--- Log opened Thu Feb 18 00:00:36 2016 00:03 -!- juri___ [~juri@c-73-128-70-28.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:05 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:10 -!- esmerelda is now known as mabel 00:33 -!- mabel [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:40 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kizzvutrntwzoler] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:46 -!- nnnn20430 [nnnn@lightning.bouncer.ml] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:51 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:02 -!- indiebio [~quassel@quassel.tumbleweed.org.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:10 -!- zadock [~outsider@81.180.223.51] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:15 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-188-103-077-131.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:16 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:33 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:37 -!- zadock [~outsider@81.180.223.51] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:37 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:44 < archels> wat http://phys.org/news/2016-01-physicists-scheme-teleport-memory.html 01:44 < archels> .title 01:44 < yoleaux> Physicists propose the first scheme to teleport the memory of an organism 01:44 < archels> http://arxiv.org/abs/1509.03763 01:46 -!- nnnn20430 [nnnn@lightning.bouncer.ml] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:48 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pvbccnlummfqfxzw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:44 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-56-224.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:46 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:56 -!- wrldpcmbl [uid145438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-quawyccljiujziun] 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still easier to scan in the thin amount of brain matter compared to regular thick juicy brains. also this is probably easier to achieve (such as through hydrocephaly ... 07:36 < kanzure> ... selection) than achieving animal brains that are literally flat. 07:40 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pvbccnlummfqfxzw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:42 < kanzure> also...... since hemispherectomies seem to result in animals that still behave in roughly the same way, it would be interesting to run a project where you do lots of hemispherectomies while also doing lesion studies on the remaining hemispheres (adding lots of well-placed lesions). for the animals that no longer behave according to whatever metric, you discard those. for the ones that continue to behave to the expectations, you can scan ... 07:42 < kanzure> ... those in. it would be less work because the physical amount of matter to scan is going to be lower due to how the lesions removed "unnecessary" brain matter. and then your job is to simulate or emulate the remaining (scanned) matter. you have some working evidence that the critter was still able to do interesting things because you observed its behavior after recovering from the lesion surgeries anyway. 07:43 < kanzure> different members of the same population will respond differently to the same lesion types but that's okay, you only need one that survives lots of lesions (large reduction of brain mass) and still behaves in relevant ways. and that's what you scan (and compare to other similar survivor results, and simulate/emulate). 07:44 < kanzure> also you don't have to do physical lesion surgery, since we know how to create lesions with transcranial ultrasound 09:06 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:08 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@aejj40.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:37 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wuxdgnrxfdqsxwgr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 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http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/medical-robots/biomimetic-anthropomorphic-robot-hand 11:40 < yoleaux> This Is the Most Amazing Biomimetic Anthropomorphic Robot Hand We've Ever Seen - IEEE Spectrum 11:52 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@aejj40.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:08 -!- nickjohnson_ [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yrbsztwrghqdklyj] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:09 -!- enki-2 [~john@c-24-60-31-0.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:11 -!- juri___ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:12 -!- nickjohnson [sid789@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ugejjgeextzstohp] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:12 -!- enkiv2 [~john@c-24-60-31-0.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:12 -!- juri_ [~juri@vpn166.sdf.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:12 -!- jtimon [~quassel@37.134.31.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:12 -!- Stskeeps [~cvm@unaffiliated/stskeeps] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:12 -!- 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quando, et cui] 15:00 -!- mf1008 [~mf1008@unaffiliated/mf1008] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:03 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-58-56.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:09 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:11 -!- augur [~augur@c-73-46-94-9.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:22 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:27 < jrayhawk> oh good, you're finally looking into NixOS 15:51 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hhhtigdzncnorkfo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:54 < xentrac> heh 16:04 -!- wrldpcmbl [uid145438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uetpfxpvirxegbfj] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:20 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:41 -!- Guest23746 is now known as abetusk 16:41 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pygsfoohovwndizc] has quit 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https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/pkgs/build-support/replace-dependency.nix 18:33 < kanzure> distributed build caching using hazelcast and memcache https://bazel-review.googlesource.com/#/c/2760/ 18:38 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:38 < kanzure> yashgaroth: contact established but haven't set a time yet 18:39 < yashgaroth> ah good 18:40 < kanzure> body will be in the mail soon 18:41 < yashgaroth> excellent, payment will be delivered as agreed 18:41 < kanzure> what just happened here? 18:41 < yashgaroth> not sure 18:41 < kanzure> but you're definitely going to be paying me, right? 18:42 < yashgaroth> fee is dependent upon performance 18:42 < kanzure> but i made it up 18:42 < yashgaroth> hmm let me check the contract clauses 18:43 < yashgaroth> please review section 7.b of your copy 18:43 < kanzure> how much longer do you guestimate the crispr patent war to last? 18:43 < yashgaroth> years, but I don't worry too much about it since patents are for squares 18:44 < yashgaroth> I like that people are just going "oh they'll be too busy fighting over it to worry about little old me" which is a decent strategy 19:12 < kanzure> http://www.erisian.com.au/wordpress/2016/02/18/bitcoin-fees-vs-supply-and-demand 19:17 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-159-74-51.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:17 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-87-11-30.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:38 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@aejj40.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:25 -!- juri___ is now known as juri_ 21:09 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:26 -!- Houshalter [~Houshalte@oh-71-50-58-56.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:32 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@aejj40.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:32 -!- |node [uid125132@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hkychgzbfhhrgvxn] 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