering” Viagra. Also note that as per my paper, the dosing window ... 11:37 < kanzure> ... of GDF11 is very tight. Too little and it does nothing. Too much, you get side effects and probably cross binding with activin type 2 receptors. What are the odds of getting the GDF11 levels right with plasma infusions?" 11:38 < kanzure> "I would suggest a key factor here is that plasma does not contain stem cells that enter the bloodstream and migrate to organs and tissues as required. An animal that is joined would benefit from such stem cell availability whilst simply injecting plasma does not. I am not convinced that plasma alone can rejuvenate fully and the recent Wagers work showing the Thymus is regenerated by young stem cells joining the organ to guide its ... 11:38 < kanzure> ... regeneration and not parabiosis does little to convince me otherwise. I am very much in the Conboy camp in that I believe Stem cell dysfunction is a major cause of aging and that its reversal (either by engrafting new stem cells, rejuvenating residents Stem cells or both) is going to prove decisive in increasing longevity. It is of course not the full answer to the aging puzzle and indeed circulating factors are important but I think ... 11:38 < kanzure> ... without stem cells in the plasma and resident stem cells mobilized we will not see the same levels of rejuvenation." 11:38 < kanzure> "I have seen a couple elders show palpable vitality increases after a transfusion, but one rarely knows the donor's age, nor to what degree the positive response is due to less esoteric factors, like simple addition of more circulating blood." 11:41 < Aurelius_Work> I'm curious what Peter Rothman is undergoing 11:43 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.88.71.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:49 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.184.39] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.2] 11:53 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xhgpsmkimmfvkdmn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:02 < Aurelius_Work> kanzure : I'm frustrated with everyone trying to make vr gloves or whatever that don't take into account any sort of even simple mechanical feedback 12:02 < Aurelius_Work> kanzure : even a flexible cord that had hard 'mechanical' stops for a strong feel would be better than some of this dumb shit 12:09 < kanzure> "Communication patterns for embedded system design" http://people.mech.kuleuven.be/~bruyninc/ecs/20150325-Communication-nup.pdf 12:11 < kanzure> Aurelius_Work: show me a vr glove that has lots of hand sensors. need this for typing reasons. 12:13 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@cm-84.215.195.59.getinternet.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:19 < Aurelius_Work> kanzure : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/asdffilms/gest-work-with-your-hands?ref=producthunt 12:22 < kanzure> "extremely low latency (40-60 ms), which means higher accuracy and more recognized gestures. We packed 15 discrete sensors into each hand" 12:22 < kanzure> 40-60 ms is too slow fo rme 12:22 < kanzure> *for me 12:22 < kanzure> that's only 16 characters per second at most, i think? 12:23 < kanzure> wait, er... 12:23 < kanzure> perhaps that means i have to hold a gesture for at least 60 ms? 12:24 < Aurelius_Work> no, I think it means there's a 40-60ms delay between initiating action and it showing up on screen? 12:24 < kanzure> and why aren't they monitoring each joint/flexion 12:24 < Aurelius_Work> regardless, their demo gave me minimal hope 12:24 < Aurelius_Work> because it's all very clearly low precision movements 12:24 < kanzure> and why aren't they monitoring wrist extension rotation etc 12:25 < kanzure> dunno what's responsible for forearm movement but i'm gonna guess shoulder stuff 12:25 < kanzure> but could be tracked by elbow accelerometers 12:26 < Aurelius_Work> couldn't you take one of those new materials that tracks how bent it is? 12:27 < kanzure> a mirror? 12:34 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-betsioobafxxbpue] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:53 < Aurelius_Work> nah, impedance based I think 13:07 -!- Darius [~quassel@207.251.103.46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:09 -!- Darius_ [~quassel@207.251.103.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:20 < nmz787_i> this maybe? https://www.adafruit.com/products/1361 13:20 < nmz787_i> .title 13:20 < yoleaux> Pressure-Sensitive Conductive Sheet (Velostat/Linqstat) ID: 1361 - $3.95 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits 13:21 < chris_99> could use fibre optics 13:21 < chris_99> like in vr gloves 13:21 < nmz787_i> like this? https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12712 13:21 < nmz787_i> .title 13:21 < yoleaux> Fiber Optic Fabric - Black (40x75 cm) - COM-12712 - SparkFun Electronics 13:21 < nmz787_i> :P 13:21 < chris_99> heh 13:24 < nmz787_i> .title culmination of my weekend at home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAGDeKLid8A 13:24 < yoleaux> nmz787_i: Sorry, that command (.title) crashed. 