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run microcapillary gels for sequencing, and sequencing has been on my list of things to do for microfluidics 09:16 < chris_99> ah cool, i have an electrophoresis psu, mine is max 500V 09:16 < chris_99> though 09:21 -!- Quashie__ [~boingredd@ool-18bccfe5.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:24 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:28 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:29 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:30 -!- PatrickRobotham_ [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fuzkmvtvpresvnjt] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:43 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:01 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 10:25 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:31 < JayDugger> manga 10:32 < JayDugger> Dammit. Should've gone into the find dialog. Sorry. 10:32 < JayDugger> Never midn. 10:32 < JayDugger> What manga? 10:35 < nmz787_i1> some japanese comic format 10:36 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 10:36 < JayDugger> 10:37 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.164.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:37 < kanzure> zeno says you'll never get there 10:37 < JayDugger> i can out-drink a dead Greek, even while holding my temper after an undeserved smart-ass answer. 10:38 < JayDugger> Please tell me more about "(08:24:15 PM) lkjhfr: kanzure: so... do you have a person to draw the manga?" 10:38 < kanzure> hplusroadmap manga-ization 10:39 < kanzure> so far just a fanciful thought, no details exist 10:39 < nmz787_i1> I boiled a CPU with some motherboard attached (all soldered) in nitric acid last night.. had to change it 4 times to get it all dissolved and leave just the bare die 10:39 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:39 < JayDugger> Oh, thank goodness. I just had the horrible thought it might have been a manga version of that terrible fanfic. 10:40 < kanzure> to my knowledge, eudoxia has yet to start writing hplusroadmap fanfic 10:42 < JayDugger> That would be fine. I meant that other one that's a pastiche of a pastiche of Tom Brown's School Days. 10:42 < JayDugger> Junji Ito or Masamune Shirow, so long as its a fancy. Neither one of them seems to being doing much these days. 10:43 < nmz787_i1> chris_99: cool, you gonna buy it? not gonna try using your global shutter cam first? 10:43 < chris_99> nmz787_i1, i don't have the cash alas atm 10:43 < nmz787_i1> I think I used a good 20 or 30 bux worth of nitric... so I guess decapping work is at least that expensive (not to mention any further investigation) 10:44 < chris_99> do you have a metallurgical microscope to image it? 10:44 < nmz787_i1> my buddy said in his experience actually decapping ICs (not including PCB like I had) will only take one pass of boiling nitric 10:45 < AdrianG> you boiled it fuming nitric acid..? 10:45 < JayDugger> Or Tsutomu Nihei. 10:45 < nmz787_i1> chris_99: nah, but my friend has a nice scope with nomarsky interference 10:45 < AdrianG> really 10:45 < AdrianG> are you sure it wasnt just fuming 10:45 < nmz787_i1> chris_99: and I wanna throw it in the FIB 10:45 < nmz787_i1> AdrianG: it was on a hot plate 10:45 < chris_99> oh cool :) 10:45 < AdrianG> nmz787_i1: molarity? 10:46 < nmz787_i1> AdrianG: my friend said the concentration was likely in the 90s to begin 10:46 < AdrianG> well, i hope you have an exhaust hood 10:47 < chris_99> what respirator where you using, i keep looking at them, i've been told the filters will let in a small % of nitric in, so supplied air is better, but they're not exactly cheap 10:47 < chris_99> or hood? 10:47 < AdrianG> chris_99: respirator isnt going to be very helpful because you can get nitrogen oxides in your face 10:47 < nmz787_i1> yeah no respirator, just in a hood... I didn't check the roof for dead birds afterwards though 10:48 < AdrianG> really really hash on mucosa, and possibly fatal 10:48 < chris_99> AdrianG, i mean full face mask 10:48 < AdrianG> lung edema and goob bye earth 10:48 < nmz787_i1> I was actually wondering how it might do against a bad case of infectious pneumonia 10:48 < nmz787_i1> heh 10:48 < chris_99> like 3m 6800 10:48 < AdrianG> chris_99: such stuff is always best in a hood behind a blastproof safety sash 10:49 < nmz787_i1> I was sick just before thanksgiving with some lung thing, spent an hour spraying bleach cleaning both our bathrooms fully... and definitely burned my smell sensors with bleach... but I got better that day while my girlfriend (who didn't use bleach at all, and not in a closed room) got worse 10:50 < AdrianG> nmz787_i1: just avoid nitric acid fumes if you value your lungs 