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Their work was well-planned and carried out and does offer compelling evidence for the dominance of systemic effects at an organism level over those of the cellular niche or cellular level. 07:21 < kanzure> However, given the fact that the work was carried out on mTerc-/- mice, and that mice have quite different telomere lengths to humans, (and therefore possibly different mechanisms involved) I think it is very premature to suggest that equivalent effects would be possible in humans. I think it is drawing a very long bow indeed. I would be delighted if someone could extend this work to higher organisms or perhaps, by manipulation of the ... 07:22 < kanzure> ... systemic environment, to humans. Until then, your oft-repeated mantra: "heterochronic transplantation of tissues and organs in mammals show rejuvenation of the old tissue/organ in the young body." should be amended to include "in a telomere-deficient mouse model". 07:23 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:50 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:50 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:58 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:58 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:01 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:20 < nmz787> so if I etch a channel in silicon, and want to fill in the etched voids with something that can dissolve or be cleaned easily later (sugar crystal, wax maybe), so I can then do chemical-mechanical-planarization, deposit more silicon/silica on top and repeat the etch/fill/grow process... anyone know a good filler material? 08:21 < nmz787> I have my doubts that sugar would be fast and/or hold up in the later silica deposition process, and wax I'm unsure would come out completely later without lots of heat and rinsing with solvent 08:21 < nmz787> also sugar and wax have quite different hydrophobicity 08:45 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:56 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mtlwzvyoyhozarvz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:06 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:09 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:34 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:38 < docl> gelatin maybe? 09:45 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste] 09:50 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofjvkwaminddefzn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:16 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:21 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:29 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd50.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:40 < kanzure> "I know it's not on a mainframe but if you think 8,000 vms is a lot (which it is!) Ron Minnich ran 1,000,000 Linux VMs on the Thunderbird supercomputing cluster with Dell supplied 4,480-nodes." https://share.sandia.gov/news/resources/news_releases/sandia-computer-scientists-successfully-boot-one-million-linux-kernels-as-virtual-machines/ 10:41 < kanzure> "“Eventually, we would like to be able to emulate the computer network of a small nation, or even one as large as the United States, in order to ‘virtualize’ and monitor a cyber attack,” he said" 10:48 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:56 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:59 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mtlwzvyoyhozarvz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 11:05 -!- abetusk [~abe@2601:184:4002:2290:b13c:8f77:2f54:4e88] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:16 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd50.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:19 -!- abetusk [~abe@2601:184:4002:2290:104b:1dc8:23db:c6b1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:20 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest80890 11:23 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@212.97.21.162] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:32 -!- jaboja64 [~jaboja@erv10.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:35 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@esd50.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:58 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:5026:243c:696f:d561] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:03 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:08 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:09 -!- jdqx [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:38af:2677:38fb:c884] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:18 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:18 -!- jdqx [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:f593:2cb6:5707:3fd4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:20 -!- jaboja64 is now known as jaboja 12:21 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jocelpmwktmejcfw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 12:31 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mrgtbhysnjwtbsrk] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:40 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@erv10.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:51 -!- CautiousNarwhal [457c9c55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.69.124.156.85] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:51 < vicarion> damn, how much memory do you need to run a million linux vms? 12:52 < Diablo-D3> vicarion: depends 12:52 < Diablo-D3> can I cheat using same page compression techniques? 12:53 < Diablo-D3> and also, am I just booting the VM and not doing anything else? 12:53 < vicarion> is that going to work if all the vms are doing different things? 