13:24 < nmz787_i> .title 13:24 < yoleaux> Arduino, neopixel LED strip, neomatrix LED panel - YouTube 13:30 < chris_99> cool :) 13:30 < chris_99> i need to dig out my led strips, although someone 2 stopped working 13:30 < chris_99> *somehow 13:53 < kanzure> css fontface trick to get password attribute values https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10492028 13:54 < maaku> .title http://kajsotala.fi/2015/10/maverick-nannies-and-danger-theses/ 13:54 < yoleaux> Maverick Nannies and Danger Theses | Kaj Sotala 13:59 < kanzure> "However, after some extended discussions in the AI Safety Facebook group, I finally understood " what 14:03 < kanzure> "To achieve safety it is not sufficient to point out a plausible sounding scenario in which everything turns out to be ok." 14:05 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@cm-84.215.195.59.getinternet.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:06 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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Of course, that is very theoretical, the best is to test..." 14:11 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cadtmbynddpgbndl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:14 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:24 -!- Pompolic [~Pompolic@5403054A.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:35 -!- Filosofem is now known as Jawmare 14:47 < kanzure> "Both ComEA and EC are required for DNA transport into the cytosol, but while ComEC is not required for binding, ComEA is partially required. ComFA resembles PriA of E. coli, an ATP-driven DNA translocase with homology to DNA/RNA helicases. It has Walker A- and B-type ATP-binding consensus motifs that are essential for normal rates of transport and transformation. Loss of ComFA results in a 1000x decrease in transformation, suggesting ... 14:47 < kanzure> ... that it is not absolutely essential. The ComEA-EC-FA complex thus probably drives single-stranded DNA through the ComEC channel in a process energized by ComFA-catalyzed ATP hydrolysis. The energy source for transport has not been rigorously established, but the rate of transport is about 200 nucleotides/sec. A role for the pmf has been established both in B. subtilis and in H. influenzae (Dubnau, 1999)." 14:52 < kanzure> most polymerases have been battletested for at least a few trillion years by now 14:55 < kanzure> significant underestimate, actually 15:01 < jrayhawk> http://www.pnas.org/content/111/14/E1354/F9.expansion.html structural hydraulic shocks in bones 15:07 -!- superXenoJen [~jenelizab@cpc76802-brmb10-2-0-cust399.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:08 < kanzure> what was the objection to my idea of inserting giant springs and shock absorbers into skydiver's bones? something about unecessary risk? bah 15:08 -!- jenelizabeth [~jenelizab@cpc76802-brmb10-2-0-cust399.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:08 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:12 -!- crescendo [~mozart@unaffiliated/crescendo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:20 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:41 -!- Darius [~quassel@207.251.103.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:43 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-betsioobafxxbpue] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:54 -!- Darius [~quassel@207.251.103.46] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:02 < jrayhawk> i occasionally wonder if carbon fiber springs are just outright superior to feet 16:02 < jrayhawk> http://www.google.com/search?q=carbon+fiber+feet&tbm=isch 16:08 -!- Pompolic [~Pompolic@5403054A.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10 < nmz787_i> well couldn't you also just make some bouncy-ball-bubble for skydiving? 16:10 < nmz787_i> /me worlds largest super-ball contains man 16:11 -!- Pompolic [~Pompolic@5403054A.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:19 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-157-202-44.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:24 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-145-245-253.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:31 < kanzure> hi Pompolic 16:31 < Pompolic> hey 16:41 < nmz787_i> hi Pompolic, what brings you here? 16:42 -!