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02:38 < diginet> does anyone here have access to Wiley journals?
02:44 < Jawmare> diginet, yes
02:44 < Jawmare> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1l9G5TDDwNJrm5QDbNPw7vE7jDaAXwPYC5s_olnvzBQs/viewform
02:44 < Jawmare> or just link it here
02:45 < diginet> Jawmare: oh thanks
02:45 < diginet> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/3527600035.bpol8004/abstract
02:46 < diginet> well, I sent it before I saw that
02:46 < Jawmare> how do you want your paper?
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02:47 < diginet> Jawmare: email would be nice
02:50 < Jawmare> diginet, I don't have access to that article
02:50 < Jawmare> however I have access to Biopolymers
02:50 < diginet> weeeeirrrddd
02:51 < diginet> I wonder why that article would be restricted
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02:53 < Jawmare> it is actually a book
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07:12 < kanzure> "Encoding of movement fragments in the motor cortex" http://www.jneurosci.org/content/27/19/5105
07:12 < kanzure> "Previous studies have suggested that complex movements can be elicited by electrical stimulation of the motor cortex. Most recording studies in the motor cortex, however, have investigated the encoding of time-independent features of movement such as direction, velocity, position, or force. Here, we show that single motor cortical neurons encode temporally evolving movement trajectories and not simply instantaneous movement parameters. "
07:17 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Selection%20of%20cortical%20dynamics%20for%20motor%20behaviour%20by%20the%20basal%20ganglia.pdf
07:17 < kanzure> figure 2 is interesting (basal ganglia organization and interaction with thalamic and cortical layers) http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Selection%20of%20cortical%20dynamics%20for%20motor%20behaviour%20by%20the%20basal%20ganglia.pdf.basal-ganglia-organization.figure-2.png
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07:26 < kanzure> why am i not seeing any written hypothesis about the generation of smooth movement requiring large amounts of separately temporally-close spiking populations of neurons
07:35 < kanzure> "Emergence of complex computational structures from chaotic neural networks through reward-modulated Hebbian learning" http://www.igi.tugraz.at/legi/psfiles/214.pdf
07:36 < kanzure> "Spatiotemporal memory is an intrinsic property of networks of dissociated cortical neurons.
07:37 < kanzure> grr
07:37 < kanzure> "Spatiotemporal memory is an intrinsic property of networks of dissociated cortical neurons" http://people.duke.edu/~av8/vandongen_lab/pdf%20files/Ju%20Han%20-%20Spatiotemporal%20classification%202015.pdf
07:50 < kanzure> "The nucleus accumbens as a nexus between values and goals in goal-directed behavior: a review and a new hypothesis" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3805952/
07:51 < kanzure> "Uncertainty-based competition between prefrontal and dorsolateral striatal systems for behavioral control" http://www-all.cs.umass.edu/~barto/Daw-Niv-Dyan-05.pdf
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08:38 < heath> patents and the regress of useful arts http://stlr.org/download/volumes/volume10/Torrance.pdf
08:38 < heath> thanks kanz
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09:32 < FourFire> hmm my connection seems to suddenly be unstable for some reason, kanzure have you looked into https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimonabant ?
09:34 < FourFire> if the side effects are only "severe depression" and "suicidal thoughts", then I could totally try it out and stop whenever life started feeling bad
09:49 < fenn> what could possibly go wrong
09:50 < FourFire> fenn, well ideally, I'd have someone I know check up on me
09:50 < FourFire> I've overcome depression once before
09:54 < heath> https://plus.google.com/u/1/+EthanChew/posts/6kZfYD3SLCW "
09:54 < heath> Happy New Year!  One week to the 1/8/16 California International Spaceports Network global call on space communications for spaceports.
09:54 < heath> We will be having a presentation on technologies and business models and a discussion with a panel of space communications experts.
09:54 < heath> Come learn and discuss how space communications can serve your spaceport."
