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09:14 < kanzure> blorrt
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09:20 < mz_o_> blort some snow
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09:52 < kanzure> thesnark: you died?
09:55 < maaku> .title http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/semiconductors/optoelectronics/mit-lidar-on-a-chip
09:55 < yoleaux> MIT and DARPA Pack Lidar Sensor onto Single Chip - IEEE Spectrum
10:01 < kanzure> and all the autonomous cars will drop the price of those pretty fast
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10:14 < maaku> .title https://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/4w6tsv/ama_we_are_the_google_brain_team_wed_love_to/
10:15 < yoleaux> AMA: We are the Google Brain team. We'd love to answer your questions about machine learning. : MachineLearning
10:28 < kanzure> andrew doesn't like that the other polymerase paper was retracted (actually it looked like it just had some questions raised by the journal, not a retraction, but whatever)
10:29 < kanzure> these seem to be roughly the same idea though: https://www.google.com/patents/US20150065353 https://www.google.com/patents/US20150017655 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3738269/
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10:32 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v10/n6/full/nnano.2015.64.html
10:32 < yoleaux> Retraction: DNA sequencing using electrical conductance measurements of a DNA polymerase : Nature Nanotechnology : Nature Research
10:32 < kanzure> "Significant concerns were raised about the validity of the data reported in this work shortly after publication. After an internal inquiry, a formal investigation was launched at the National Chiao Tung University, which focused on the reproducibility of the data. The results of the work could not be reproduced in a reasonable timeframe, and the authors could not provide the investigating committee with a complete set of raw data for ...
10:32 < kanzure> ... the original experiments. The authors Y.-S. C., J.-C. C. and G. S. H. have therefore agreed to retract the manuscript; C.-H. L., M.-Y. H. and H.-A. P. did not respond to the journal's attempts to contact them about this retraction."
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14:52 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=91199c26 Bryan Bishop: july gathering transcript ('the big one') >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/2016-july-bitcoin-developers-miners-meeting/cali2016/
14:54 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/761681789706350592
14:54 < yoleaux> California #bitcoin gathering transcript: 3 days, 80 pages, ~42,000 words http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/2016-july-bitcoin-developers-miners-meeting/cali2016/ @bitcoincoreorg (@kanzure)
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16:03 < kanzure> bloop
16:08 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=4764af26 Bryan Bishop: add line break >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/2016-july-bitcoin-developers-miners-meeting/cali2016/
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16:38 < pasky> I have been following the crowd-reverse-engineering of the anti-cheating token in pokemon go api and it's been quite fun, very different from normal open source development
16:38 < pasky> interesting experience
16:39 < pasky> kanzure: I think you should start archiving also audio recordings of what you are transcribing, and when you have a minute or two left, at least roughly align them (h:mm:ss mark at a few places)
16:40 < pasky> roughly == at a few places, the time should be precise
16:40 < kanzure> audio recording of the above event was strictly forbidden, but otherwise i agree with you
16:41 < kanzure> re: reverse engineering of any anti-cheating token, my suggestion is to use apktool and baksmali to call into any weird functions that already exist in the pokemon app. next, manually call the function from your own cheat-hacked android app. problem solved.
16:43 < pasky> everything interesting is happenning in stripped native code
16:43 < pasky> hidden beneath a single entry point from java
16:43 < pasky> (or rather, unity)
16:45 < kanzure> yeah, baksmali seems necessary here.
16:45 < kanzure> er... smali.
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16:47 < pasky> i thought smali is about jvm bytecode
16:49 < kanzure> oh, native native code, not native jvm bytecode. hrm.
16:49 < pasky> yes
16:49 < kanzure> welp, i guess gdb?
16:50 < kanzure> yeah you need to start stepping through things
16:50 < kanzure> interesting problem, but i think it's solvable
16:53 < pasky> people use IDA for decompiling and frida.re for instrumenting some runtime data dumps (using javascript for that feels a bit perverse, but hey it works)
16:54 < pasky> https://github.com/pkmngodev/Unknown6 most of it is already solved, but the interactions at discord are fun to watch (discord is something like slack for kids&gamers, didn't know it before)
16:55 < pasky> my main impression is that it's a lot more hivemind-ish than usual development of oss projects of such scale, the people rotate around the day and somehow they keep pushing it forward fairly continuously
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17:23 < kanzure> when i was doing my analysis of the batman games i was using discordapp a bunch, yeah. the speedrunning community seems to use discordapp.
17:23 < kanzure> ( https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgO7JBj821uHS8JrkAzGPLevc9Ky_D6qz )
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17:41 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati_(game)
17:57 < nmz787> kanzure: even the folks at work I talked to knew exactly what paper I was talking about as soon as I mentioned something like 'asian paper which affixed a polymerase to a transistor gate via an anomalous antibody'
17:58 < kanzure> well there's a second paper so perhaps they don't know about that one (by a different group)
17:59 < nmz787> well I didn't mention any second paper to prompt such discussion
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21:23 < justanotheruser> http://us.metamath.org/ neat
21:33 < kanzure> bloort
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22:39 < kanzure> "i wonder if the darknet markets have a W3C working group" - bitcoin core slack asking the important questions
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23:24 < justanotheruser> kanzure: are you killing any rats yet
23:25 < kanzure> hrm?
23:28 < justanotheruser> your rat genocide project
23:28 < justanotheruser> still working on that?
23:29 < kanzure> i equally support the genocide of all biological lifeforms indiscriminately, if that's what you're asking
23:29 < kanzure> haven't made progress on deploying that infrastructure. might take a whie.
23:29 < kanzure> .. while.
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23:55 < kanzure> JayDugger: what's up
23:58 < kanzure> https://security.googleblog.com/2016/08/guided-in-process-fuzzing-of-chrome.html
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