--- Log opened Sun Apr 10 00:00:24 2016 01:39 -!- sandeepkr_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:41 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:45 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:49 -!- sandeepkr_ [~sandeep@111.235.64.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:26 -!- Aurelius_Home [~cpopell@c-73-200-185-48.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:16 -!- wrldpcmbl [uid145438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qeyvtmcfciruhcqn] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:30 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:25 -!- wrldpcmbl [uid145438@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qeyvtmcfciruhcqn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:59 -!- nildicit [~nildicit@unaffiliated/nildicit] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:01 < JayDugger> Do those interstellar finance speculations overlap with the proposals re: making bitcoin quantum resistant you mentioned? 06:14 < fenn> tl;dr mostly about the limits on using astronomical objects for determining time and the uncertainty thereof, and the (lack of) usefulness of forming 100,000 year contracts 06:14 < fenn> but apparently it's possible to mine bitcoins on mars for about half the year 06:16 < JayDugger> 100 year-old information might become valuable as a historic reference. 06:16 < JayDugger> Yeah, just finished it. 06:17 < JayDugger> My question got the answer, "No." I still appreciate your summary, fenn. Thank you. 06:58 -!- AmbulatoryCortex [~Ambulator@173-31-155-69.client.mchsi.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:32 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.173.205] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:37 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jolgeuwyjcjueprc] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:59 < pasky> hey guys - we're incorporating the startup i'm (now co-)founding and we're rethinking the provisional "ailao" name 07:59 < pasky> I'd really appreciate your thoughts on our name ideas, how do they make you feel? http://pastebin.com/S0BxsCg3 07:59 < pasky> (figuring out the name has been awfully difficult! i'd just stick with ailao if it was up to me, but... :) 08:02 < kanzure> stick with "HYPER PASKY INDUSTRIAL" can't go wrong with this name 08:03 < pasky> oh i love that 08:03 < pasky> but as I said, I'm *co*founder now :) 08:03 < kanzure> all of those names are garbage 08:03 < pasky> i guess :) 08:03 < kanzure> use "mindstream" 08:04 < kanzure> (like blockstream, clearstream, jetstream, etc.) 08:05 < pasky> hmm, I also like the buddhist definition... but there's mindstream analytics whose trademark ought to clash with us I guess :( 08:06 < kanzure> trademarks only apply within similar industries or reasonable chance of confusion etc 08:06 < pasky> yeah and they do big data cloudy business analytics stuff 08:07 < kanzure> gross 08:11 < streety> thetapi is going to be missed by most people - the tapi? what's a tapi? ailao somewhat has the same issue, only realized the AI was for artificial intelligence when I saw it presented that way on your site. The *minds ideas aren't terrible. MiniMinds would be my pick of those presented 08:17 < pasky> I like the "theta-pi" vs. "the(t)-api" duality, but i agree the most likely reading "the-tapi" is less than enticing :) nice input, thanks 08:18 < JayDugger> LittleMinds has euphony in English, but might overlap the connotations of "small-minded." 08:19 < pasky> yes, we were worried about that... miniminds seemed to have least bad connotations, but someone said that americans prefer big things ;) 08:19 < JayDugger> That's a stereotype, but fair enough. 08:20 < JayDugger> Small-minded easily gets used as a pejorative. 08:22 < JayDugger> A small, therefore cute, little helper might match well what you plan to make and sell, but conveying that goes past my skill. 08:22 < JayDugger> Could you work back along the etymological history of your choices, and perhaps find something suitable? 08:23 < pasky> thetapi was my attempt to encode founder initials to the name, while ailao was the nicest proper noun containing "ai" i could find 08:24 < JayDugger> ϴΠ makes sense, but Greek letters make an etymological dead end. 08:25 < JayDugger> Unless you want to go to Phoenician or Linear B, I guess. 08:25 < pasky> we really like e.g. "intel", I generally prefer names that aren't pasted-together english words... (like, "google" or "kaggle" is cool imho) 08:25 < pasky> but it's difficult to come up with something that sounds good, is pronouncable and rememberable 08:26 < JayDugger> Kleinmynd? 08:26 < pasky> (btw, we're also gonna enter equity negotiation, but since we are four people but real future contributions of two of them are not totally clear yet, my idea was to split just 1/3 of the equity now, 1/3 in 6 months and the last in 12 months - have you heard someone doing that yet, or obviously bad idea for some reason?) 