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The design of these chips is expressed using the language of partial differential equations (PDEs) and non-linear multi-variate polynomials over the reals. We convert such designs into SMT2 format through appropriate approximations, and invoke Z3 and dReal solver on them. Through our experiments we show that using SMT solvers is a not only a viable ... 02:48 < nmz787_> ... strategy to address the microfluidics design problem, but likely will be key component of any future development environment." 02:48 < nmz787_> well that's encouraging 02:49 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:c8eb:88e3:d389:567a] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:50 < nmz787_> https://wiki.hh.se/wg211/images/f/fb/M13Rayside.pdf 02:50 < nmz787_> "Synthesis of Microfluidics Chips using SMT Solvers" 02:54 -!- augur [~augur@76-218-206-38.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:14 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:24 < chris_99> heh what the hell, was just gonna order some leds from thorlabs, but the shipping is $92.37 eek 03:24 < yoleaux> 06:52Z chris_99: I worked on this a while years ago: https://github.com/nmz787/open-spectrometer/blob/master/desktop-software/openSpectrometer.py 03:24 < yoleaux> 09:15Z chris_99: nice progress! looks like I definitely see either digitization noise or maybe compression... does it look better in RAW BMP mode? 03:24 < chris_99> nmz787_, that's just the jpeg, yeah at full res raw it looks pretty good, i can play with the iso / shutter speed etc too 03:25 < chris_99> i knocked up something last night to generate the spectral graph 03:28 < chris_99> i'll have a looky at your code now though, i need to get some IR leds 03:48 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:59 -!- sandeepkr_ [~sandeepkr@182.75.187.110] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:03 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@182.75.187.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:12 -!- sandeepkr__ [~sandeepkr@182.75.187.110] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:16 -!- sandeepkr_ [~sandeepkr@182.75.187.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:35 -!- Gurkenglas 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http://livestream.com/viewnow/NIAC2016/videos/133764483 12:36 < superkuh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObvKVe5H8pc - This talk explains the problems and solutions for using the sun as a gravitational lens. 12:37 < superkuh> This book has far more detail: http://erewhon.superkuh.com/library/Space/Spacecraft/Deep%20Space%20Flight%20and%20Communications_%20Exploiting%20the%20Sun%20as%20a%20Gravitational%20Lens_%20Claudio%20Maccone_%202009.pdf 12:38 < Urchin> interesting 12:39 -!- winsen [~winsen@unaffiliated/winsen] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:18 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@2a00:f41:38e6:4720:de85:deff:fe55:967a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:21 < kanzure> various comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12353441 13:22 < kanzure> "Incessant obsolesence" http://arxiv.org/abs/1101.1066 13:25 -!- themeat [~themeat@unaffiliated/themeat] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:29 < Urchin> that's one very minimal colony ship 13:29 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@2a00:f41:38e6:4720:de85:deff:fe55:967a] has quit [Read 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kind of data rate to probes eventually sent. 15:42 < superkuh> And e-sail tech is at least TRL4/5 already. Laser sail stuff is a pipe dream currently. TRL1. 15:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-101-180-249-107.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-101-180-249-107.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 15:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.180] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.180] has quit [Changing host] 15:54 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:08 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@67.130.62.81.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:11 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b9:75ba:de85:deff:fe55:967a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:13 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-178-005-223-183.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:14 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-094-223-128-173.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:28 < maaku> A much better strategy : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12327125 16:32 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:35 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:56 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:00 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.97.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.97.4] has quit [Changing host] 17:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:33 -!- tigger is now known as poohbear 17:40 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-darlkygeeqfouneq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:46 -!