--- Log opened Thu Dec 17 00:00:39 2015 00:07 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste] 00:08 -!- vicarion [~net@2001:388:608c:6cb5:b840:d31e:6e8d:7c1c] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.178.3.223] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:17 < Alcyius> I hate gbeing sick 00:17 < Alcyius> I just slept through wednesday 00:37 < FourFire> Hey regarding a book with enough information to reconstruct modern technological civilization with few surviving individuals, I think that would involve a rather large research project about tech trees, and I am somewhat doubtful that all such knowledge currently exists digitially anyway 00:37 < FourFire> stuff like > How to turn the kind of rock that looks like [this] into RAM 00:46 < FourFire> Greetings aurellem ! 00:46 < Alcyius> That seems like it'd be a massive project 00:46 < Alcyius> Isn't there a library of forever project trying to do that though? 00:48 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.178.3.223] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:21 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-barcwregqzkhjbxl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:24 -!- proofoflogic [sid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-csqdfumqegvojvfh] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:34 -!- Josh|NH4H [~quassel@botbot.xen.prgmr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:34 -!- maaku [~quassel@botbot.xen.prgmr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:35 -!- maaku is now known as Guest83522 01:36 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hjxcdsosvalvioag] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:46 -!- proofoflogic [sid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ppozrdtpepkfdkjp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:54 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:55 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:00 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:01 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:02 -!- superkuh [~superkuh@unaffiliated/superkuh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:07 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oywxemgnzotdlhhe] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 03:17 < FourFire> Alcyius, key is to only preserve that imformation which is required for the readers of the book to infer/ quickly discover the rest 03:22 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:25 < Alcyius> In that case, I'd give priority to advance farming techniques 03:25 < Alcyius> Followed by how to set up an industrial base and the beginnings of electronics 03:25 < Alcyius> WE achieved in 300 years more than in the past 3000 once the agricultural revolution hit 03:27 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:31 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-182-196-52.lns3.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:31 < ebowden> How do you invite people? 03:31 < ebowden> (I want to invite my brother.) 03:40 -!- abowden [~abowden3@CPE-124-182-196-52.lns3.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:40 < ebowden> Oh, derp. 03:41 < ebowden> It was a different channel that required invites. 03:41 < chris_99> heh 03:42 < ebowden> It was to keep the retards away. 03:42 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hjxcdsosvalvioag] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:43 < Alcyius> lol 03:43 < Alcyius> I was gonna say 03:43 < Alcyius> I just thought they needed to join the channel 03:44 < ebowden> Despite this, some still got in, despite the great creationist purge of 2012. 03:44 -!- proofoflogic [sid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ppozrdtpepkfdkjp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:45 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-guitourbqqrephxh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:45 < ebowden> For some reason creationists are always wanting to crash the biology channel. 03:49 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-guitourbqqrephxh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:55 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-drwniymebibmschk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:02 < streety> FourFire: as quickly as possible get to microscopes so you can write the last 100 years of technological development really small 04:03 < streety> testing some of those protocols could be really interesting 04:03 < FourFire> streety, sure. 04:03 < FourFire> or some form of electronic media which is easy to build an interface for 04:04 < FourFire> you can fit lot of text even just into 1GB 04:04 < streety> I'm not sure there is any electronic media with the same robustness, might be wrong though 04:05 < FourFire> streety, well you could intergrate, say redundant thin film memory into the structure of the book in question 04:05 < FourFire> or maybe even make the cover an e-reader 04:07 < ebowden> FourFire, streety, does this channel get trolls? 04:08 < streety> occasionally some seriously off topic content but I don't remember any ongoing issues with trolls 04:09 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-drwniymebibmschk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:09 < ebowden> I seem to recall some anti transhumanist people. 04:09 < streety> thin film memory could work, potentially both electronically and optically readable? 