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Do you keep a master tag list? 00:11 < kanzure> http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v490/n7419/fig_tab/nature11495_F2.html 00:12 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:13 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v490/n7419/full/nature11495.html 00:13 < yoleaux> Complex brain and optic lobes in an early Cambrian arthropod : Nature : Nature Publishing Group 00:23 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-157-224-140.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-161-103-27.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:26 -!- Hercules [Hercules@unaffiliated/genkei] has quit [Quit: Powered off :-)] 00:58 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ldivcyexiaplcslj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:03 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ddodzvpfohjznwsf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 01:14 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:14 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:18 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bwuowmtflnkvhhdo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:22 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngqwbtskuppmwbyo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:31 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:dc8b:5fae:8b0e:f5f1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:56 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12 -!- Hercules [Hercules@unaffiliated/genkei] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:41 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:04 -!- Burnin8 [~Burn@pool-74-96-98-64.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:07 -!- Burninate [~Burn@pool-74-96-98-64.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:24 -!- Hercules [Hercules@unaffiliated/genkei] has quit [Quit: Powered off :-)] 03:32 -!- poppingtonic1 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:33 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:33 -!- poppingtonic1 is now known as poppingtonic 03:40 -!- TC [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:40 -!- TC is now known as Guest9101 03:43 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@66-161-138-110.ubr1.dyn.lebanon-oh.fuse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:08 -!- poppingtonic1 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:09 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:09 -!- poppingtonic1 is now known as poppingtonic 04:37 -!- jtimon [~quassel@74.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:06 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-21-184.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:31 < archels> .title http://www.chrisharrison.net/index.php/Research/Tomo 05:31 < yoleaux> Chris Harrison | Tomo 05:31 < archels> gesture recognition using electrical impedance tomography 05:33 -!- eudoxia_ [~eudoxia@r167-57-65-197.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:33 -!- eudoxia_ [~eudoxia@r167-57-65-197.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Client Quit] 05:36 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-21-184.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:59 -!- Aurelius_Work2 [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:05 < fenn> kewl 06:06 -!- Aurelius_Work [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:07 < kanzure> http://www.brainpreservation.org/shawn-mikula-on-brain-preservation-protocols-and-extensions/ 06:09 -!- atomical [~atomical@172.56.12.224] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:09 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:10 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:13 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:13 < kanzure> yosarian2 claims "grindhouse wetware" should be forgiven for being obnoxious because bodymod community will be coerced to do surgeries in the near future even if they are not bodymod surgeries, as result of giving them blinking led implants. but i'm not so sure. 06:13 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:19 < fenn> hold still while i soak your brain in a solution of osmium, uranium, and lead, then fire multiple relativistic electron beams at it 06:20 < kanzure> is it going to hurt? 06:20 < fenn> that's still an open ended philosophical question, unfortunately 06:21 < kanzure> will i still be myself after the surgery? 06:21 < fenn> yes, but you'll be dead 06:21 < kanzure> is this covered by my deductible? 06:22 < kanzure> your excerpt is bad, most of the tags are missing 06:23 < kanzure> .tell quonk which particular misleading things are you concerned about? 06:23 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to quonk. 06:24 < kanzure> .tell Jawmare why are the quantum dots melting your parafilm? 06:24 < yoleaux> kanzure: I'll pass your message to Jawmare. 06:24 < fenn> is yoleaux an automated teller machine? 06:24 < kanzure> nah it's just dpk hiding in a cardboard box 06:24 < fenn> .tell yoleaux what she said 06:24 < yoleaux> fenn: Thanks for the message. 06:25 < dpk> beep blorp boop 06:26 < fenn> oh europe is awake now 06:27 < kanzure> "Here we report exceptional preservation of the brain and optic lobes of a stem-group arthropod from 520 million years ago (Myr ago), Fuxianhuia protensa5, exhibiting the most compelling neuroanatomy known from the Cambrian. The protocerebrum of Fuxianhuia is supplied by optic lobes evidencing traces of three nested optic centres serving forward-viewing eyes. Nerves from uniramous antennae define the deutocerebrum, and a stout pair of ... 