--- Log opened Fri Sep 16 00:00:55 2016 01:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:258d:680c:7e9c:ae10] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:258d:680c:7e9c:ae10] has quit [Changing host] 01:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:29 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:29 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has quit [Changing host] 01:29 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:32 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:57 < ybit> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKg1hTOQXoY&feature=youtu.be&t=2573 01:57 < yoleaux> Alan Kay at OOPSLA 1997 - The computer revolution hasnt happened yet - YouTube 01:57 < ybit> .title https://web.archive.org/web/20020413132000/http://www.bluetail.com/~joe/vol1/v1_oo.html 01:57 < yoleaux> Test Page 01:57 < ybit> " 01:57 < ybit> Why OO Sucks" 01:58 < ybit> .title https://rylev.github.io/words/blog/2013/10/03/erlang-is-the-most-object-oriented-language/ 01:58 < yoleaux> Erlang is the Most Object Oriented Language - Words 01:58 < ybit> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11966570 01:58 < yoleaux> Alan Kay on the misunderstanding of OOP (1998) | Hacker News 01:58 < ybit> 02:05 < ybit> eh, it's not really spam 02:22 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ryskoftvfjtqfkfj] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 02:39 -!- urchin_ [~urchin@89.17.23.43] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:42 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@89.17.12.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:43 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:30 -!- Regex__ [~Cara@2601:1c0:8501:d159::9683] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:00 < ybit> https://github.com/ipfs/ipfs/issues/151 04:01 < ybit> joe armstrong likes ipfs 04:01 < ybit> .tw https://twitter.com/joeerl/status/692065172609994752 04:01 < yoleaux> The Unintentional side-effects of a bad concurrency model http://joearms.github.com/2016/01/26/The-Unintentional-Side-Effects-of-a-Bad-Concurrency-Model.html @chriseidhof @samaaron @juanbenet (@joeerl) 04:01 < ybit> oops, this 04:01 < ybit> .tw https://twitter.com/joeerl/status/773158101415518208 04:01 < yoleaux> Brilliant talk by @juanbenet at @FullStackFest - very exciting @ipfs solves a key problem - the web of hashes is getting nearer (@joeerl) 04:02 < gradstudentbot> Who's doing journal club today? 04:20 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:17 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:19 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:41 -!- Urchin is now known as CRM114 06:18 -!- urchin_ is now known as Urchin 06:18 -!- Urchin [~urchin@89.17.23.43] has quit [Changing host] 06:18 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:20 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/DoubleJake/status/776769581977374720 06:20 < yoleaux> #FreeLauri - Judge has decided to extradite Lauri. 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activity here with all the quitspam.... I'm looking at you, ebowden 18:14 * kanzure nods 18:14 < kanzure> we could ban him 18:17 < docl> Phil Metzger again: http://www.bnn.ca/video/mining-in-space-is-completely-realistic~953030 18:17 < docl> .title 18:17 < yoleaux> Mining in space is completely realistic - Video - BNN 18:21 < kanzure> https://petertodd.org/2016/opentimestamps-announcement 18:37 < fenn> "a lawsuit filed in July against Tesla by the family of the 23-year-old driver who died in January, state-run China Central Television reported. The family has asked for 10,000 yuan ($1,498) in compensation [from Tesla]" i guess the chinese haven't adopted our litigious culture yet 18:41 < kanzure> i was talking with petertodd today about using opentimestamps for proof-of-inclusion but he doesn't think such proofs are necessary (for his timestamping service) 18:41 < kanzure> opentimestamps has git integration. so it timestamps the git tree hash. and then you can do a merkle proof based on that to lead to a specific file. 18:45 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:50 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:50 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [+o fenn] by ChanServ 18:52 <@fenn> hm 18:52 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:53 < kanzure> bans for everyone? 18:53 <@fenn> meh 18:54 <@fenn> i decided it was too much work and really it's just the lack of activity 18:54 <@fenn> personally i use /sb levelclear -level joins,quits,parts 18:55 -!- mode/##hplusroadmap [-o fenn] by fenn 18:57 < kanzure> someone should timestamp wikipedia edits 18:58 < fenn> anoncicada: have you ever said anything in here? 19:00 < fenn> so apparently PeerInfinity knocked on my door the other day, but i didnt figure it out until many hours later 19:01 < kanzure> doors are not reliable communication devices 19:09 < fenn> reading these logs from 2009 it's pretty apparent that my brain is not as active as it used to be 19:11 < docl> ooh, that command is helpful. any chance we can get the online logs cleaned up? 19:12 < fenn> you can grep -v -E 'joined|quit|part' > $i.cleaned.log 19:12 < fenn> i'm sure some regex purists will hate me now 19:13 < fenn> i'd rather not change the online logs, and there's already a lot of duplicate logs 19:14 < kanzure> yes; those logs aren't changing. 