04:10 < abowden> I think there are some really good, dense new optical tapes about 04:10 < archels> I will never grasp the point of these "reconstruct all civilisation from scratch" books/efforts 04:10 < abowden> what are you trying to make? an archive of all humanities works? 04:11 < ebowden> That's not how you spell it. 04:13 -!- poppingtonic1 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:14 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:14 -!- poppingtonic1 is now known as poppingtonic 04:18 < streety> archels: development tends not to be a linear process, or even a unidirectional process. Securing a record of humanities greatest technological achievements may help speed the recovery from a technological reversal. Prevent technology being lost forever. 04:19 < streety> Also, in learning about what got us to where we are you can develop a deeper understanding of the technology enabling further discovery 04:23 < abowden> one data storage method I know works well as far as longevity and data density goes is quartz glass, if you want to store more than can reasonably store on microfils, hardrives etc 04:24 < abowden> something to keep in mind in your design, in preparation for whenever such technology becomes available to the consumer 04:24 < abowden> *microfilms 04:26 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-motlwbefqcvtcapy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:27 < archels> streety: it would be nice if the development of deeper understanding were driven by a future technological goal rather than just documenting the past 04:27 < archels> also the technological reversal argument is a little silly, because if all our technology and/or knowledge is destroyed then probably so will these guides 04:30 < ebowden> Aren't they trying to figure out a way to make information such as that more stable in storage? 04:31 < abowden> archels why does every last scrap of technology have to be destroyed for such a guide/archive to be valuable? 04:33 -!- proofoflogic [sid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vijzerlrxhjiuhnk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:34 < abowden> I don´t get it. 04:36 < archels> yes, a great deal would have to be destroyed before such a guide could be valuable 04:36 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:37 < archels> for the actual purpose of rebuilding 04:37 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:39 < abowden> if even 20% was gone, it would still be valuable to have a means of getting it back 04:39 < abowden> so you don´t have to build it all again from the ground up 04:39 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:40 < abowden> you can just search the database to find out what yo uneed to know 04:40 < archels> it's already pretty well documented how to rebuild this 20% from whatever remains 04:41 < archels> what are you going to do, describe how to build every last human artefact from raw natural resources? what's the point spending all the time and energy? 04:41 < abowden> documented where? 04:41 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xjognapsetrdyidn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:41 < archels> there's books on how to make stuff. lots of books 04:41 < abowden> is it all in one place? 04:42 < archels> planet Earth? 04:42 < abowden> streety, am I correct in presuming this a doomsday provision? 04:44 < streety> I'm not sure what FourFire had in mind but I don't think it needs to assume a doomsday event 04:44 < archels> it's probably more decentralised now than it would be if it were all wrapped up in a single guide 04:45 < abowden> centralising it would be a good thing, ince it would make it a lot easier to access. 04:46 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:47 < archels> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb0ayifhuZw 04:47 < archels> .title 04:47 < yoleaux> David Prutchi: Construction of Imaging Polarimetric Cameras for Humanitarian Demining - YouTube 04:48 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:48 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:53 -!- gilbertis [~zimia@c-71-225-244-34.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:53 -!- gilbertis [~zimia@c-71-225-244-34.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:53 -!- gilbertis [~zimia@c-71-225-244-34.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:55 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:56 -!- gilbertis [~zimia@c-71-225-244-34.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:56 -!- gilbertis [~jonessis@c-71-225-244-34.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:56 -!- gilbertis [~jonessis@c-71-225-244-34.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 05:02 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-motlwbefqcvtcapy] has quit [] 05:03 -!- nickjohnson_ [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qfswtxsamnbkzhdm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:18 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:18 -!- proofoflogic [sid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vijzerlrxhjiuhnk] has quit [] 05:18 -!- proofoflogic [sid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rfycsqoiwgukecct] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:24 -!- proofoflogic_ [sid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qqcvtgbybvmnzdxr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:28 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-182-196-52.lns3.