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06:49 < kanzure> hm.
07:06 < JayDugger> Hunh.
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07:18 < kanzure> "Vulnerabilities introduced by migrating to 64-bit platforms" https://www.tu-braunschweig.de/Medien-DB/sec/pubs/2016-ccs.pdf
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08:13 < kanzure> eudoxia: sounds like you need new paying work soon?
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10:05 < ybit> .title https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/09/someone_is_lear.html
10:05 < yoleaux> Someone Is Learning How to Take Down the Internet - Schneier on Security
10:06 < ybit> more comments at that site than the hackernews discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12491084
10:11 < ybit> https://github.com/Yelp/undebt "A fast, straightforward, reliable tool for performing massive, automated code refactoring" lang:python
10:13 < ybit> linked from...
10:13 < ybit> .title http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=7230
10:13 < yoleaux> Thinking like a master programmer | Armed and Dangerous
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13:21 < kanzure> bloop
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13:22 < ybit> http://www.azimuthproject.org/azimuth/show/Plans+of+action
13:22 < ybit> "This page lists detailed plans of action for tackling global warming and other environmental problems. "
13:22 < ybit> from john baeze, i don't think he's that active on the project anymore though
13:23 < kanzure> do you mean john baez
13:24 < ybit> yep
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16:09 < kanzure> hrm.
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16:32 < ybit> kanzure: DNA23 – 23nd International Conference on DNA Computing and Molecular Programming
16:32 < ybit> in austin a few days from now
16:32 < ybit> https://sites.cns.utexas.edu/dna23
16:32 < ybit> wish i could go
16:34 < ybit> i do plan on attending http://www.cs.duke.edu/FNANO17/ if i'm still in CO around that time
16:35 < ybit> links are coming from https://isnsce.org/
16:35 < ybit> .title
16:35 < yoleaux> ISNSCE – International Society for Nanoscale Science, Computation and Engineering
16:47 < kanzure> hmm.
16:47 < kanzure> well.
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16:52 < kanzure> there is no schedule on the site?
16:55 < ybit> i didn't find one
16:55 < kanzure> previous one http://www.dna-node.com/dna22/program/program.pdf
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17:06 < kanzure> this was early september 2016. so.. a few days ago.
17:06 < kanzure> they are having another one so soon?
17:06 < kanzure> "FlorianPraetoriusandHendrikDietz.GeneticallyencodedDNA-proteinhybridorigami"
17:06 < kanzure> oh..
17:07 < kanzure> "Florian Praetorius and Hendrik Dietz Genetically encoded DNA-protein hybrid origami"
17:11 < kanzure> "Jonathan R. Burns, Astrid Seifert, Niels Fertig and Stefan Howorka. Membrane-spanning DNA nanopores: biomimetic structures that act as molecular valves"
17:13 < kanzure> "Proteins that integrate the RNA world with the DNA world"
17:13 < kanzure> "Jongmin Kim. Ribocomputing devices for sophisticated in vivo logic computation"
17:14 < kanzure> "Yonggang Ke. Design three-dimensional DNA brick structures"
17:14 < kanzure> "George Church. Limits to Polymer I/O"
17:15 < kanzure> "Olgica Milenkovic, Seyed Mohammadhossein. A rewritable, random-access DNA-based storage system"
17:15 < kanzure> "William Shih. DNA barrels: Cylindrical nanopegboards assembled from DNA"
17:16 < kanzure> "Tosan Omabegho, Zev Bryant. Controllable ribonucleoprotein motors engineered from myosin and RNA"
17:16 < kanzure> hey that might be useful.
17:19 < kanzure> "Pekka Orponen. Designs and algorithms for DNA folding of custom 3d polyhedra"
17:19 < kanzure> "Arne Schmidt. New geometric algorithms for fully connected staged self-assembly"
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17:29 < kanzure> ybit: that's for 2017
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17:31 < ybit> thanks!
17:31 < ybit> A DNA-based system for selecting and displaying the combined result of two input variables
17:31 < kanzure> well it explains why there's no content
17:31 < ybit> https://ocean.sci-hub.bz/a29f8b66aa885219e587240b6c2a79ea/10.1038%40ncomms10089.pdf
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17:55 < fenn> tackling global warming, step 1) start building nuclear reactors like crazy
17:55 < fenn> step 2) build floating islands made of polyethylene fixed from the air with all your surplus power
17:56 < kanzure> i think a few earthquakes would be enough, if we change orbit or tilt or something
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18:56 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/katecrawford/status/750077315766296576
18:56 < yoleaux> HUGE. A bug in fMRI software may invalidate 15 years of research. It was producing false positive rates of up to 70% http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/07/03/mri_software_bugs_could_upend_years_of_research/?mt=1467666616578 (@katecrawford)
18:56 < kanzure> i wonder if anyone had validated that firmware source code.
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19:57 < kanzure> where did trsohmers go?
20:00 < kanzure> "kettner's original cofounder went to work with somhers full time when kettner decided to go back to academia"
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20:08 < kanzure> kettner to church-boyden lab to work on TdT-based dna synthesis
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20:45 < yashgaroth> oh, it's that kettner fuck
20:48 < yashgaroth> I will always remember him for "hey let's induce sensitivity to antibiotics by pairing it with an antimicrobial resistance gene, there's no way that would ever backfire horribly"
20:58 < kanzure> hm?
20:58 < kanzure> context?
21:00 < yashgaroth> his plan as I recall was to make a plasmid that would confer sensitivity to an antibiotic, coupled with a gene to give resistance to some common hospital antimicrobial, hence you could select for bacteria that would survive the antimicrobial cleaning but then die to the antibiotic if they got into a person
21:00 < yashgaroth> so giving MRSA access to a resistance gene for triclosan or something, I forget the details
21:01 < yashgaroth> so when one inevitably loses the antibiotic sensitivity but keeps the antimicrobial resistance, you just have ultraresistant bacteria
21:05 < yashgaroth> also his talk about "I'm the next steve jobs and craig venter rolled into one" or w/e it was, I'm sure he'll go far in biotech since he seems like a shit
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22:52 < ybit> .title http://www.yegor256.com/2016/08/15/what-is-wrong-object-oriented-programming.html
22:52 < yoleaux> What's Wrong With Object-Oriented Programming? - Yegor Bugayenko
22:53 < ybit> Linus Torvalds (2007) "C++ is a horrible language. ... C++ leads to really, really bad design choices. ... In other words, the only way to do good, efficient, and system-level and portable C++ ends up to limit yourself to all the things that are basically available in C. And limiting your project to C means that people don't screw that up, and also means that you get a lot of programmers that do actually understand low-level issues and don't screw thin
22:54  * ybit refuses to spread the fp propaganda until we all follow the people's refinement logic
22:54  * ybit refuses to stop spreading the fp propaganda until we all follow the people's refinement logic 
22:54 < ybit> ...rather
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