12:54 < Diablo-D3> because I can still boot linux VMs in under 64MB of ram with modern bloated distros 13:01 < FourFire> vicarion, it's going to work for a lot of memory in the kernel 13:03 < Diablo-D3> like 13:03 < Diablo-D3> if I disable caching 13:03 < Diablo-D3> use memory page ballooning only 13:03 < Diablo-D3> run basically nothing in the VMs 13:03 < Diablo-D3> use a very very very tiny distro 13:03 < Diablo-D3> the kind you run on 16MB machines 13:04 < Diablo-D3> I can probably build a machine that will run a million linux VMs 13:08 < vicarion> well, the guy was trying to run a simulation of the internet, so i think 'run basically nothing' isn't going to work for him 13:14 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:15 < FourFire> say 128MB RAM, go from there 13:17 -!- Diablo-D3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:19 -!- Diablo-D3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:20 -!- jtimon [~quassel@126.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:21 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:25 < chris_99> nmz787_i, you have the lpc-link2 don't you, i'm just contemplating getting one, did you play with the ADC on it much as i'm just wondering if it'd be possible to shovel data from the ADC over USB easily? 13:25 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-108-16-231-242.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:27 -!- jdqx [~jdqx@2602:306:cc94:1950:f593:2cb6:5707:3fd4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:36 < nmz787_i> chris_99: I do, I played with it a bit, looked into modifying the firmware and GUI code, but didn't make much effort 13:38 < chris_99> did you use it with openocd + gcc? 13:38 < nmz787_i> hmm, no I was just using their Qt gui I think 13:39 < nmz787_i> and had the lpcXpresso software installed 13:39 < chris_99> aha, yeah i installed that 13:40 < chris_99> do you think it should be possible to capture @ 80Msps and dump to USB though? i'm struggling to find some decent examples atm though 13:41 < chris_99> oh heh just found https://www.lpcware.com/content/forum/lpc4370-acdhs-speed which you've posted on 13:44 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:48 < xentrac> this Jeff Dean talk about TensorFlow is pretty interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90-S1M7Ny_o 13:48 < kanzure> .title 13:48 < yoleaux> BayLearn15-Keynote3 - YouTube 13:48 < xentrac> I mean it's kind of an overview of the state of the art of (the public part of) deep learning inside Google, what works, what doesn't 13:51 -!- Pompolic_ [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:53 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:53 < xentrac> the actual tensorflow stuff starts at 21'11" 13:54 -!- Pompolic_ is now known as pompolic 13:58 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:34 < pasky> https://brmlab.cz/user/jenda/challenges 14:34 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Quit: Namaste] 14:35 < kanzure> pasky: for code injector, see mitmproxy 14:38 < kanzure> as for sonography, i don't think there are any easy methods for cutting up piezos into the correct shape? the ultrasound probe construction stuff looked somewhat complex... but it's been a year since i've looked. 14:40 < kanzure> for taq polymerase production and purification, i think we are still stuck with packed hplc columns. as for nucleotides, probably requires chromotography but also some chemistry steps. 14:41 < nmz787_i> "Figure 1.1: Primary chamber and Load-lock of magnetron sputtering system" The design of such an intricate system required the participation of several project members over the course of several months. No one person would have been able to accomplish the design of such a system in a timely fashion. New team members were added during the construction phase of the project. Additional members allowed for creative solutions to complex problems. 14:41 < nmz787_i> The actual construction of the system would also have been impossible alone and at times necessitated multiple people and a crane be involved. 14:42 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vhjqljmsseodvlbj] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:43 < kanzure> what was the bird for? 14:43 < juri_> kanzure: like my printer? :) 14:44 < kanzure> isn't that the same photo you showed previously? 14:45 < juri_> indeed. i don't remember getting feedback from you, however. 14:47 < kanzure> i mentioned yellow tape and solid state lasers 14:47 < kanzure> because your tube had imploded or exploded or something 14:47 < juri_> ah yes, now i remember. 14:48 < nmz787_i> kanzure: that took me a few seconds to get 14:48 < kanzure> :-) 14:50 -!- Diablo-D3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has quit [Quit: do coders dream of sheep()?] 14:50 -!- Diablo-D3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:59 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:09 -!- Gurkenglas_ [Gurkenglas@188.103.77.131] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:09 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:51 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dmbzxmoalyfoseuy] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:55 -!- Jenda` [~boch@dekatron.hrach.eu] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:55 < chris_99> nmz787_i, did you get https://www.lpcware.com/system/files/hsadc_1.c working in lpcxpresso, for some reason when i try to compile it (i used one of the existing examples and just inserted the code from that, into one of the files) i get arm-none-eabi/bin/ld: testing2.axf section `.bss' will not fit in region `RamLoc128' 16:02 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:03 -!