06:27 < kanzure> ... more caudal nerves indicates a contiguous tritocerebral component. Fuxianhuia shares a tripartite pre-stomodeal brain and nested optic neuropils with extant Malacostraca and Insecta2, 6, demonstrating that these characters were present in some of the earliest derived arthropods. ... The early origin of sophisticated brains provides a probable driver for versatile visual behaviours, a view that accords with compound eyes from the ... 06:27 < kanzure> ... early Cambrian that were, in size and resolution, equal to those of modern insects and malacostracans3." 06:27 < kanzure> maaku: ^ 06:28 < fenn> they ain't no sich animal 06:29 < kanzure> shouldn't this be slice-scanned immediately? 06:29 -!- jtimon [~quassel@74.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:30 < kanzure> "early origin of sophisticated brains" can't explain that 06:34 < fenn> welp it's either a brain or a heart: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v490/n7419/fig_tab/nature11495_F2.html 06:34 < fenn> might be a space alien though, hard to say 06:37 < fenn> definitely has the face hugger look http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v490/n7419/fig_tab/nature11495_F1.html 06:43 -!- Aurelius_Work2 [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:46 -!- Aurelius_Work [~cpopell@209.48.69.2] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:54 < kanzure> http://www.3dcadworld.com/the-failed-promise-of-parametric-cad/ 06:55 < kanzure> a strongly parametric model requires a lot of upfront thinking though. not sure you can coerce users into doing all that work. 06:56 < fenn> that's like saying "reusable code requires a lot of upfront thinking" 06:57 < kanzure> well it does 06:57 < kanzure> sketching some random lines is not necessarily going to give you something that is parametric in any meaningful sense 07:08 -!- atomical [~atomical@172.56.12.224] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 07:10 -!- atomical [~atomical@172.56.12.224] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:16 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2015/151110/ncomms9791/full/ncomms9791.html 07:16 < yoleaux> Targeted drug delivery using genetically engineered diatom biosilica : Nature Communications : Nature Publishing Group 07:17 < kanzure> "The diatom Thalassiosira pseudonana is genetically engineered to display an IgG-binding domain of protein G on the biosilica surface, enabling attachment of cell-targeting antibodies. Neuroblastoma and B-lymphoma cells are selectively targeted and killed by biosilica displaying specific antibodies sorbed with drug-loaded nanoparticles. Treatment with the same biosilica leads to tumour growth regression in a subcutaneous mouse xenograft ... 07:17 < kanzure> ... model of neuroblastoma. These data indicate that genetically engineered biosilica frustules may be used as versatile ‘backpacks’ for the targeted delivery of poorly water-soluble anticancer drugs to tumour sites." 07:18 < kanzure> "drug-loaded nanoparticles" but why would that work? just because you have antibodies doesn't mean they will find what you're looking for. and why wouldn't drug release happen before antibody binding? 07:20 < fenn> drug release happens before binding but the diatom is moving around and due to diffusion and dilution the drug payload doesn't hurt anything 07:21 < kanzure> ok so timed release maybe? need to have some left over for when binding actually happens... 07:23 -!- atomical [~atomical@172.56.12.224] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:23 < fenn> the half life can be whatever you want 07:23 -!- atomical [~atomical@c-73-51-191-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:24 < kanzure> also, is this assuming immune suppression, or are there algaes that can float around in blood with minimal immune system aggitation? 07:24 < fenn> pretty sure silica causes "agitation" heh 07:24 < fenn> .wik adjuvant 07:24 < yoleaux> "An adjuvant (from Latin, adjuvare: to aid) is a pharmacological and/or immunological agent that modifies the effect of other agents. Adjuvants may be added to vaccine to modify the immune response by boosting it such as to give a higher amount of antibodies and a longer-lasting protection, thus minimizing the amount of injected foreign material." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjuvant 07:27 < kanzure> .title http://www.rense.com/general77/dblooder.htm 07:27 < yoleaux> All Human Blood is Infected with Bacteria 07:27 < fenn> infected! gaacktblphgh 07:28 < kanzure> .title http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC421412/ 07:28 < yoleaux> Novel bacterial structures in human blood: cultural isolation. 07:28 < fenn> it's hard to take seriously anything on rense.com 07:29 < kanzure> why's that ? 07:29 < fenn> high crackpot quotient 07:29 < kanzure> ah. hm. 07:29 < kanzure> viral content of blood is high, why not microbial content? 07:30 < kanzure> .title http://jcm.asm.org/content/39/5/1956.full 07:30 < yoleaux> Does Blood of Healthy Subjects Contain Bacterial Ribosomal DNA? 07:30 < fenn> because there's no such thing as an endogenous bacterium, whereas there are endogenous retroviruses 07:33 -!- atomical [~atomical@c-73-51-191-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 07:34 -!- atomical [~atomical@c-73-51-191-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:34 < kanzure> http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/first-steps-lectures-from-the-dawn-of-computing/ 07:35 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5H-f6ydPg 07:35 < yoleaux> Designing and Developing Z1 through Z4, lecture by Konrad Zuse - YouTube 07:38 -!