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:42 < Diablo-D3> http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2015/151208/ncomms9997/full/ncomms9997.html 05:42 < Diablo-D3> .title 05:42 < yoleaux> EPPS rescues hippocampus-dependent cognitive deficits in APP/PS1 mice by disaggregation of amyloid-[beta] oligomers and plaques : Nature Communications : Nature Publishing Group 05:53 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:01 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:04 -!- Guest83522 is now known as maaku 06:12 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:19 -!- Bakkot [~Bakkot@prime-mover.stanford.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:26 -!- Bakkot [~Bakkot@prime-mover.stanford.edu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:27 < FourFire> I will never grasp the point of these "reconstruct all civilisation from scratch" books/efforts 06:28 < FourFire> Not all of civilizatio, just whatever very useful technology suddenly gets lost postapocalypse, if, say 90% of humanity dies out suddenly, you're going to be missing parts of the specialist toolchan 06:28 < FourFire> toolchain* 06:30 < FourFire> abowden, which biology channel is this, do they do/discuss anything bioinformatics related? 06:31 < archels> like all the telephone sanitisers and hairdressers suddenly dying out at once, right 06:32 < FourFire> archels, you just need to kill off enough people for the survivors to have a hard time locating specific knowledge/records to rebuild/keep running advanced technology 06:32 < FourFire> what is the us factor for, say, samsung, or intel, or NASA for that matter? 06:33 < FourFire> archels, my propsition is to build specialized hardened structures which could survive most apocalyptic events which would kill most humans (probably underground bunkers) 06:38 < FourFire> archels, do you consider telephone sanitization and/or hairdressing to be "very useful technologies" ? 06:38 < kanzure> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3x7mrr/gmaxwell_unullc_no_longer_a_bitcoin_committer_on/ 06:43 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:44 < archels> FourFire: I was being sarcastic (cf. HHGG) 06:44 < archels> I have no qualms with storing data in a hardened structure so that it survives for a long time 06:45 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has quit [Client Quit] 06:45 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@eru200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:45 < archels> my argument was against the effort involved in making a sort of massive "re-engineering civilisation for dummies" volume 06:45 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:46 -!- Gurkenglas_ [Gurkenglas@188.103.77.131] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:49 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xjognapsetrdyidn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:50 < sandeepkr> any suggestions for a good circuit to measure galvanic skin response 06:50 < sandeepkr> i have seen this one 06:50 < sandeepkr> https://courses.cit.cornell.edu/ee476/FinalProjects/s2006/hmm32_pjw32/#SHDesign 06:50 < sandeepkr> but they have nowhere mentioned how they selected the values for the potentiometer 06:51 < sandeepkr> ***sorry the value of resistors for wheatstone bridge 06:52 < Diablo-D3> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/neuroskeptic/2015/12/17/the-case-of-the-bishop-brain/ 06:52 < FourFire> archels, of course: I don't expect covilization to die, it's not work my time 06:52 < Diablo-D3> sandeepkr: why are you looking to use galvanic skin response? I thought that was very inaccurate 06:53 < sandeepkr> Diablo-D3, just for some educational purpose.but dont want to follow the circuit blindly 06:54 < Diablo-D3> ahh 06:55 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmawcrsquszxcxfv] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:56 < sandeepkr> Diablo-D3, btw inaccurate in what sense ?? i dont plan to measure anything specific. just want to try it out. i already have a data logger. 06:56 < archels> FourFire: or anyone's, imho 06:57 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lmpztopskgnhxenh] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:57 < Diablo-D3> sandeepkr: if you're under or over hydrated, it can change results dramatically 06:57 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:57 < Diablo-D3> sandeepkr: theres a list of stuff that basically makes it a bit hokey 06:57 < sandeepkr> Diablo-D3, right.but there will still be a variation. 06:57 < Diablo-D3> which sucks because a ton of sports watches now have that built in 06:57 < sandeepkr> like what else? 06:58 < Diablo-D3> sandeepkr: sweating also seems to piss them off 06:58 < Diablo-D3> which, again, common component of a lot of _sports_ watches 06:58 < FourFire> sandeepkr, interested in statistical techniques you have for masuring variation, I'm looking to messing around with low quality eeg signals quite soon 06:59 < sandeepkr> Diablo-D3, im not trying to find out anything specific.just want to try it out. 06:59 < Diablo-D3> ahh 06:59 * Diablo-D3 goes back to wishing someday a watch one suck ;( 07:00 < Diablo-D3> ms band 2, so close, sooooo close 07:00 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:00 < sandeepkr> Diablo-D3, do you have any clue how the guys in the link i posted above slected the values of resistors for the wheatstone bridge 07:00 < Diablo-D3> sandeepkr: that I can't tell you 07:00 < Diablo-D3> I've never built one 07:00 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kwjtalkihaycxjno] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:01 < sandeepkr> FourFire, i have been working on a high speed datalogger.have bindings for python. 