10:50 < nmz787_i1> AdrianG: for fun at the end, my buddy shot some isopropanol in the beaker and it was pretty active 10:51 < AdrianG> try some acetone 10:51 < AdrianG> just make sure to count fingers afterwards 10:51 < nmz787_i1> haha, maybe I'll mention it to my buddy and see what he thinks 10:52 < AdrianG> yeah its best if you stand behind him just in case 10:52 < AdrianG> human body is a really good shock absorbent 10:52 < nmz787_i1> he taught me a new slogan, aside from the "add acid to water, like you otter".... "add water to acid, your ass will get blasted" 10:52 < nmz787_i1> haha, yeah I was doing that last night 10:53 < nmz787_i1> but that was more because I didn't have eye protection and had a nice shirt on 11:00 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:06 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:150d:5b34:5b41:2b04] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:19 -!- enkiv2 [~john@c-24-60-31-0.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.3] 11:20 -!- enkiv2 [~john@c-24-60-31-0.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:27 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@111.235.64.4] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:37 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:38 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:41 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:43 -!- atomical [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:51 < FourFire> Just Watched A.I. (2001) movie was way past my expectations, why haven't I seen it before now? 12:53 < Diablo-D3> FourFire: it makes me irrationally angry for some reason 12:53 < Diablo-D3> it also didn't do all that well in the box office 12:53 < chris_99> heh, i quite liked AI 12:53 < Diablo-D3> I "liked" it I guess? The ending wants me to drive a fist through someone 12:54 < Diablo-D3> I think the movie would have been what I wanted if Kubrick himself directed it 12:54 < Diablo-D3> instead of Spielberg fucking it up 12:55 < chris_99> kubrick thought Spielberg would do a better job iirc 12:56 < kanzure> waste of time. next... 12:59 < Diablo-D3> chris_99: kind of 12:59 < Diablo-D3> kubrick couldnt figure out how to end the film 13:00 < chris_99> ah 13:00 < Diablo-D3> neither could spielberg, apparently 13:00 < Diablo-D3> since he used kubrick's ending 13:00 < Diablo-D3> and its the ending that damns that movie for me 13:00 < FourFire> Diablo-D3, irrationally angry? 13:01 < Diablo-D3> FourFire: yes, because its not a bad movie, it really isnt 13:01 < kanzure> this is boring. 13:01 < FourFire> what terribad implications for the human race did you happen to dislike? 13:01 < Diablo-D3> FourFire: the ending is too short. 13:01 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-unvqlumyjxdkhbmm] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 13:01 < Diablo-D3> like, literally, it finally gets to the interesting part 13:01 < Diablo-D3> and then the movie ends 13:01 < FourFire> I agree with kanzure, now response from biviva so far, i presume i was too direct and won't get a response 13:02 < FourFire> I have given up on Installing nvidia drivers and not breaking everything so I'm doing a fresh install on my simuylation machine and have ordered an AMD GPU 13:02 < Diablo-D3> Like, if you want to know how that sort of ending SHOULD work 13:02 < Diablo-D3> go read the manga named Hotel 13:02 < FourFire> Diablo-D3, ancestor sims, i get it. 13:02 < Diablo-D3> http://www.mangareader.net/hotel/1 13:03 < FourFire> Diablo-D3, no time. 13:03 < cpopell6> oh, Boichi 13:03 < cpopell6> SKR was an interesting with a weird ending 13:03 < cpopell6> *an interesting series 13:11 < Diablo-D3> FourFire: its very short. 13:11 < Diablo-D3> In fact, just completed reading it again. 13:11 < FourFire> Ok 13:11 < FourFire> > I ignore recommendations about new TV shows and books, preferring not even to learn the premises, thus dodging the temptation entirely. 13:12 < FourFire> from Socr8es, of MIRI on avoiding Akrasia 13:19 < Diablo-D3> http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/01/why-the-calorie-is-broken/ 13:19 < Diablo-D3> yay 13:19 < Diablo-D3> more mainstream stuff is picking up CICO is broken 13:25 < nmz787_i1> isn't starving a sure-fire way to lose weight? 13:26 < nmz787_i1> I know it is impractical to send people to starvation treatment for a month or something (people want to keep working, which requires energy for brain power, and starving/fasting is mentally hard/painful) 13:26 < nmz787_i1> and also physically painful 13:30 < Diablo-D3> nmz787_i1: you're seriously asking that? 13:30 < Diablo-D3> starvation doesn't cause long term wait loss 13:30 < Diablo-D3> in fact, it causes the body to clam up even harder, so a fat person will starve _even faster_ 13:30 < Diablo-D3> our bodies are fucking retarded sometimes 13:34 < nmz787_i1> Diablo-D3: isn't the whole point of fat so you don't starve? 