- Darius [~quassel@207.251.103.46] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42 < Pompolic> Well, I have some interest in biohacking/transhumanism. I recently registered on freenode and was recommended this channel 16:43 < kanzure> Pompolic: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/hplusroadmap 16:49 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:50 < Pompolic> Reading that wiki now, thanks. Am I where I shouldn't be? I.e., is this a private/semi-private channel? 16:50 < kanzure> not private 16:56 < Pompolic> I see 16:56 < maaku> kanzure: yeah the fact that MIRI technical conversations happen in facebook groups tells something ... exactly what I'm not sure 16:57 < maaku> I've been watching kaj sotala though, and he's coming around to reasonable, level-headed thought 17:00 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Advantages%20of%20artificial%20intelligences,%20uploads,%20and%20digital%20minds%20-%20Kaj%20Sotala%20-%202012.pdf 17:00 < maaku> still too obsessed with AI safety, but at least he's approaching from a pragmatic let's-actually-try-to-build-something-and-see approach 17:05 < kanzure> https://github.com/fennm 17:05 < kanzure> imposter 17:18 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cadtmbynddpgbndl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:46 -!- Pompolic [~Pompolic@5403054A.catv.pool.telekom.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:50 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-srncsaqtrzfilgok] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:53 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:01 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 18:05 -!- Filosofem [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:08 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:10 -!- c0rw1n is now known as c0rw|zZz 18:14 -!- lake_ [~lake_@35-214-152-104-static.reverse.queryfoundry.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:20 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:26 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:34 -!- zuul is now known as juul 18:57 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:01 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.184.39] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:24 < kanzure> "Yes the main guy is Andy Lo at MIT. He created a model to sell collatoralized Biomedical R&D bonds to pensions, institutions, the public, etc to establish a 30 Billion $ megafund for cancer. It could be done for any kind of technology you wanted to fund over 15-25 years though. So you could pick various diseases or health challenges and make a mega fund. Probably do it for other engineering challenges too." 19:24 -!- TheoryCat [TheoryCat@unaffiliated/wye-naught/x-8734122] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:28 < kanzure> http://mosaicscience.com/story/plutocratic-proposal 19:30 < nmz787> .title http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com/2015/10/death-valley-storm-recovery-numbers 19:30 < yoleaux> Death Valley National Park 19:32 < nmz787> and also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOxBbxHnRAI&feature=youtu.be 19:32 < nmz787> .title 19:32 < yoleaux> Paddling the mighty Amargosa River - YouTube 19:36 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.40] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:09 < superkuh> Yay. They've removed the captchas on sci-hub. 20:11 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:38 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-srncsaqtrzfilgok] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:40 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:44 -!- TheoryCat [TheoryCat@unaffiliated/wye-naught/x-8734122] has quit [Quit: TheoryCat] 21:01 -!- Filosofem is now known as Jawmare 21:08 < fenn> the "plutocracy proposal" is the sort of thing i had imagined andrew hessel was doing 21:42 < kanzure> jojack 21:47 -!- Aurelius_Home [~cpopell@c-76-26-144-132.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:54 -!- Aurelius_Home [~cpopell@c-76-26-144-132.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:06 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qaedzvkghbjkpgcd] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:52 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:55 -!- lake_ [~lake_@35-214-152-104-static.reverse.queryfoundry.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:05 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.40] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:08 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:11 -!- lake_ [~lake_@35-214-152-104-static.reverse.queryfoundry.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:28 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tcjrhnogvwhdgump] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@185.7.192.138] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:46 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] --- Log closed Tue Nov 03 00:00:14 2015