07:01 < sandeepkr> around 100ksps 07:01 -!- proofoflogic_ [sid65184@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qqcvtgbybvmnzdxr] has quit [] 07:02 < Diablo-D3> kilo whats per second? 07:02 < sandeepkr> FourFire, i dint get actually what you were trying to say about staistical techniques 07:02 < sandeepkr> Diablo-D3, funny where did you see the W in there ? its kilo samples per second 07:03 < Diablo-D3> thats what I was asking 07:03 < Diablo-D3> I said what, not watt =P 07:16 < kanzure> didn't we ban you 07:17 < Diablo-D3> no? 07:17 < Diablo-D3> and why would you do that? 07:18 -!- abowden [~abowden3@CPE-124-182-196-52.lns3.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:18 < FourFire> sandeepkr, well with the galvanic response, a temperature change would lead to readings which were all skewed to some extent during the period of time following the temperatue change. 07:19 < FourFire> how do you account for this 07:19 < FourFire> because the readings will still contain the data you want, 07:20 < FourFire> you just have to be able to interpret a higher average and median of reads for a given period of time as a shift in the zero point 07:23 < sandeepkr> FourFire, do you think it will be problem in a living room? 07:23 < sandeepkr> the temp change 07:24 < FourFire> sandeepkr, temperature difference is only one example of such a drift 07:24 < FourFire> cause* 07:24 < FourFire> you'll want to be reading some of the other possible causes but not all of them, I suppose 07:25 < sandeepkr> FourFire,right.that can be be done. 07:25 < sandeepkr> i can easily attach other sensors for that. 07:26 < sandeepkr> but right now, im just curious about taking some reading. 07:38 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:41 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@eru200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:44 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@eru200.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:44 < Alcyius> I think the biggest issue for such an "Ark" project 07:44 < Alcyius> Is the language barrier 07:44 < Alcyius> You have no guarantee that whoever finds it will speak ANY modern day language, let alone the one its in 07:45 < Alcyius> Which I guess you could solve by having all the data be stored pictographically 07:45 < Alcyius> Or by having a Rosetta stone type thing, with a version in every modern language 07:53 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:2dd0:9faa:5ad:6f12] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:53 < kanzure> tech tree is a far more critical problem than that. 07:53 < kanzure> tech tree can be made like vlsi where large-scale plans can be used without having someone read a million billion pages of documentation 07:57 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:58 < kanzure> hmm i appreciate that yoleaux replaced "β" with "[beta]" earlier today 08:01 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:03 < kanzure> http://mathbabe.org/2015/12/15/notes-on-the-oxford-iut-workshop-by-brian-conrad/ 08:03 < kanzure> this is re: http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/Inter-universal%20Teichmuller%20Theory%20I.pdf 08:04 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:05 < JayDugger> Isn't that the Japanese mathematician Ted Nelson thinks is Satoshi Nakamoto? 08:08 < JayDugger> Yup, same guy. 08:09 < pasky> .title http://www.nature.com/articles/srep18087 08:09 < yoleaux> A single-nucleotide exon found in Arabidopsis : Scientific Reports 08:10 < pasky> heh, understanding dna is really hard 08:43 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@194.152.36.129] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:45 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@194.152.36.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:50 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nidwscirychxmujg] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:16 -!- aurellem [~user@c-50-174-221-212.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:37 -!- Viper168 [~Viper@unaffiliated/viper168] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:40 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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I used two different sig databases, and one says 100% chance that it is a dBase database file... the other says 50% that file, 50% a MapInfo file 10:16 < nmz787_i> I haven't been able to get anywhere with linux tools like dbf2csv (or is it dbfdump?) or the dbfread python library 10:16 < kanzure> try using the `file` tool 10:17 < kanzure> also when in doubt just look at the raw data: hexdump -C myfile.blah 10:17 < nmz787_i> not sure what to do now aside from some bioinformatics type approaches... look for repeats (maybe headers in sections of the file) 10:17 < kanzure> or er, hexdump -C myfile.blah | less 10:17 < nmz787_i> yeah file just says 'data' 10:17 < nmz787_i> cat shows some strings, xxd isn't terribly more interesting 10:17 < nmz787_i> idk if hexdump -C is any diff than xxd 10:18 < kanzure> to see strings just use the `strings` tool instead 10:18 < nmz787_i> my hope is that the file actually consists of multiple compressed files or something, with headers and some ASCII in between 10:18 < nmz787_i> and my hope is also that the compressed files unzip to yield ASCII text files 10:18 < kanzure> a-cortesi wrote some interesting binary data file visualization tools which are helpful for figuring out weird data formats 10:19 < nmz787_i> oh, hmm, I wonder if I saw a talk on that