13:34 < nmz787_i1> (to death) 13:34 < nmz787_i1> or one main point of it at least 13:35 < AdrianG> kanzure: what does the appointment of paul chou to cftc advisory committee really mean? 13:35 < AdrianG> do you have anything to share? 13:39 < Diablo-D3> nmz787_i1: exactly! 13:39 < Diablo-D3> nmz787_i1: but its also worried about you freezing to death in the bitter cold 13:39 < cpopell6> http://examine.com/faq/how-do-i-stay-out-of-starvation-mode/ 13:39 < Diablo-D3> and since lack of food usually happens during the winter.... 13:39 < Diablo-D3> thanks evolutionbama 13:40 < cpopell6> My reflex is to go see what Examine says, though there is a minute chance they're off here 13:42 < nmz787_i1> Diablo-D3: so turn up the heat in the house the month you're set to lose weight by fasting? 13:43 < Diablo-D3> nmz787_i1: nope, because your body has no mechanism to say "oh wait, we're not cold, why are we hoarding fat like a mcdonalds fry cooker" 13:44 < Diablo-D3> nmz787_i1: so for the average person, you cant drop below 1500 calories 13:44 < Diablo-D3> else your body doesnt work right 13:44 < nmz787_i1> Diablo-D3: but not working right for a month could be worth it to reduce to a less-obese weight, if that's seriously harming you physically or mentally 13:44 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: oh my fucking god, that just did a full window GIMME YOUR EMAIL BITCH, complete with a subtle sex sells 13:45 < nmz787_i1> your body definitely has heat sensors... and I bet you can trick it into thinking you're eating by taking some MSG or something 13:45 < cpopell6> oh, just close the sales pitch 13:45 < Diablo-D3> nmz787_i1: not working right as in you wont lose weight 13:45 < kanzure> AdrianG: :-) what's really weird is that you are the only one who has asked. 13:45 < nmz787_i1> Diablo-D3: so you're saying you'd just die? 13:45 < Diablo-D3> nmz787_i1: well, it gets even more fun 13:45 < Diablo-D3> yes, you'd just die 13:45 < nmz787_i1> I don't think this is true 13:45 < Diablo-D3> you'd literally starve to death and die 13:45 < Diablo-D3> your body is that stupid 13:45 < Diablo-D3> or worse 13:45 < Diablo-D3> WORSE 13:45 < Diablo-D3> it'll start eating your muscle 13:45 < nmz787_i1> I've only fasted for like a week max at a time 13:45 < AdrianG> kanzure: it sounds like good news, but unsure of substance. 13:46 < nmz787_i1> but I def remember to have lost weight 13:46 < Diablo-D3> nice fucking fat supply, and it eats your muscle instead 13:46 < nmz787_i1> I was also a 14 year old or something 13:46 < nmz787_i1> and who knows, maybe it was mental placebo that I lost weight 13:46 < Diablo-D3> nmz787_i1: now, here comes the fun 13:46 < Diablo-D3> you know what contains the proper markers for your body to think you're eating? 13:46 < Diablo-D3> fat. 13:47 < Diablo-D3> you know what the human body can do? eat a high fat medium protein no carb diet 13:47 < cpopell6> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/pdf/postmedj00315-0056.pdf successful therapeutic fast of 382 days 13:47 < cpopell6> for weight loss 13:47 < Diablo-D3> and lose weight while eating 5000 calories a day. 13:47 < cpopell6> *attended by doctors with supplements and such 13:47 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: nmz787_i1 is saying eat 0 calories. 13:47 < kanzure> AdrianG: they want to learn more and counter some of the non-bitcoin hype. 13:48 < AdrianG> cftc wants to counter non-bitcon hype? 13:48 < AdrianG> really? 13:48 < cpopell6> yes, this guy took in BDH, vitamin c, yeast, calorie-free fluids, and potassium 13:48 < kanzure> AdrianG: cftc wants to get good knowledge. 13:48 < nmz787_i1> Diablo-D3: not necessarily, i'm saying seriously mostly stop eating, i'd guess cutout at least 90-95% calories 13:48 < nmz787_i1> but yeah I was thinking the same study http://zidbits.com/2013/06/how-long-can-you-live-off-the-fat-in-your-body/ 13:49 < Diablo-D3> and Im saying the number of calories going in has nothing to do with how much weight you lose 13:49 < Diablo-D3> seeing as _I have personally done this_ 13:49 < kanzure> AdrianG: hard to get good knowledge in some parts of the current fintech climate. 13:49 < Diablo-D3> 5000 calories a day, lost weight so fast I had to discontinue it and eat my emergency carbs 13:49 < AdrianG> kanzure: ive been quite disturbed by toronto stock exchange appointing di iorio as their digital officer. and i just realized cftc asked paul chou to serve on their committee. 