- atomical [~atomical@c-73-51-191-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:43 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQTfuI-9jIo 07:43 < yoleaux> von Neumann probes, Dyson spheres, exploratory engineering and the Fermi paradox - YouTube 07:47 < kanzure> "bacteremia" 07:49 < kanzure> "Ultrastructurally smooth thick partitioning and volume stitching for large-scale connectomics" http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v12/n4/abs/nmeth.3292.html 07:49 < kanzure> "High-resolution, high-throughput imaging with a multibeam scanning electron microscope" http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jmi.12224/epdf 07:50 < kanzure> "Mapping synapses by conjugate light-electron array tomography" http://www.jneurosci.org/content/35/14/5792.short 07:50 < kanzure> "Toward large-scale connectome reconstructions" http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095943881400035X 07:51 < kanzure> "Cellular-resolution connectomics: challenges of dense neural circuit reconstruction" http://www.nature.com/nmeth/journal/v10/n6/full/nmeth.2476.html 07:51 < kanzure> "Volume electron microscopy for neuronal circuit reconstruction" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22119321 07:53 < kanzure> matrioshka brain stuff http://web.archive.org/web/20020124150049/http://www.aeiveos.com/~bradbury/MatrioshkaBrains/index.html 07:54 < kanzure> "planetary disassembly" http://web.archive.org/web/20011218091635/http://www.aeiveos.com/~bradbury/MatrioshkaBrains/PlntDssmbly.html 07:55 -!- Hercules [Hercules@117.219.62.105] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:55 -!- Hercules [Hercules@117.219.62.105] has quit [Changing host] 07:55 -!- Hercules [Hercules@unaffiliated/genkei] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:18 < maaku> kanzure: interesting 08:21 < archels> OpenWorm journal club/discussion on whole-brain emulation in a couple hours 08:21 < archels> .t https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cv9l18020h2cc0doj62h29errn0 08:21 < yoleaux> archels: Sorry, I don't know what timezone that is. If in doubt, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones for a list of options. 08:23 < kanzure> wonder if they will actually remember any of the questions they were submitted 08:24 < archels> .title https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/openworm-discuss/yfTBVpGXuUc 08:24 < yoleaux> Google Groups 08:25 < archels> is their IRC channel active at all? I haven't joined for a while 08:25 < kanzure> afaik no 08:25 < kanzure> i left the channel after like 8 months of inactivity 08:26 < kanzure> i don't think they even remember that 08:33 < archels> hm so this is the first time I'm joining this Google hangouts time deal. I don't have to sign up for anything, right? Just click play. 08:33 < archels> s/time/type 08:34 -!- atomical [~atomical@c-73-51-191-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:38 < kanzure> i believe you need a google account of some kind 08:39 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:41 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:44 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.43] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:50 < archels> should be good to go on that front 08:58 < kanzure> about gangs stealing nuclear weapons from ukraine and other ex-ussr countries https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10554744 09:01 -!- omanomanooer [~omanomano@unaffiliated/omanomanooer] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:04 < kanzure> archels: this doesn't seem to be working for me. 09:04 < archels> yeah I was just about to say, getting nothing here 09:05 < kanzure> i hate video 09:06 < archels> oh, here we go 09:06 < kanzure> this is watch-only? wtf 09:06 < kanzure> what a pile of shit 09:06 < kanzure> i hate everyone 09:06 < archels> haha 09:06 < archels> you should have applied to be a "panelist" 09:06 < kanzure> fuck that 09:06 < kanzure> openworm is the worst thing ot ever happen in the history of forever 09:08 < kanzure> "you can ask us question through twitter" these people need to seriously fucking die 09:08 < nmz787_i> openworm is bad? 09:09 < nmz787_i> last night I had a realization that twitter is just a bunch of #PythonComments 09:09 < maaku> kanzure: holy fuck that's some scary shit (re: post-ussr nuclear material) 09:10 < kanzure> openworm is terrible. they left irc for this bullshit. i hate them; they want questions through fucking twitter? who the shit runs an academic group like that. that's a terrible idea. 09:10 < nmz787_i> I wonder what source file would get the most followers if it tweeted a comment, say every 1 to few hours 09:10 < nmz787_i> seems like we could build an IRC-twitter bridge 09:11 < kanzure> why would you want to do that? 09:11 < maaku> please don't do that 09:11 < nmz787_i> haha 09:11 < kanzure> this is the worst way to handle communication on the internet 09:11 < nmz787_i> so we can keep chatting as usual with openworm (Which i never did) 09:11 < kanzure> they aren't interested in communication, clearly 09:12 < nmz787_i> you could troll them by applying for a phd in their dept 09:12 < kanzure> they are obv. aiming for a view count, not actual collaboration with people over the internet 09:12 < nmz787_i> and then drop the offer at the last moment saying that, idk, openslug, gave you a better offer 09:13 < kanzure> i think you mean nemaload 09:13 < nmz787_i> oh 09:13 < nmz787_i> yeah, that one 09:17 < nmz787_i> hmm, http://www.accelerated-designs.com/binaryreaders/ULADI_Reader.exe "Import and Export various CAD tool libraries including: Cadence Concept, Capture, Orcad Layout andAllegro, Mentor DA, Padslogic, PADs, Viewdraw/DX Designer, Boardstation and Expedition as well asCadstar,  P-CAD, Protel, and others." 