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10:01 < heath> first time i've seen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_Liquid_Interface_Production was today watching this ted talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihR9SX7dgRo
10:01 < heath> .title
10:01 < yoleaux> What If 3D Printing Was 100x Faster? | Joseph DeSimone | TED Talks - YouTube
10:02 < FourFire> heath yeah the hackerspace I go to sometimes has oneo f those
10:03 < FourFire> pretty cool, print speed isn't limited by how fast a pronter head can move, as you have a UV light projector
10:05 < chris_99> are they even selling them yet?
10:05 < FourFire> I'll have to print something out using it...
10:06 < FourFire> I don't reallyh ave a use for anything just now though...
10:06 < chris_99> are you talking about carbon3d or something else
10:06 < FourFire> UV resin 3d printer
10:07 < FourFire> not sure on the specific model
10:07 < chris_99> what heath linked to is a patented process
10:07 < FourFire> the laws of physics don't care about patents...
10:07 < chris_99> i mean it's not the same as what you're talking about..
10:10 < fenn> supposedly you don't need super special unobtanium membrane material just to get a sharp oxygen gradient
10:11 < FourFire> the one at the hackerspace looks most like this: http://cnet3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/07/20/df8c72f9-14e4-4229-be8d-cd3f8a20fecc/thumbnail/770x433/d0e7f433b3e0b2712cf60481f4881d62/xyz-printing-8664-001.jpg
10:11 < FourFire> except the red anti UV plastic is inverted, and the projector is mounted inside a PC case
10:12 < fenn> why did you even link to a picture of a completely different printer
10:12 < chris_99> fenn, interesting, how else could you do the O2 stuff?
10:12 < fenn> dunno, ask captainhindsight for the details
10:13 < fenn> see gnusha.org/logs/2015-03-19.log
10:14 < chris_99> cheers
10:14 < fenn> 17:05
10:14 < chris_99> interesting
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10:42 < heath> oh, anyone here in colorado? i'll be moving to just south of Denver Thursday
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10:51 < kanzure> maybe my brother
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11:13 < kanzure> python-based tmux clone https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10831149 https://github.com/jonathanslenders/pymux
11:13 < kanzure> "Cryptographic assumptions: a position paper" http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/907.pdf
11:13 < kanzure> "A guide to fully homomorphic encryption" http://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1192.pdf
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13:55 < kanzure> "Targeted single-neuron infection with rabies virus for transneuronal multisynaptic tracing" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3429795/
13:57 < kanzure> "Journal of Neuroscience Methods" http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/01650270
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16:51 < AtlasRisen> hey mates
16:52 < kanzure> yes?
16:53 < AtlasRisen> what exactly is this IRC for
16:53 < AtlasRisen> I been at the nootropics one and headfirst
16:53 < AtlasRisen> So curious what this one is about
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18:12 < CautiousNarwhal> what do you guys think about ethereum? curious
18:13 < xentrac> AtlasRisen: figuring out how to transcend the limitations of human nature
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18:14 < xentrac> or rather, figuring out how to figure out to
18:18 < kanzure> CautiousNarwhal: i think they would be more productive working with the bitcoin developers.
18:20 < CautiousNarwhal> kanzure but satoshi nagamoto is anonymous, his identity hasnt been revealed. I do agree that they need help though
18:21 < CautiousNarwhal> cause ive been thinking of ethereum being a good environment for biohacking technology
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18:28 < AdrianG> kanzure: how would they be more productive?
18:28 < AdrianG> vitalik wanted to do things bitcoin could never do.
18:30 < kanzure> CautiousNarwhal: i have no idea why you are bringing up satoshi. what?
18:30 < kanzure> AdrianG: bitcoin can do those things just fine through sidechains. he started working on ethereum prior to sidechains were widely popularized, but tiernolan proposed auxiliary blocks many years ago on bitcointalk.org so.....
18:32 < AdrianG> kanzure: how would he be more productive tho?