08:27 < pasky> kleinmynd is cool! 08:27 < pasky> I'll definitely add that to my list 08:27 < kanzure> pasky: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/venture-deals.pdf 08:27 < JayDugger> From german for little and Old English for mind. 08:27 < pasky> yeah 08:27 < kanzure> founder equity is usually done with a cliff or something (see venture-deals.pdf) 08:28 < kanzure> or repurchase agreements 08:28 < JayDugger> If your associates have a set of preferred languages, you can chase down the etymology of candidates to mutate them into new forms. The appropriate Wikitonary pages make an okay place to start. 08:28 < JayDugger> of candidate words, rather 08:29 < TMA> pasky: naming things is way harder than creating them in the first place 08:30 < pasky> kanzure: i'll take a look, thanks - but hey, what an awfully typeset pdf 08:30 < pasky> JayDugger: we didn't really try that yet, great suggestion 08:30 < JayDugger> You're welcome. I hope all your hard work yields great rewards. 08:31 < JayDugger> There's an ISBN in that PDF. If you can't read it at all, you can probably get a better copy of the book by searching on the ISBN. 08:32 < JayDugger> Or pdftotext $FILENAME. 08:34 < pasky> that's what I did :) 08:35 < JayDugger> :) Well, that counts as my good deed for the day, then. Good night. 08:35 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:36 < kanzure> (it doesn't really count) 09:07 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ejn27.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:11 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@ejn27.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:23 -!- LordByron [~BUILDER@CPEbc4dfbf24b33-CMbc4dfbf24b30.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:24 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@vps.jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:25 < LordByron> I wonder if BTC is taxable by the IRS. 09:26 < LordByron> it appears so. 09:27 < LordByron> and people who hide this income must be reported to IRS it seems: 09:27 < LordByron> https://www.irs.gov/Individuals/How-Do-You-Report-Suspected-Tax-Fraud-Activity%3F 09:29 < LordByron> tax is based on *where you make the income so... If you've been living in USA while mining those e-currencies. hmm. 09:31 < LordByron> be sure to report your friend(s), you can do it anonymously it seems. 09:32 < LordByron> If for not unreported income from various places. Even offshore incorporations. Should be reported. 09:32 -!- LordByron [~BUILDER@CPEbc4dfbf24b33-CMbc4dfbf24b30.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 09:38 -!- andreh [~andreh@189.61.49.140] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:38 < TMA> at first Americans made a revolution because the taxes on molasses were halved [there was an unfortunate drive-by clause though: the prosecution for nonpayment was taken from the colonist's courts (where the smuggler was friends with the judge) to the admirality court (which was all British), which made the revolution easier than tax avoidance] now they have the IRS 09:39 -!- andreh [~andreh@189.61.49.140] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:42 -!- andreh [~andreh@189.61.49.140] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:47 < streety> the forms required for non-US accounts are a serious pain. Must be Windows/IE/adobe reader. 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The trilogy consists of Labyrinth of Reflections, False Mirrors, and Transparent Stained-Glass Windows." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labyrinth_of_reflections 21:01 < kanzure> c\\ 21:01 < kanzure> \\dmkdfmlka 21:01 < kanzure> ieqq 21:02 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@37.218.161.94] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:03 < nmz787> also, got my spin-coater spinning a few nights ago 21:03 < nmz787> took the motor apart after finding it worked-but-was-loud and spun the bearings in some rubbing alcohol, then in joboba oil 21:04 < nmz787> it got a good bit quieter, but not perfect. 21:04 < nmz787> so now I think I can at least do some spin-coating of photoresist (which I have some from ebay, from a few months ago, not sure it is still good or not) and then laser CNC exposing! 21:05 < nmz787> though I still haven't figured out a good g-code export scheme 22:31 -!- andreh_ [~andreh@2804:7f3:8485:d028:5852:dce9:1ae:3343] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31 -!- andreh [~andreh@2804:7f3:8485:d028:5852:dce9:1ae:3343] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:52 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:12 -!- andares [~andares@2607:fb90:782c:ff67:4bbe:adbd:44a3:f954] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:12 -!- andares [~andares@2607:fb90:782c:ff67:4bbe:adbd:44a3:f954] has quit [Changing host] 23:12 -!- andares [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:15 -!- esmerelda [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:26 -!- btcdrak [uid115429@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ndzxvdlrbwfpugkp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:53 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@46.140.52.182] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Mon Apr 11 00:00:25 2016