recently 10:20 < kanzure> no that was anothe rdude 10:20 < kanzure> ... another dude. 10:20 < kanzure> (cantor dust) 10:22 < nmz787_i> i remember some 80s hacker-movie style GUI, with 3D visualizations, and the person rotated the cube and maybe hid some layers and could see bitmap data in some section of the image 10:23 < nmz787_i> yeah cantor dust seems more like what I remember 10:24 < kanzure> yes but cortesi is the one who wrote some lightweight software to do the same thing 10:25 < kanzure> http://binvis.io/ 10:25 < nmz787_i> and it appears cantor.dust isn't available 10:25 < nmz787_i> this seems to be a take on cantor.dust as well: https://github.com/wapiflapi/binglide 10:28 < xrr> If the bytes look like /dev/urandom, I'd guess it's packed or crypted 10:29 < xrr> So perhaps it would get you somewhere to find a large block of random looking bytes and try to figure out any header in front of the block 10:33 < nmz787_i> binwalk shows a bunch of files paths which match the extensions of the ASCII strings I could discern (since I know what some of the CAD text files look like already) 10:34 < nmz787_i> but I don't see it mention anything compressed... though the tool depends on pylzma... so maybe it did decompression itself 10:34 < nmz787_i> need to try binvis too 10:35 < nmz787_i> it also lists a bunch of DER certificates (x.509) 10:36 < nmz787_i> but I'm not sure if that is interesting or not (some leaked keys or something???)... maybe mis-detection 10:40 < nmz787_i> huh binvi.io is some kind of client-side web app 10:41 < nmz787_i> hmm, it reports the file has high entropy in most areas 10:45 < nmz787_i> if anyone wants to look too, download the middle file (.brd) here http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/intel-galileo-boards/000005980.html 10:50 < xrr> I'm failing to find any region that actually looks like packed. Too many 0x00-s everywhere 10:51 -!- CautiousNarwhal [ad03d8c6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.173.3.216.198] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:57 < nmz787_i> yeah... I wonder if the encoding mixes ASCII with number data or something 10:58 < nmz787_i> since this is a PCB layout, I am looking for coordinates of line points or something 11:03 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10751396 11:03 < yoleaux> There's Math.random(), and then there's Math.random() | Hacker News 11:07 < xrr> So this is a proprietary format of Cadence Allegro right? Perhaps it can export 11:12 < nmz787_i> yeah I don't want to go the export route just yet 11:12 < nmz787_i> since then you'd need that software to get any existing .brd files that are online already 11:12 < nmz787_i> and maybe that's against their license terms or something 11:23 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-205-167-132.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:32 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-23-20-129-209.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:58 -!- triggerwarning [~triggerwa@2601:681:500:165a:7d37:1f54:9a70:6b63] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:03 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-103-113.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:12 -!- c0rw|zZz is now known as c0rw1n 12:20 -!- aurellem [~user@c-50-174-221-212.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:21 < kanzure> aurellem: there were some questions from docl in the backlog (around 21:15 in the logs) http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-12-16.log was wondering if you could look 12:22 < aurellem> ok 12:24 < aurellem> docl asked about the "paramagnetic" CPA idea -- yes it's the magnetocaloric effet 12:24 < aurellem> *effect 12:24 < aurellem> and unfortunately, yes you can only get like 0.1°C out of it 12:25 < aurellem> it would be neat if you could get something like 15°C instead, because the magnetocaloric effect is one of the only things I know of that bypasses the surface area / volume problems of tradational organ cooling. It's also about as "instantaneous" as you can get 12:26 < docl> it can't be boosted by ultra high tesla fields? 12:26 < aurellem> I believe that it's a property of how much wider you make the state space of the system by turning off the field 12:27 < aurellem> so you need the right sort of system 12:27 < aurellem> and the best ones only get like 0.1°C right now 12:30 < fenn> the cells alive system doesn't seem to use the magnetocaloric effect 12:31 < fenn> it depends on low strength alternating magnetic fields to prevent crystal nucleation 12:36 < aurellem> I don't think that the cells alive system actually works 12:37 < aurellem> their paper should have tested the CAS system with the field on vs off 12:37 < kanzure> what's the reference for breaking gaussian barrier 12:37 < aurellem> but instead it tested the CAS system with the field on vs a tradational bio freezer 12:37 < aurellem> if anyone has any actually good data on the CAS system I'd really like to see it 12:38 < aurellem> see for example http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011224012000284 12:39 < aurellem> as far as I know there's not anything out there that gives clear evidence that CAS works 12:41 < kanzure> .title 12:41 < yoleaux> Electric and magnetic fields in cryopreservation 12:44 -!- triggerwarning [~triggerwa@2601:681:500:165a:7d37:1f54:9a70:6b63] has quit [Changing host] 12:44 -!- triggerwarning [~triggerwa@unaffiliated/triggerwarning] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 -!- triggerwarning [~triggerwa@unaffiliated/triggerwarning] has quit [Changing host] 12:44 -!