13:49 < cpopell6> Diablo-D3 : were you keeping a log? 13:50 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: define log 13:50 < nmz787_i1> Diablo-D3: were you eating laxative at the same time? 13:50 < Diablo-D3> nmz787_i1: nope. 13:50 < cpopell6> Diablo-D3 : were you tracking calories in by recording it in a journal, preferably online? 13:50 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: online, no. 13:50 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: but I was "keeping a journal" because I was eating all the same thing 13:51 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: an exact amount of bacon. 13:51 < Diablo-D3> bacon has the magical property of being very calorically dense and, with a good brand, pretty close in the fat to meat ratio 13:51 < cpopell6> you were eating 116 slices of bacon a day? 13:51 < Diablo-D3> 2 pounds of bacon every day. 13:51 < Diablo-D3> you cant say slice, everyone has different thicknesses of slices 13:52 < cpopell6> 2 pounds before or after cooking 13:52 < Diablo-D3> before 13:52 < Diablo-D3> fun fact: most of the shrinkage in bacon, unless you outright obliterate it, is water 13:52 < AdrianG> kanzure: hopefully CFTC will help legitimize bitcoin as an actual asset. 13:53 < cpopell6> Diablo-D3 : so you were eating (approximation, here) around 30 slices of bacon a day? 13:53 < kanzure> AdrianG: way ahead of you. 13:53 < cpopell6> that's 2 lbs uncooked 13:53 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: I prefer thick cut, so less. 13:53 < AdrianG> kanzure: ? 13:53 < Diablo-D3> but yeah, somewhere in that ballpark 13:53 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: pound packages, ate two a day 13:53 < AdrianG> kanzure: in what sense? 13:53 < kanzure> AdrianG: pm 13:53 < Diablo-D3> I have a huge goddamned broiler pan, three fourth of a package fit on it 13:53 < cpopell6> Diablo-D3 : do you know the brand? 13:54 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: this time? one of the local store brands 13:54 < Diablo-D3> I calculated calories via the nutritional panel on it, but all of them were pretty close (yes, I stood in the store with the calculator app open, FOR SCIENCE!) 13:54 < cpopell6> nutritional profiles are post-cooking though 13:55 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: the thing is, this was a practice run for the actual attempt 13:55 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: it was meant to be for an entire month 13:55 < Diablo-D3> I couldn't make it ten days 13:55 < cpopell6> let's come to an agreement on the nutritional profile of uncooked bacon per weight 13:55 < cpopell6> http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/pork-products/2208/2 do you find this page reasonable? 13:56 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: well, if the nutritional profile is of cooked, it doesn't quite matter 13:56 < cpopell6> this is uncooked 13:56 < Diablo-D3> the panel said x calories, x g fat, x g protein per serving, approximately x servings per package 13:56 < Diablo-D3> the math came out to a tiny smidgen over 5000 13:56 -!- atomical_ [~atomical@50.247.130.97] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 13:56 < cpopell6> no matter how I'm doing the math I'm not getting 5k calories for 2lbs of bacon 13:56 < Diablo-D3> weird. 13:56 < cpopell6> *uncooked 13:56 < cpopell6> 5k calories for 2lbs of cooked bacon? 13:57 < cpopell6> closer to 10k 13:57 < cpopell6> sorry, no, that's 5k 13:57 < cpopell6> for 2lbs of post-cooking 13:57 < cpopell6> 1kg of bacon is about 5400 calories, cooked 13:57 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: see heres the problem 13:57 < cpopell6> uncooked it's about 1500 calories 13:57 < Diablo-D3> I weighed what the extruded oil was 13:57 < cpopell6> 1500-2000 13:57 < Diablo-D3> and the cooked bacon 13:58 < Diablo-D3> the weight only changed about 15% 13:58 < Diablo-D3> and there was very little extruded oil 13:58 < Diablo-D3> it almost wasnt worth measuring at all 13:59 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: now heres the other thing 13:59 < Diablo-D3> lets say, sure, 5000 calories in 2 pounds cooked 13:59 < Diablo-D3> okay, sure 14:00 < Diablo-D3> thats 2438 calories per pound, 187.1g (or 287% DV) of fat, 7768 mg (323%) of sodium, and 170.1g (340%) of protein 14:00 < Diablo-D3> thats according to google, the numbers on the package were similar 14:01 < Diablo-D3> I was eating almost 600% of my DV of fat, over 600% of my sodium, and almost 700% of my protien 14:01 < cpopell6> that's like 10 lbs of uncooked 14:01 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: no, thats what google quotes for 1lb cooked 14:01 < Diablo-D3> bacon does not shrink 10x. 14:03 < Diablo-D3> google has numbers for 1 pound uncooked as well 14:03 < cpopell6> it has about a 66% reduction in mass 14:03 < Diablo-D3> its about 1900 calories 14:03 < Diablo-D3> which is about 25% reduction. 