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01:15 < adlai_> this is a good channel. these are good people, except for the robots, who are probably quite excellent themselves
01:15  * adlai_ transmits live from a "phunny pharm", in his rationed minutes... or do they ration by packet?
01:16 < adlai_> at least they let me have metallica
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03:27 < kanzure> not 4000 wells, more like 1 million wells
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04:56 < kanzure> "Even OpenWorm [1] isn't working yet." what's broken about it?
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06:13 < archels_> http://i.imgur.com/A0sPrUh.jpg
06:13 < archels_> I don't know where to even begin captioning this
06:13 < archels_> kanzure: the worm isn't doing enough wormlike things yet
06:13 < kanzure> what is it doing then?
06:17 < kanzure> .wa planck pressure
06:17 < yoleaux> kanzure: Sorry, no result!
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07:06 < archels_> I think they have some CFM things that are working
07:06 < archels_> er computational fluid dynamics
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09:24 < nmz787_i> sup
09:30 < kanzure> manually shifting tectonic plates
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10:15 < nmz787_i> kanzure: my response to that: http://25.media.tumblr.com/bd46e8476f656d1e3103a5ac4d2f2b98/tumblr_mkz7agSe4i1r79nqko3_250.gif
10:15 < kanzure> nmz787_i: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJRh-37H4fA
10:17 < nmz787_i> .tell yashgaroth you could have an identical set of wells below the wells you're talking about, with gel sandwiched between, vertically... then electrophoresis from the top well down to the bottom
10:17 < yoleaux> nmz787_i: I'll pass your message to yashgaroth.
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10:24 < mahydraal> hello
10:24 < mahydraal> is anyone in here?
10:25 < Urchin> yes
10:25 < nmz787_i> definitely
10:26 < nmz787_i> mahydraal: what is it you seeketh?
10:31 < mahydraal> i have come seeking guidance
10:31 < mahydraal> and information
10:31 < mahydraal> and delicious phyles
10:32 < nmz787_i> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/
10:32 < nmz787_i> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/
10:33 < nmz787_i> http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/
10:33 < nmz787_i> have fun with this one: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/M&M%202015/Index.html
10:34 < mahydraal> thank you oh wise irc wizards
10:34 < mahydraal> also, I am invested in WBE and computaational neuroscience
10:35 < mahydraal> am i in the right plaace?
10:35 < nmz787_i> Whole Brain Emulation?
10:35 < nmz787_i> if I am correct, then yes, this is a good place
10:37 < mahydraal> excellent
10:37 < mahydraal> aais there a reason we seem to be alone?
10:38 < c0rw1n> timzeones
10:38 < c0rw1n> *timezones
10:40 < mahydraal> ahhhh
10:40 < mahydraal> what aare the active hours?
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10:41 < c0rw1n> sporadic
10:41 < kanzure> if you want to ask a question, then just ask it.
10:41 < kanzure> we don't do "roll call" around these parts
10:46 < mahydraal> oh alright
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11:11 < mahydraal> so what is everyone up too?
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11:20 < kanzure> http://cancerx.mit.edu/research/
11:23 < maaku> mahydraal: you will find people working here on everything from DNA printing to automated manufacturing to AGI
11:25 < mahydraal> excellent
11:25 < mahydraal> this is fantastic
11:25 < kanzure> mahydraal: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/hplusroadmap mentions at least a few things that people are up to
11:25 < mahydraal> are you guys actually modifying your own genetics?
11:25 < mahydraal> how are you doing that?
11:26 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/genetic-modifications/
11:27 < mahydraal> i see all these mods
11:27 < mahydraal> but how do i install?
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11:33 < mahydraal> lol
11:52 < nmz787_i> mahydraal: still working on the 'compiler' so to speak, myself at least and a few  others
11:53 < mahydraal> may i help in some way?
11:53 < mahydraal> is it a CRISPR derivative?
11:54 < nmz787_i> I personally work on micro and nano fabrication techniques, materials science and lab instrumentation/electronics
11:54 < nmz787_i> idea is to downscale synthetic chemistry or enzyme-based assembly techniques
11:55 < nmz787_i> CRISPR isn't on my radar, but mostly because it is pretty high-level (I am focusing on getting DNA from nucleotides)
11:55 < mahydraal> oh
11:56 < mahydraal> so I cant help out with what you are up to?
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14:37 < maaku> .title https://qntm.org/destroy
14:37 < yoleaux> How to destroy the Earth @ Things Of Interest
14:38 < maaku> i was happy to find truth in advertising here
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15:47 < kanzure> phantomcircuit is wondering what the purpose of sleep really is,
15:48 < kanzure> so in the spirit of that question, please propose terribly unethical human experiments
15:48 < kanzure> iirc we did not make much progress in sleep deprivation experiments
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15:55 < jcorgan> polyphasic sleep ftw :)
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16:06 < mahydraal> hello
16:14 < kanzure> polyphasic sleep is insufficiently unethical
16:15 < mahydraal> what
16:15 < mahydraal> ?