- triggerwarning [~triggerwa@2601:681:500:165a:7d37:1f54:9a70:6b63] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:45 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:57 -!- jron [~okok@unaffiliated/jron] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:59 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:00 < docl> kanzure: here's the free link http://www.21cmpublications.com/PubFiles/89/2012-ElectricandMagnetic.pdf 13:12 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:13 < nmz787_i> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/dracos-may-be-effective-against-all-viruses 13:15 < bjonnh> bs 13:17 < nmz787_i> .title http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011224013004288 13:17 < docl> aurellem: can you comment on this? (Ben Best mentioning something he heard at a conference) http://www.evidencebasedcryonics.org/2009/09/13/the-2009-sens-conference/ 13:17 < docl> Dr. Kletetschka’s approach is based on the idea that if a cryonics patient were perfused with a solution containing gadolinium (nanoparticles would be best), an entire vitrified brain could be cooled uniformly by the magnetocaloric effect. 13:17 < yoleaux> A ferromagnetic model for the action of electric and magnetic fields in cryopreservation 13:18 < docl> it sounds to me like maybe Ben misunderstood, or Gunther was being wildly optimistic. 13:19 < fenn> yes, cooled uniformly by 0.1C 13:24 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:27 < sandeepkr> hi kanzure 13:28 < docl> I wonder if some specific kinds of nanoparticle would exhibit the effect at a higher level. more state space to expand into. 13:29 < fenn> why would nanoparticles be better? 13:29 < kanzure> sandeepkr: yes? 13:30 < sandeepkr> kanzure, there used to be a guy by the name of thomas egi on this and DIYBIO channel. 13:30 < kanzure> indeed 13:30 < sandeepkr> kanzure, is he not coming now a days?? 13:31 < kanzure> last seen 2015-08-19 13:31 < kanzure> last message 2015-06-20 13:31 < sandeepkr> kanzure, okay thanks.wanted to know some thing about his project. 13:33 < docl> fenn: for surface area reasons, or specific shape/size affecting crystaline properties of some kind 13:37 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r167-56-103-113.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:42 < fenn> found this while stalking thomasegi: http://home.arcor.de/positiveelectron/files/biohackflowchart.pdf 13:43 < Alcyius> Heh 13:43 < Alcyius> The ahole who jacked up the toxoplasmosis drug price got arrested for fed security fraud 13:44 < fenn> that's like a rite of passage in his social circles 13:44 < Alcyius> Yeah fair enough 13:44 < kanzure> i suspect that the system design is mostly to blame not for individuals acting in their interest... 13:44 < kanzure> i'm sure he's an asshole but that's irrelevant 13:45 < Alcyius> The medical system shouldn't be composed of people "acting in their own interest" when it comes to people's lives 13:45 < kanzure> we are still lacking a comprehensive pharmaceutical funding pipeline reform plan; lotta "innovation health prize funds" have been proposed but there's a bunch of trouble at the intersection of venture capital and health funds and patents and biotech and medicine.. 13:46 < fenn> i would settle for something that just got the research results we already have into clinical practice 13:46 < fenn> i don't think "pharmaceutical funding" is the problem 13:46 -!- jdqx [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:acb5:f56c:6bb4:104d] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:47 < kanzure> "nobody is going to spend $200M on this if they can't recoup their costs" is the common argument 13:47 -!- jdqx [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:f8bb:90c1:43e7:3b73] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 < fenn> pharmaceuticals are what is being funded because that's what VC's can make money on, patentable mass-produced small molecules 13:47 < fenn> the artificially high barriers to certifying a new type of medical treatment are what is the problem 13:48 < fenn> only pharmaceuticals have enough funding behind them to jump that barrier 13:48 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pfuwrdovqycknfnp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 < kanzure> yes would be helpful if basic research costs were not high 13:49 < fenn> it's not even the research costs, it's the clinical trials costs 13:49 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vmawcrsquszxcxfv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:49 < kanzure> health insurance? underwriting? 13:49 < Alcyius> And again, I really don't think that "recouping $200m" should be the goal when it comes to saving peoples lives. I get that our current system makes it impossible for anyone but major pharma corps to research new drugs, but maybe the whole profit motivation isn't the best way to do it here 13:50 < kanzure> what does that have to do with condemning him as an asshole? 13:50 < Alcyius> I mean, he's an asshole regardless, that was just a critique of our medical research establishment in general 13:50 < kanzure> also, that seems contrary to "people shouldn't be acting in their interests" 13:51 < kanzure> health is definitely in my own interest. so..... 13:51 * kanzure goes away confused 13:51 < Alcyius> More, it shouldn't be up to the private sector to research live-saving medical treatment 13:51 < Alcyius> I mean, by all means they CAN, but there needs to be something more 13:51 < Alcyius> Though I don't trust the government as it is 13:52 < Alcyius> But yeah, the clinical trial and research costs are the biggest barrier 13:53 < kanzure> today is not a good day 13:53 < Alcyius> Meh 13:53 < Alcyius> Sorry I'm not being clear, I'm a bit distracted atm 14:00 -!