14:03 < cpopell6> http://blog.doingsciencetostuff.com/2014/05/18/bacon-shrinkage/ 14:03 < Diablo-D3> and whoever did the cooked numbers was fucking obliterating their bacon 14:04 < Diablo-D3> I prefer my bacon just starting to get crispy 14:04 < Diablo-D3> not rock hard bullshit 14:05 < Diablo-D3> so given that, cpopell6 14:05 < Diablo-D3> since we cant agree on numbers 14:05 < Diablo-D3> I was still eating ~4000 calories a day 14:05 < Diablo-D3> since thats the number of calories in 2 pounds of uncooked 14:06 < Diablo-D3> which in no way, according to simple CICO theory can lead to a loss of a pound of weight per day. 14:06 < Diablo-D3> it didnt start all that much, it accelerated the longer I did it 14:07 < Diablo-D3> on the tenth day I actually ate 3 pounds of bacon, and was still hungry 14:07 < Diablo-D3> so I aborted the experiment and digged into my emergency carbs 14:13 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: I just want to lose the last of the pounds 14:13 < Diablo-D3> science is science and all, but I need to know if what Im doing produces the results I want first 14:23 < jrayhawk> cpopell6: that yearlong therapeutic fast thing is interesting; thanks for that 14:23 < Diablo-D3> cpopell6: gaining back the weight is easy 14:24 < Diablo-D3> so if I can manage to make this work sanely, its easy to do the science 14:24 < jrayhawk> Diablo-D3: Just to warn you, gaining back the gut biome turns out to be a pain in the ass. 14:24 < Diablo-D3> jrayhawk: I think you may have just punned 14:25 < Diablo-D3> and my gut biome is already changed 14:25 < jrayhawk> As in the damage done in six months of zero-carbing may take more than six months to sort itself out. 14:25 < Diablo-D3> anything that relied on grains and refined sugars has largely died off 14:25 < Diablo-D3> jrayhawk: ahh that, no 14:25 < Diablo-D3> I wasnt looking at doing it for 6 months 14:25 < Diablo-D3> just a month 14:26 < Diablo-D3> 6 months I'd look like a goddamned skeleton 14:26 < Diablo-D3> jrayhawk: see, Im 6 foot tall 14:26 < Diablo-D3> I used to weigh 340 14:27 < jrayhawk> Anabolic signalling isn't that hard to input. 14:27 < Diablo-D3> strict paleo over a year I became 215, and then by the end of the second year I hit 184 14:27 < jrayhawk> 15 minutes of resistance training per week is plenty for most people. 14:28 < cluckj> ketosis is neat 14:28 < Diablo-D3> Ive increased weight since then due to increased muscle mass (took up weight lifting) 14:28 < Diablo-D3> but I still have like, about 15 pounds ish left 14:28 < Diablo-D3> that needs to go away 14:28 -!- jenelizabeth__ [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust1337.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:31 -!- jenelizabeth [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust1337.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:32 -!- jenelizabeth__ [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust1337.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:33 -!- jenelizabeth_ [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust1337.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:36 < Diablo-D3> jrayhawk: I mean, worse case is 14:36 < Diablo-D3> Iif I can only do it ten days at a time 14:37 < Diablo-D3> I do ten days on ten days off or something 14:40 -!- jenelizabeth__ [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust1337.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:42 -!- jenelizabeth_ [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust1337.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:44 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: austerity chic brand destruction] 14:45 < nmz787_i1> kanzure: if I want to store (diff) patches... from a long running program that will generate many patches... what is an efficient way to store them? I was thinking CSV would be easy because I could just append new data to the file... but then I see the patches have newlines in them and who knows what else, possibly quotes 14:45 < jrayhawk> Well, with the biome issue, you only really notice problems afterward. 14:46 < nmz787_i1> I /could/ create a directory for the patches, and write out 1000s of patch files 14:46 < nmz787_i1> but that seems rather ugly 14:47 < nmz787_i1> I also considered JSON, but then I'd have to keep a copy of the dict in memory (with a timestamp for the key I) and write out the whole dict at once, every time I wanted to update (which was everytime I create a diff/patch) 14:52 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:53 -!- jenelizabeth__ [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust1337.