18:34 < kanzure> there are more bitcoin developers than ethereum developers. more experience. lotta smart bitcoin developers hanging around. hard to be productive when you are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
18:35 < CautiousNarwhal> i see, to work with like coinbase or something?
18:35 < jrayhawk> Bitcoin is also the most robust blockchain network and thus store of value; sidechaining that value gives you a much safer minimum value for people buying into the network.
18:38 < jrayhawk> When an alternate blockchain technology refuses to use the existing most-robust network, I generally take it as a sign of rent-seeking.
18:39 < jrayhawk> XCP did the next-best thing, which was to publicly burn bitcoin to establish value. That was pre-sidechain; I am pretty sure they would use sidechains now.
18:40 < jrayhawk> Various opcodes get proposed and integrated into bitcoin script, though, so it's not like you necessarily need to fork bitcoin to get improvements in.
18:41 < jrayhawk> Turing-completeness will definitely be an uphill battle, though.
18:47 < AtlasRisen> xanah okay, thank you
18:50 < kanzure> sidechain also lets you expeirment more safely without disrupting bitcoin-actual
18:51 < CautiousNarwhal> but there is also the virtual machine component of it.
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18:57 < jrayhawk> Yeah, I wouldn't expect anything turing-complete to make it onto the main chain. The halting problem is just too big a can of worms.
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18:58 < jrayhawk> But, again, there's not a lot of inherent reason to care about the main chain for anything other than pegging value.
19:00 < CautiousNarwhal> i was thinking blockchain tech could be very useful in biohacking, and i thought ETH to be the best one... i guess i should just pay attention to bitcoin.
19:00 < CautiousNarwhal> there is also rootstock
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19:42 < justanotheruser> CautiousNarwhal: no
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20:09 < kanzure> "Two-photon single-cell optogenetic control of neuronal activity by sculpted light" http://www.pnas.org/content/107/26/11981.short
20:10 < kanzure> "Furthermore, we demonstrated selective activation of cellular compartments, such as dendrites and large presynaptic terminals, at depths up to 150 μm. The demonstrated spatiotemporal resolution and the selectivity provided by TEFO allow manipulation of neuronal activity, with a large number of applications in studies of neuronal microcircuit function in vitro and in vivo."
20:11 < kanzure> "Optical dissection of brain circuits with patterned illumination through the phase modulation of light" https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Tommaso_Fellin/publication/269719987_Optical_dissection_of_brain_circuits_with_patterned_illumination_through_the_phase_modulation_of_light/links/54b793410cf24eb34f6eb93f.pdf
20:14 < kanzure> "Simultaneous all-optical manipulation and recording of neural circuit activity with cellular resolution in vivo" http://www.dendrites.org/s/PackerRussellDalgleishHausser_NMeth2014.pdf
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20:23 < kanzure> "Flexible parylene-film optical waveguide arrays" http://www.int.ee.tut.ac.jp/icg/member/takekawano/publication/2015%20Yamagiwa_Flexible%20parylene%20film%20optical%20waveguide%20arrays.pdf
20:23 < kanzure> follow-up http://www.mdpi.com/1424-8220/15/12/29885/htm
20:27 < kanzure> boyden says patch clamp can do reporting on single ion channel current
20:28 < kanzure> in http://pbl.gatech.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/jn.00629.2014.full_.pdf ("Microchip amplifier for in vitro, in vivo, and automated whole-cell patch-clamp recording")
20:36 < kanzure> "Specification of synaptic connectivity by cell surface interactions" https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Joris_Wit/publication/286539543_Specification_of_synaptic_connectivity_by_cell_surface_interactions/links/5673d86c08aee7a427459086.pdf
20:37 < kanzure> is review of stuff like  cadherins, protocadherins and neurexins
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20:40 < kanzure> "Architecture of the cerebral cortical association connectome underlying cognition" http://www.pnas.org/content/112/16/E2093.full.pdf?with-ds=yes
20:46 < kanzure> bunch of the papers citing CLARITY (like the CUBIC paper) have some neat diagrams.
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