- winsen [~winsen@unaffiliated/winsen] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:51 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:06 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:10 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:34 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45 -!- justanotheruser [~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:50 < kanzure> bloop 18:50 < kanzure> caught a veekun. 19:04 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:05 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@2a00:f41:38b9:75ba:de85:deff:fe55:967a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:53 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:58 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25 -!- oleo [~oleo@unaffiliated/oleo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:100e:c500:f5b8:6928:6ef:6d3b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:100e:c500:f5b8:6928:6ef:6d3b] has quit [Changing host] 20:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:30 -!- btcdrak [uid165369@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ncvmplahvpivbtoo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:37 -!- Gurkenglas [Gurkenglas@dslb-094-223-128-173.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:46 < kanzure> "many-core parallel processor" http://parallel.princeton.edu/openpiton/ 20:46 < kanzure> er, http://parallel.princeton.edu/piton/ 20:47 < kanzure> http://parallel.princeton.edu/papers/openpiton-asplos16.pdf 20:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:100e:c500:f5b8:6928:6ef:6d3b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:100e:c500:f5b8:6928:6ef:6d3b] has quit [Changing host] 20:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:55 < kanzure> dunno how much non-icestorm fpga dev kits are supposed to be priced at these days.. http://store.digilentinc.com/nexys-4-ddr-artix-7-fpga-trainer-board-recommended-for-ece-curriculum/ 21:17 < xentrac> hey, so you know this topology optimization stuff? And MEMS? there's this "new" (2013) book out called "Handbook of Compliant Mechanisms" about flexure design 21:18 < xentrac> you might remember Merkle's buckling-spring gates, which fall within this category 21:19 < xentrac> the book has a chapter on topology optimization, but nothing about mechanical digital logic as far as I can tell 21:21 < kanzure> vlsi mechanical logic is a thing that exists by now, surely 21:21 < xentrac> it turns out that flexures have advantages of up to several orders of magnitude over sliding-contact mechanisms in efficiency, fabrication cost, wear lifetime, operational frequency, and precision 21:22 < xentrac> although they have major disadvantages as well 21:22 -!- Regex_ [~Cara@2601:1c0:8501:d159:ed5b:6380:90ed:cc91] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:24 < xentrac> in one of the first sections of the book, it says, "Compliant mechanisms will likely be central to the creation of nanoscale machines." 21:26 -!- Regex [~Cara@2601:1c0:8501:d159:c9f0:dc88:8468:868b] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:40 -!- oleo [~oleo@unaffiliated/oleo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:50 < xentrac> the topopt chapter is a bit weak though 21:51 < xentrac> like, the climactic flexible pliers design at the end of the chapter is actually by Ole Sigmund, the topopt dude 21:51 < xentrac> rather than by the chapter's author 21:52 < xentrac> and it's 2D, and they didn't actually build it 21:55 -!- irseeyou [~irseeyou@c-67-168-101-20.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:58 < xentrac> the second half of the book is a library of known mechanisms but even they kind of suck 21:58 < xentrac> but hey it's a start 22:14 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@31.29.9.62] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:25 < xentrac> hmm actually there are some interesting things in here 22:47 < kanzure> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/busting-the-billion-dollar-myth-how-to-slash-the-cost-of-drug-development/ 22:47 < kanzure> didn't actually look closely, but was there a suggestion in there of pairing rare neglected disease medications together? just mix things together until the finance works out? heh 23:08 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:18 < fenn> maaku: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelot_30K 23:19 < superkuh> I actually had to buy that one in Hardcopy. It's nowhere online except in Portuguese. It is not a very good book. The concept is fun but it's hard to ignore how forced everything is. It's like a prototype for his excellent later books set on neutron stars. 23:19 < fenn> yep he's a terrible author 23:20 < fenn> i bought every robert forward book with the intent of scanning them 23:21 < superkuh> I bought Camelot 30K this winter with every intent of forwarding it to http://1dollarscan.com/pricing.php . But it was bad. So I didn't. 23:21 < fenn> aww 23:21 < fenn> the ideas are what is important 23:21 < fenn> where else are you going to learn about x-ray mirrors 23:21 < superkuh> Usually I'd agree. --- Log closed Thu Aug 25 00:00:35 2016