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:59 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ikqcflcbcbypietu] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:04 < TMA> nmz787_i1: that sounds like a typical workload for a database -- having a set of data and changing it piecewise 15:18 < nmz787_i1> TMA: hmm, SQlite? 15:23 < kanzure> nmz787_i1: `git diff` can generate patches. or `git patch` i think. 15:24 < streety> I think SQLite should work fine 15:31 < nmz787_i1> kanzure: I have the patches/diffs... using https://code.google.com/p/google-diff-match-patch/ 15:31 < TMA> nmz787_i1: I have no strong feelings about any one database engine in particular. from what you have said, pretty much any database might be suitable -- the difference is mainly in the minutiae [performance, scalability, reliability, ORM ease, compatibility with your language of choice, price, size limitation...] 15:35 < nmz787_i1> TMA: I think for now, I will just save individual patch files in a special directory for them all... if there are 10,000 files after a run, well that's a good reason to change over then... but for now it seems implementing a db is for later improvements (even if maybe tomorrow, after I get the rest working) 15:40 < TMA> nmz787_i1: also, you can get a long way not spitting the files into one directory but to several (think of the cache on-disk organization -- typically the file name is a hash, say "12345678..." and it is stored in 1/2/12345678... -- that reduces the number of files in the directory to a manageable amount) 15:41 < TMA> also, I could use some improvements to my syntax. 15:44 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:14 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:15 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:16 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:31 -!- erasmus [~erasmus@unaffiliated/erasmus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:38 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.75] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:39 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.75] has quit [Client Quit] 16:41 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:48 < maaku> Ugggh notary and witnesses got "weirded out" by alcor paperwork at the last minute. Now I need to draw up new docs and redo it 16:49 < maaku> Anyone know a cryonics friendly notary in the sf bay area? 16:51 < kanzure> maaku: i know tons of people in the area, i could start you with christine peterson, ralph merkle, robert freitas, singularityu, pick your poison... 16:52 < kanzure> also there's probably an actual cryonics group 16:52 < maaku> Are any of them notaries? 16:53 < maaku> They can probably provide a recommendation though 16:58 < AdrianG> the notary refused to sign your alcor paperwork? 17:02 < AdrianG> i've never heard of notaries refusals like that. 17:06 < streety> I'm curious to know what the issue was. Did they not think you understood the documents? 17:08 < maaku> streety: they did not understand the documents 17:08 < maaku> and therefore, could not be sure that I could 17:09 < maaku> but actually the notary was quite rude and seemed to object to the idea of it 17:10 < maaku> it was my bank actually 17:10 < maaku> former bank 17:11 < streety> Sounds like you found a bad notary, not understanding I can get but disagreeing with and using a lack of understanding as an excuse to block doesn't seem to be appropriate to me 17:11 < streety> was it your former bank this morning? 17:13 < maaku> nope 17:13 < maaku> it was a pretty rude and judgemental experience, so i'll be moving my business elsewhere 17:15 < AdrianG> the only situation when a notary refuses to sign would be if they'd think you are not mentally capable 17:15 < AdrianG> basically, they thought you were nuts. 17:16 < AdrianG> bank notaries are of the worst kind, you should've just gone to a lawyer. 17:17 < streety> or could not confirm your identity or themselves stood to benefit financially 17:18 < AdrianG> im assuming he had his IDs on him, and maaku isnt notaries' spouse or whatever 17:19 < AdrianG> usually, common law notaries are not required to ensure you understand the document, maybe that local jurisdiction differs in that aspect. 17:19 < streety> oh in this case I think your summary is spot on. 17:20 < AdrianG> perhaps the notary can also assert it was his understanding maaku was being scammed. 17:20 -!- PatrickRobotham_ [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fuzkmvtvpresvnjt] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:21 < AdrianG> i never seen alcors paperwork, but the fastest way to get this notarized, if it's that weird, would be to deal with a lawyer who has a good amount of experience with mental health law. 17:32 -!