16:15 < mahydraal> wat m8?
16:16 < kanzure> mahydraal: you can use the logs to read messages you may have missed http://gnusha.org/logs/2016-05-31.log
16:17 < mahydraal> i se
16:17 < mahydraal> i see
16:17 < mahydraal> what handy logs
16:19 < jrayhawk> kanzure: is it okay if i gzip /home/bryan/public_html/papers2/bitcoin/bitcoin.it-wiki/dump_20140308_en.xml
16:23 < kanzure> yes
16:23 < kanzure> "Buying cures versus renting health: Financing health care with consumer loans" http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/scitransmed/8/327/327ps6.full.pdf
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16:45 < maaku> kanzure the obvious one is to induce sudden chemical death in test subjects that have undergone a variety of durations of sleep deprivation
16:45 < maaku> And do neural autopsies.
16:47 < maaku> Certainly this has been done on mice already?
16:48 < kanzure> yeah i'm not entirely convinced that neuroscience people have been doing lots of anatomy studies.... i keep looking but i keep getting disappointed.
16:48 < kanzure> i get the sense that lots of neuroanatomy happened between 1940-1970 and not lately
16:49 < kanzure> but right, yes, it seems like the way to do it would be to go spelunking for antibody labeling or even aptamer labeling to find interesting/curious things
16:50 < kanzure> you could probably get a total inventory of fluorophore-labeled proteins-of-interest.... or upregulated mRNA transcript stuff.. giant hybridization arrays i guess would be a nice start re: sleep.
16:55 < kanzure> search results for "comparative neuroanatomy" are always super disappointing. what's so hard about "take a thousand brains from a hundred different animals and relentlessly diff them"?
17:00 < maaku> In this particular experiment it is hard to avoid correlations that don't matter. For example whatever mechanism is used for sleep deprivation probably induced stress, and how do you tell the stress biomarkers from the sleep deprivation?
17:01 < maaku> Well okay I guess that one is easy. Do the same thing with stressed mice.
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17:28 < kanzure> "For example, rates for a 4,400 teu gearless panamax ship of $5,400 per day, are a staggering 63% below the market rates of a year ago, and in many cases are below the daily operating cost."
17:28 < kanzure> aka "you can rent a Panamax cargo ship for $5,400 a day"
17:29 < kanzure> http://www.ship.gr/news6/diana_c27a.jpg
17:29 < Jawmare> on a fucking boat m8
17:30 < Jawmare> imagine having a party on a panamax ship
17:30 < kanzure> roaming paint ball attraction
17:31 < Jawmare> also a good idea
17:31 < Jawmare> real life CS
17:32 < kanzure> google.com/search?q=is+it+safe+to+jump+off+the+side+of+a+ ... wait a second. probably no.
17:33 < Jawmare> Cargo ship operator should come up with better ideas :D
17:34 < Jawmare> floating prison is another good idea in America
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17:36 < c0rw1n> floating genehacking clinic
17:36 < c0rw1n> you know you want to
17:46 < kanzure> http://www.nap.edu/catalog/12071/assessment-of-the-nasa-astrobiology-institute#toc
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18:02 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11810754
18:02 < superkuh> What's the latest sci-hub URL?
18:02 < yoleaux> Ship scrapping accelerates ahead of Panama Canal launch | Hacker News
18:02 < superkuh> I've tried sci-hub.io with 6 different IP and I'm not getting there.
18:02 < justanotheruser> superkuh: hilight me if/when you find it
18:03 < superkuh> .cc
18:03 < superkuh> Works.
18:03 < nmz787_i> i think i used .la yesterday
18:03 < superkuh> .ac too
18:04 < nmz787_i> ah, one I didn't try yesterday
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18:13 < kanzure> probably have to switch to tor at some point
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18:29 < superkuh> Took me about 4 seconds runtime on ~2009 GPU to brute a scihub**********etc.onion.
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18:38 < jcorgan> i did some research on a container ship a few years ago, rather interesting
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18:42 < jcorgan> http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1667357
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19:32 < kanzure> https://github.com/davidlazar/jotmuch/pull/6
19:32 < kanzure> hmm.
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19:45 < kanzure> are .onions the only part that can be publicly distributed, or is the full key also distributable?
19:53 < superkuh> scallion just gives you the .onion and the private key. An example: http://superkuh.com/scihubcrap.txt
19:57 < kanzure> the .onion is a hash of a public key, right?
19:57 < kanzure> hm i guess it can't be a hash
19:59 < kanzure> .title https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-dev/2015-October/009762.html
19:59 < yoleaux> [tor-dev] Status of Open Hidden Service Proposals (October 2015)
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