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07:40 < kanzure> maaku: that's impossible, you're always putting us to sleep :)
07:40 < kanzure> ha ha ha
07:40  * kanzure weeps
07:42 < kanzure> https://github.com/internetarchive/warcprox
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08:06 < maaku> Heh
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10:32 < fenn> scary
10:33 < fenn> a vat of hooves and bones and horns, boiled until there's nothing left but goo
10:40 < xentrac_> I think that there's always solid stuff left when you boil bones
10:42 < mz_o__> Yea I think youre right
10:42 < mz_o__> Whats the vat for though?
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11:42 < Aurelius_Work2> What do you think about the smart contracts landscape, kanzure ?
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12:56 < kanzure> Aurelius_Work2: lots of strong marketing for what's essentially just programming.... bitcoin scripts have been doing this forever. but don't tell anyone i guess.
12:56 < maaku> Aurelius_Work2: hard to say anything until you define 'smart contract'
12:56 < maaku> (it's become a meaningless buzzword)
12:56 < kanzure> i too have become a meaningless buzzword
12:57 < Aurelius_Work2> What about, for example, solidity?
12:57 < maaku> what is solidity?
12:58 < Aurelius_Work2> https://ethereum.github.io/solidity/
12:58 < maaku> Aurelius_Work2: avoid anything connected to etherium
12:59 < Aurelius_Work2> Not ethereum specifically, but the sort of smart contracts they discuss
13:01 < maaku> Aurelius_Work2: if you can find an actual example of a real world useful smart contract from that crowd that isn't an overly complex multisignature, wake me
13:01 < kanzure> they are willing to say essentially anything. they have some pretty syntax but that's mostly for people who can't tolerate defualt bitcoin scripting through opcodes.
13:01 < kanzure> *default
13:07 < maaku> Aurelius_Work2: truly sorry to be snarky. this is my are of expertise and what I work on in my day job.
13:07 < maaku> it is really interesting and there's lots of really cool stuff that can be done
13:08 < maaku> lightning network for example is one application of smart contracts with near-term utility (http://lightning.network/)
13:08 < maaku> but much of the hype around smart contracting (DAC, DAO, etc.) is pure BS
13:10 < Aurelius_Work2> maaku : I sort of figured. Thought I'd ask, seen people, well, buzzing
13:13 < kanzure> buzz buzz
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13:35 < kanzure> maybe meeting eleitl soon
13:35 < kanzure> please prepare the hand-off materials
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14:15 < chris_99> http://technology.nasa.gov/latest/public_domain
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14:50 < kanzure> don't know where i saw this the other day but someone was quoted saying something like "well if technology is so great, then why aren't things more expensive? all technology that has positive use should be much more highly priced because of the efficiencies it creates".
14:50 < kanzure> this breaks things like stringing together multiple different technologies, because you increase the cost in aggregate of doing anything interesting....
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17:32 < fenn> i don't suppose this person has been shopping around for industrial equipment lately
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17:38 < kanzure> unikely. it was mostly talking about home appliances. "if doing laundry quickly is such a timesaver, then these things should cost way more."
17:39 < c0rw1n> the fuck. "and then, someone else comes along and sells laundry machines for cheaper to capture the market" - how is that not blindingly obvious
17:41 < kanzure> if you sell for cheaper, you have less money to grab the rest of the market :)
17:47 < c0rw1n> yeah but then when the first one can't sell their laundry machines anymore, it bankrupts and the second one can then sell theirs for however expensive they want. until it repeats. "in capitalism, things end up priced at their marginal production costs" : that's the theory
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19:36 < kanzure> https://anatomytoyou.com/2016/05/10/section-through-an-octopus-shows-the-mouth-passing-through-the-brain/
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19:48 < kanzure> CT scan of a starfish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d0kHTNmkkk
19:54 < kanzure> https://anatomytoyou.com/2016/01/20/giraffe-vessels/
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21:48 < maaku_> so amazing that nearly every week there is some new AI project from a major corporation being open sourced
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22:58 < meese> Has anyone seen the lobster recently?
23:03 < fenn> no
23:04 < fenn> apparently he's currently active on freenode
23:04 < fenn> anyway i am asleep
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