- andares [~andares@2607:fb90:2c3b:3151:4bc:e3a7:be20:4467] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:32 -!- andares [~andares@2607:fb90:2c3b:3151:4bc:e3a7:be20:4467] has quit [Changing host] 17:32 -!- andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:33 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:36 -!- esmerelda [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:37 -!- andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:39 -!- c0rw1n is now known as c0rw|zZz 17:50 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qalowlmptkohrnhl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:07 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:08 < nmz787_i> got my degree today in the mail 18:09 < cluckj> congrats 18:09 < cluckj> they can't take it away from you now 18:12 < lkjhfr> nmz787_i: have you checked out that link already? 18:12 < nmz787_i> what is the mRNA analogue of the proteome? 18:12 < nmz787_i> lkjhfr: haven't checked the logs 18:13 < nmz787_i> lkjhfr: which link? 18:14 < lkjhfr> http://www.electrofuels.org/ 18:14 < nmz787_i> cluckj: thanks 18:14 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:14 < nmz787_i> oh, I have had it open since I last opened it 18:15 < nmz787_i> so there's this from 2 hours ago: http://hackaday.com/2016/01/26/stop-driving-laser-cutters-with-3d-printer-software/ 18:15 < nmz787_i> points to https://github.com/openhardwarecoza/LaserWeb 18:15 < nmz787_i> .title 18:15 < yoleaux> GitHub - openhardwarecoza/LaserWeb: Node.js based, Windows/Linux/Mac/Raspberry Pi/Vagrant supported, host software for Lasercutters/Engravers running Marlin/Smoothieware/Grbl/LasaurGrbl with integrated parametric Gcode generators, Raster support, as well as Raster and Vector Engraving. SVG and DXF supported for cutting, PNG, BMP, JPEG support for raster engraving. 18:15 < lkjhfr> nmz787_i: i have no idea what is this thing you're asking about but wikipedia suggests either transcriptome or exome 18:16 < nmz787_i> transcriptome is it 18:23 < nmz787_i> kanzure: re "It is suspected that persister Borrelia burrows deeply into nerve tissue" Nathan McCorkle 6:22 PM (0 minutes ago)to diybioI wonder is C. elegans would work.. it has nerves... ? 18:31 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdclghlhefsorspz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:55 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:05 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 19:09 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.70] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 19:17 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:21 < kanzure> well celegans has neurons 19:22 < kanzure> i am not sure if this qualifies as nerves 19:24 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:37 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:47 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 19:48 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.164.71] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:42 -!- Madplatypus [uid19957@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nhtouhrjhajgbahf] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:37 -!- jenelizabeth_ [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust1337.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:30 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:47 -!- psyreal [~psyreal@71.92.165.184] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:48 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:49 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sdclghlhefsorspz] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:58 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 23:00 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p276100-ipngn200702kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:00 -!- psyreal [~psyreal@71.92.165.184] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:19 -!- enkiv21 [~john@c-24-60-31-0.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:21 -!- enkiv2 [~john@c-24-60-31-0.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:38 -!- Proteus1 [~Proteus@ip174-71-127-74.om.om.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:42 -!- drethelin [~drethelin@24-241-226-112.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:42 -!- esmerelda [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 -!- PatrickRobotham_ [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cpryqqanbrjsfzll] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:46 -!- PatrickRobotham_ is now known as PatrickRobotham 23:51 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qalowlmptkohrnhl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] --- Log closed Wed Jan 27 00:00:16 2016