- atomical [~atomical@li669-27.members.linode.com] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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with the materials that Best is talking about 18:16 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:17 < aurellem> like with REALLY strong magnets and undre ideal conditions, you MIGHT get 1°C, and that's really stretching it 18:17 < aurellem> work out the math and see what you get 18:27 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ery254.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:37 -!- Act [uid89656@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kgvunawahmyomdgj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:13 -!- aurellem [~user@c-50-174-221-212.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:26 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ery254.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:27 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ery254.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:27 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:28 < docl> still trying to grok the math, had to look up the curly d symbol (and here fenn thinks calculus is useless :P) 19:31 < docl> and today I learned the reason I could never put my finger on what greek letter that was, apparently, is because it isn't a greek letter at all, just some french guy's weird cursive version of a d 19:31 < fenn> it's a lowercase delta 19:31 -!- atomical [~atomical@209.153.22.182] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 19:32 < docl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%88%82 this one 19:33 < docl> compare to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_%28letter%29#Lower_case 19:34 < fenn> oh the first one hooks over to the left instead of the right 19:34 < fenn> i've seen it both ways 19:38 < docl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_symbols refers to the left hook one as rounded d. it redirects from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounded_d to the unpronounceable unicode link above. 19:39 < docl> right hook one is functional derivative. left hook (rounded d) is partial derivative. 19:48 -!- arc3v1l [~arc3v1l@199.19.95.188] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:53 -!- arc3v1l [~arc3v1l@199.19.95.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:17 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pfuwrdovqycknfnp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:21 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:36 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@194.152.36.162] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:36 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ery254.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:49 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kfavxkophloemayf] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:00 -!- Fed_eralReserve [~Shruk@c-73-4-197-123.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:01 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kwjtalkihaycxjno] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:09 -!- panax [~panax@pool-72-91-154-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:10 -!- panax [~panax@pool-72-91-154-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:37 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:48 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hdhanwwsbkjldcqj] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:49 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-182-196-52.lns3.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:04 -!- btcdrak [uid115429@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gutzygalpypzlzmu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:07 < kanzure> good movie. was fun. 22:12 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:13 -!- Fed_eralReserve [~Shruk@c-73-4-197-123.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:26 < nmz787_i> that star related movie? 22:36 < Diablo-D3> http://www.cc.gatech.edu/georgia-tech-researchers-demonstrate-how-brain-can-handle-so-much-data 22:39 -!- andytoshi [~andytoshi@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:41 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-idvizwietkrdervm] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:45 -!- Fed_eralReserve [~Shruk@c-73-4-197-123.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:48 -!- Fed_eralReserve [~Shruk@2601:19a:4201:f801:c901:e56d:1643:d53a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:53 -!- Fed_eralReserve [~Shruk@2601:19a:4201:f801:c901:e56d:1643:d53a] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:07 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-182-196-52.lns3.dav.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:09 -!- Fed_eralReserve [~Shruk@cpe-72-231-210-59.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:18 -!- gaydude [c9f65d8f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.201.246.93.143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:23 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-124-182-196-52.lns3.dav.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:26 -!- panax [~panax@pool-72-91-154-76.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Log closed Fri Dec 18 00:00:40 2015