09:18 < nmz787_i> "Ultra Librarian comes in a free reader format, that will read data stored at a manufacturer or distributor web site.  The reader will not allow users to make any changes to the data, but will allow them to export the collected data to many different CAD tools free of charge." 09:19 < nmz787_i> neat, it has a kicad export format! 09:33 -!- Hercules [Hercules@unaffiliated/genkei] has quit [Quit: Powered off :-)] 09:41 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.43] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:58 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-wwrsikgyjkbqzolf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:58 -!- atomical [~atomical@c-73-51-191-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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I wasn't in the room, is it worth watching? 12:10 < kanzure> i wasn't watching either, i have no idea 12:13 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngqwbtskuppmwbyo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:32 < Aurelius_Work2> kanzure : hypothes.is now supports private groups 12:44 < pasky> i tried, but it was too boring to keep my attention 12:44 < kanzure> what were they talking about? 12:44 < pasky> (off mucking with rdf) 12:45 < pasky> kanzure: sort of generic stuff, basic methods and what are the general challenges (everything in the area) 12:45 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@192.55.54.38] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:45 < pasky> maybe i missed the good parts 12:45 < kanzure> maybe not though :-) 12:47 < kanzure> people who use video are notoriously low-signal anyway, so this isn't surprising 12:52 -!- QuadIngi [~FourFire@2a02:270:2015:cafe:5cc6:ce3b:7ee7:6075] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:57 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.38] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:06 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.18.82.99.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:10 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@erz108.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.18.82.99.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:19 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.18.82.99.tmi.telenormobil.no] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:26 -!- C0RVUS [~C0RVUS@cpc7-hava2-2-0-cust1017.6-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:33 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bwuowmtflnkvhhdo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:44 -!- FourFire [~FourFire@77.18.82.99.tmi.telenormobil.no] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:45 < kanzure> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G4iRTdXVIMY/hqdefault.jpg 13:47 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xvofrhmvobbvjuhk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:05 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qgcywgdwyqslujix] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:09 -!- drethelin [~drethelin@24-241-226-112.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:11 -!- drethelin [~drethelin@24-241-226-112.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:30 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:49 < Jawmare> kanzure: the solvent evaporates and melted it 14:49 < yoleaux> 14:24Z Jawmare: why are the quantum dots melting your parafilm? 15:19 -!- Alphabet [~Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:31 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:36 < kanzure> "Thirty-seven patients in Mexico and Costa Rica have successfully undergone a special laser procedure to change the colour of their irises from brown to blue. Conducted by a California-based company called Stroma Medical, the procedure costs $5,000. The laser treatment lasts just 20 seconds, and then the patient has to wait a few weeks for their body to remove the dead pigmented tissue, says Poppick. "People with blue eyes have a ... 15:36 < kanzure> ... completely colourless stroma with no pigment at all, and it also contains no excess collagen deposits. This means that all the light that enters it is scattered back into the atmosphere and as a result of the Tyndall effect, creates a blue hue." 15:37 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10553331 15:37 < yoleaux> How Insects Breathe | Hacker News 15:37 < kanzure> "Can a decrease in oxygen from 35% down to 21% really explain a decrease in insect size from eight-and-a-half feet down to just 3 inches? Is there an interesting mathematical relationship here, or are there more factors at work?" 15:37 < kanzure> "Great questioN! We spoke to Jon Harrison about this (the scientist we interviewed who studies insect growth & respiration). He says that the truth of the matter is we don't know the answer, it's still a hypothesis that the way insects breathe keep them small. There are other competing explanations, like that it's insect's exoskeletons that constrain their size, or ecological arguments (fewer predators means they can grow bigger). Also ... 15:37 < kanzure> ... spiders don't use trachea to breathe but are also small." 