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proofoflogic, nsh, andares, Josh|NH4H, ArturSha1 06:27 -!- proofoflogic_ is now known as proofoflogic 06:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: nsh, ArturSha1, andares, Josh|NH4H 06:53 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.241.11.25] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:55 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@212.241.11.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:58 < ButaTine> kanzure, you around? 07:10 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:13 -!- Aurelius_Laptop [~cpopell@107-136-117-108.lightspeed.jcvlfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:21 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:22 < kanzure> sup 07:22 < ButaTine> I pmed you. 07:25 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:26 < Aurelius_Laptop> kanzure : sup 07:28 < kanzure> Aurelius_Laptop: about to read all hplusroadmap logs. trying to figure out how i want to process the data. signal-noise scores, tags, tag weights, hyperlink anchors into the logs, etc. 07:28 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:29 -!- Taek42 is now known as Taek 07:29 < Aurelius_Laptop> Hm. Could you add a heat indicator type of thing? 07:29 < kanzure> i mean i am manually reading everything 07:30 < kanzure> so if you want "heat indicators" to be part of the output, i would need to be told how to score "heat" 07:31 < Aurelius_Laptop> I mean would it be possible to represent signal/noise score with a colored bar along the left/right side so when you re-skim you can rely on color perception instead of text reading? 07:33 < kanzure> yes, but with tagged conversations you wouldn't want to-- you would instead prefer to ust read everything tagged with "biotech" and "micropropulsion" or something. 07:33 < kanzure> *just read 07:40 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:45 < nsh> hmm 07:45 < nsh> so 07:46 < nsh> in my head this would play a bit like guitar hero or something, except instead of notes you have a bunch of buttons for tags and intereferencing/anchoring 07:47 < nsh> if you are able to vary the speed the text goes past in, that gives a constant rough proxy for infodensity 07:47 < nsh> -in 07:47 < nsh> *continuous 07:47 < kanzure> i was thinking something like mouse highlight multiple lines of text, then write down tags like neuroscience-0.01 for 0.01 out of 1 weight for relevance to neuroscience 07:48 < kanzure> (the existenceo f multiple tags assigned to an excerpt is not as useful as knowing the relative proportions of which tags are related) 07:48 < nsh> well 07:48 < nsh> numbers are hard to concoct consistently 07:49 < nsh> maybe if you select text, then input a list of tags, then have a star drawn and point to the centre of mass wrt to the tag points 07:49 < nsh> that way you can visually almost instantly give the relative weightings 07:49 < kanzure> well the weight is more like signal-to-noise for that particular tag 07:49 * nsh nods 07:49 < kanzure> i think i am doing this backwards 07:50 < kanzure> desired results: query hplusroadmap logs and get back super interesting things on a variety of topics 07:50 < kanzure> er, in particular, restricted to the thing you queried for 07:50 < kanzure> this data should be based on my manual anonotation 07:51 -!- jdqx__ [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:ad01:99b1:4271:b137] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:51 < kanzure> actually, other than querying, i would also be okay with just dumped output that sorts and identifies higher quality stuffs, like some sort of map 07:52 < kanzure> so i have vague notion that tags and tag scoring is somehow useful here but not sure how 07:52 < nsh> the question is what is the most meaningful data you can add as you sweep the corpus linearly with a tolerable overhead 07:52 -!- Aurelius_Laptop [~cpopell@107-136-117-108.lightspeed.jcvlfl.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:53 < nsh> and do you need to generate any ancillary structures as you progress 07:53 < kanzure> random example: all the "yashgaroth comments on dna synthesis enzyme plans" stuff is quite hard to find at the moment 07:53 < nsh> e.g. a conceptual graph 07:54 -!- Aurelius_Laptop [~cpopell@107-136-117-108.lightspeed.jcvlfl.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:54 < nsh> if so you need to have some reasonable consistent heuristic for what qualifies as a notable concept that can be linked to 07:54 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:54 -!- jdqx_ [~jdqx@108-201-65-149.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:54 -!- TeMPOraL [~temporal@temporal.superuser.org.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:54 < nsh> at the least you will have some set of tags 07:54 < nsh> and coreferences 07:56 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:58 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:07 -!- jdqx__ [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:ad01:99b1:4271:b137] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:07 -!- TeMPOraL [~temporal@temporal.superuser.org.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:08 -!- jdqx__ [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:ad01:99b1:4271:b137] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:09 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:18 < Aurelius_Laptop> Hmm 08:18 < Aurelius_Laptop> this isn't the hardest project, but it's still teaching me 08:24 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r190-134-123-235.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:26 -!- jdqx__ [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:ad01:99b1:4271:b137] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:27 -!- jdqx__ [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:ad01:99b1:4271:b137] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:42 < kanzure> Aurelius_Laptop: ? 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