19:15 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:30 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:31 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:45 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/776900184836046849 19:45 < yoleaux> "http://bitcoin.org/ yet another p2p currency piece of crap" @kanzure on Jan 10th, 2009 The first Bitcoin hater. http://gnusha.org/logs/2009-01-10.log (@petertoddbtc) 19:45 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/776902367509942272 19:45 < yoleaux> Discussing OpenTimestamps with @kanzure on IRC, including how he can now timestamp that same chat log with Bitcoin. (@petertoddbtc, in reply to tw:776900184836046849) 19:45 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/776903526261850112 19:45 < yoleaux> Note the "crap, I have to write a eulogy." - I think @kanzure had very good reasons not to be paying much attention to Bitcoin... (@petertoddbtc, in reply to tw:776902367509942272) 19:45 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/mike_g_money/status/776902787552518144 19:45 < yoleaux> @petertoddbtc @kanzure "Another" p2p currency? What other one was there at the time? (@mike_g_money, in reply to tw:776900184836046849) 19:46 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/776903713017499648 19:46 < yoleaux> @mike_g_money @kanzure You don't hear about them anymore because none of them worked. (@petertoddbtc, in reply to tw:776903650736271360) 19:46 < kanzure> anyway just to clear this up.... 19:46 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/kanzure/status/776974853182062593 19:46 < yoleaux> @petertoddbtc My dad died on the 8th. I learned about bitcoin on the 10th. And then I wrote a eulogy to honor my father. (@kanzure, in reply to tw:776903526261850112) 19:59 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:24 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:26 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:26 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:32 < kanzure> "Currency based on CPU and man hours (for digital goods)" https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/backups/p2p_research-archives/2009-February/001405.html 20:37 < kanzure> lolz, this email from me https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/backups/p2p_research-archives/2009-February/001391.html 20:39 < cynsia> you know 20:39 < cynsia> I'm tentatively working a p2p youtube 20:39 < kanzure> it's hilarious because i sent it a few days after satoshi nakamoto's emails. on the same mailing list. 20:39 < cynsia> but, people keep talking about p2p for streaming, I want to use it for caching 20:39 < kanzure> "you know what you should really do is go find a cypherpunk to implement this stuff..." - me to satoshi 20:41 < kanzure> fenn: yeah lot of marc fawzi content here https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/backups/p2p_research-archives/2009-February/thread.html 20:42 < kanzure> and my one email that month is hilarious for lack of awareness 20:43 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.177.254.142] has quit [Changing host] 21:00 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:11 < kanzure> marc taunts me from the grave https://twitter.com/marcfawzi/status/776987900739190784 21:25 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:28 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:36 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 21:38 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:44 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@pool-100-33-126-219.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:48 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:08 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@pool-100-33-126-219.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 22:21 < kanzure> some stuff in favor of foregoing words and "verbal manifest destiny" and "domination of written language": 22:21 < kanzure> http://cabowers.net/pdf/Language_short%20version.pdf 22:21 < kanzure> http://www.lynnekelly.com.au/Lynne_Kelly/Research.html 22:29 -!- augur [~augur@c-24-7-90-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:3d9a:df45:e47c:f2b4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:37 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:40 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:41 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:54 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@213.200.193.129] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:59 -!- ProfSechs [~Megamind@135-23-79-18.cpe.pppoe.ca] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:00 < ProfSechs> If you were challenged with making of 1 million dollars, how would you go about this? 23:00 < ProfSechs> Anyone? 23:06 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:10 < kanzure> start with a billion dollars 23:12 < ProfSechs> how about 500 dollars a month to spend? 23:17 < ProfSechs> There's got to be a way... 23:25 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:33 < ProfSechs> I know a few ways, but too much work. Isn't there something risky I could just go for and make a million bucks quickly? 23:39 < ProfSechs> Are you rich Kanzure? 23:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1021:d400:8c13:3e7d:843:2b56] has quit [Changing host] 23:41 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:48 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:49 < JayDugger> How fast do you have to make the hypothetical million dollars? 23:51 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.81] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:52 < ProfSechs> How fast? well, faster is better. my life is passing by... 23:52 < ProfSechs> But doesn't necessary have to be tomorrow. 23:52 < ProfSechs> JayDugger, i'd try and give myself 2 years on this. 23:53 < ProfSechs> crowdfunding is always a 'choice' minus the ways to bring in the visitors. 23:53 < ProfSechs> of which you need money for. --- Log closed Sat Sep 17 00:00:55 2016