15:37 < kanzure> "One piece of evidence favoring the oxygen hypothesis is research that shows that the fossil record on giant insect size correlates with the oxygen levels in the past, all the way up until birds evolved (and wiped out the ecological niche for giant flying insects) http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/06/04/giant-insects-disappeared-thanks-to-falling-oxygen-levels-and-agile-birds/#.VkYYYWSrRhA " 15:38 < kanzure> "So to really understand this you'd need to breed insects in high oxygen over many, many generations, and have them evolve in this new environment. That takes a lot of time and money. Jon's lab has done it with fruit flies, and they do grow bigger over the generations." 15:40 < kanzure> .title http://irl.cs.ucla.edu/papers/right-size.html 15:40 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, that command (.title) took too long to process. 15:40 < kanzure> "Such are a very few of the considerations which show that for every type of animal there is an optimum size. Yet although Galileo demonstrated the contrary more than three hundred years ago, people still believe that if a flea were as large as a man it could jump a thousand feet into the air. As a matter of fact the height to which an animal can jump is more nearly independent of its size than proportional to it. A flea can jump about ... 15:40 < kanzure> ... two feet, a man about five. To jump a given height, if we neglect the resistance of air, requires an expenditure of energy proportional to the jumper’s weight. But if the jumping muscles form a constant fraction of the animal’s body, the energy developed per ounce of muscle is independent of the size, provided it can be developed quickly enough in the small animal. As a matter of fact an insect’s muscles, although they can ... 15:40 < kanzure> ... contract more quickly than our own, appear to be less efficient; as otherwise a flea or grasshopper could rise six feet into the air." 15:41 * kanzure types in an order for a batch of moon-bouncing dogs 15:47 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCs5OvhV9S4 15:47 < yoleaux> David Beazley - Python Concurrency From the Ground Up: LIVE! - PyCon 2015 - YouTube 15:51 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rohmqxzxjjgcqjdq] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:04 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:14 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:15 -!- xX420paylordXx [bff11274@gateway/web/freenode/ip.191.241.18.116] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:16 -!- xX420paylordXx [bff11274@gateway/web/freenode/ip.191.241.18.116] has quit [Client Quit] 16:17 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:20 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:22 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:28 -!- test [bff11274@gateway/web/freenode/ip.191.241.18.116] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:28 -!- test is now known as Guest5372 16:30 < Guest5372> Hello Is there anybody in there? 16:32 -!- Guest5372 [bff11274@gateway/web/freenode/ip.191.241.18.116] has quit [Client Quit] 16:37 < kanzure> nope 16:43 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:44 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:48 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@erz108.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:06 < archels> kanzure: I only listened in for about an hour before I had to run off, so mostly got Koene giving some superficial updates on techiques and mostly shrug at the more direct questions 17:14 -!- nmz787_i1 [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-viobzyesxucvlkoy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:14 -!- nmz787_i1 [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-viobzyesxucvlkoy] has quit [Client Quit] 17:16 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@192.55.54.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:17 < kanzure> i see. 17:22 -!- Aurelius_Home [~cpopell@c-76-26-144-132.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Aurelius_Home] 17:32 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:46 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:47 -!- c0rw1n is now known as c0rw|zZz 18:01 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-163-28-110.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:01 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@erz108.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-161-103-27.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:24 -!- Alphabet [~Jimmy98@89.41.57.33] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:33 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qgcywgdwyqslujix] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:43 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:e520:767b:2213:4a66] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:05 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:08 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:08 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:09 -!- jdqx [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:840e:f576:f3ef:f8e6] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:09 < jdqx> hello *world 19:10 < kanzure> hi jdqx 19:11 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:24 -!- C0RVUS [~C0RVUS@cpc7-hava2-2-0-cust1017.6-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:38 -!- mokstar [~mokstar@unaffiliated/mokstar] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:14 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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