- Jawmare [~Jawmare@unaffiliated/jawmare] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:03 < pasky> kanzure: thanks :) 16:05 < Jenda`> kanzure: added some notes 16:06 < Jenda`> kanzure: even if you had to use existing sonography probe, it would be much cheaper than the whole machine 16:22 < nmz787_i> chris_99: this is the extent of what I can remember right now https://www.lpcware.com/content/forum/lpc4370-acdhs-speed 16:23 < chris_99> i just managed to get it working :) i used a different example and replaced the source with the one from there 16:24 < chris_99> i want to try doing something like https://www.blackhat.com/presentations/bh-usa-09/BARISANI/BHUSA09-Barisani-Keystrokes-SLIDES.pdf 16:33 -!- jtimon [~quassel@126.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:36 < streety> juri_: looks good, nice to see the optical table being put to use. Do you have anything in mind for printing? 16:40 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:44 -!- Guest80890 is now known as abetusk 16:45 < juri_> streety: osvehicle.com 16:46 < abetusk> I don't understand how droplets move in a preferential direction for the electrowetting 'chips' I've seen (like in opendrop). Why would a droplet preferentially move toward a positive electrode? Why wouldn't the droplet just be pinned when setting up the electric field? 16:49 < streety> exciting times, hope it goes well juri_ 16:56 -!- Diablo-D3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:57 -!- Diablo-D3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:00 < kanzure> Jenda`: how cheap are cheap sonography probes? 17:01 < Jenda`> hm, actually no idea, but we have some from a broken machine 17:02 < kanzure> ah good idea to steal from broken machines, i didn't think about that 17:02 < kanzure> probably the piezos are not the broken components in most broken ultrasound imaging devices...... probably the old 1960s electronics instead. 17:05 < Jenda`> even early 90s devices are made from lots of crazy low integration stuffhttp://nat.brmlab.cz/phtagr/images/view/1333/tag:ultrazvuk/page:1/pos:2 17:07 < abetusk> https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR44l1xjOAV7NyLCpOXj_jlqB2vPRi66qtGiUcFXCO6hWgWoXAUkg ? 17:12 < kanzure> Jenda`: yea all of that is junk 17:14 -!- Gurkenglas_ is now known as Gurkenglas 17:20 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:27 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:27 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has quit [Client Quit] 17:29 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vhjqljmsseodvlbj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:44 -!- Diablo-D3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45 -!- atomical [~atomical@wl2142.cin.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:47 < streety> probes seem to be ~$100 on ebay 17:48 -!- vicarion [~net@2001:388:608c:6cb5:59ec:6ac2:6664:e8e8] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:48 < kanzure> oh. 17:51 < kanzure> i wonder what i was looking at, then. 17:51 < kanzure> oh i only said it was complex, not expensive. good. 17:51 < streety> there were also some for $400+ 17:51 < streety> I guess it depends on how many elements they have, frequency etc 17:52 -!- Diablo-D3 [~diablo@exelion.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:55 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:42 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.76] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:46 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@195.114.251.235] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:49 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@188.103.77.131] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:50 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:08 < nmz787_i> friggin quad-core Intel Atom laptop for $169 (only 2GB RAM and 1355x768 11" display, with 32GB eMMC) but dang... friggin economies of scale 19:10 < xentrac> wow, I should get one 19:10 < nmz787_i> huh, they make a 14" version that monoprice has(sold out) 19:10 < nmz787_i> sold out one: http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=15228 19:10 < xentrac> no space for a disk? 19:10 < nmz787_i> this is the link i have http://www.frys.com/product/8673430?site=72premail011116 19:11 < nmz787_i> probably the eMMC is just a pcie card 19:11 < nmz787_i> I can't remember 19:11 < nmz787_i> idk though 19:11 < nmz787_i> (for the frys link, you would need the promo code: 6052221) 19:11 < nmz787_i> to get it to 159 w free shipping to US 19:13 < nmz787_i> one site says: "eMMC stand for "embedded Multi-Media Controller", so no." 19:13 < nmz787_i> but idk about that, I think that means it'd just be integrated with the memory onto the same PCB 19:14 < xentrac> no, that name is a retcon 19:15 < xentrac> it actually comes from "embedded MMC", where MMC comes from "multimedia card" 19:15 -!- CautiousNarwhal [457c9c55@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.69.124.156.85] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 19:16 < xentrac> which is to say, we're talking about something like a microSD card here 19:17 < nmz787_i> .wik retcon 19:17 < yoleaux> "Retroactive continuity, or retcon for short, is the alteration of previously established facts in the continuity of a fictional work." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retcon 19:17 < nmz787_i> uh 19:17 < nmz787_i> the real thing that needs to happen is the laptop opened up 19:18 < nmz787_i> there's a 50:50 chance I'd say it was soldered on vs being a mini-pcie slot 19:18 < nmz787_i> if you don't care about speed, just grab a 64gb thumbnail drive 19:18 < nmz787_i> for an additional $15 19:19 < xentrac> well, I don't care *that* much about speed 19:19 < xentrac> but I *do* care about space 19:19 < xentrac> I'd like 2048GiB, not 64! 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