--- Log opened Mon Oct 03 00:00:11 2016 00:20 -!- Guest87253 is now known as abetusk 00:22 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:28 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkwonbwuaetfntgo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:39 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:23 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-121-223-132-244.lns1.bat.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:25 -!- crCr62U0 [~crCr62U0@mm-107-147-215-37.mfilial.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:26 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-121-223-132-244.lns1.bat.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 01:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:29 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:32 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:22 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:37 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:00 -!- crCr62U0 [~crCr62U0@mm-107-147-215-37.mfilial.dynamic.pppoe.byfly.by] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:14 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:17 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:11 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:14 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 04:50 -!- M4l3z [~M4l3z@LFbn-1-4220-37.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103d:6200:911:becc:424c:d5e1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103d:6200:911:becc:424c:d5e1] has quit [Changing host] 04:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:59 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:01 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@204.72-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:02 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:16 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@108.19.186.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 05:16 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@91.178.226.220] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:22 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jkwonbwuaetfntgo] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:30 -!- jtimon [~quassel@150.110.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:48 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:51 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:28 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-005-222-194.178.005.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:30 < kanzure> bloop. 06:37 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:41 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:44 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:56 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-167-156-144.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:56 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-144-67-186.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:01 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:04 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:08 < kanzure> "Posttranslational mutagenesis: A chemical strategy for exploring protein side-chain diversity" http://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2016/09/22/science.aag1465 07:08 < kanzure> "Posttranslational modification of proteins expands their structural and functional capabilities beyond those directly specified by the genetic code. However, the vast diversity of chemically-plausible (including unnatural but functionally relevant) side-chains is not readily accessible. We describe C (sp3)–C (sp3) bond-forming reactions on proteins under biocompatible conditions, which exploit unusual carbon free radical chemistry, ... 07:09 < kanzure> ... and use them to form Cβ–Cγ bonds with altered side chains. We demonstrate how these transformations enable a wide-diversity of natural, unnatural, posttranslationally-modified (methylated, glycosylated, phosphorylated, hydroxylated) and labeled (fluorinated, isotopically-labeled) side-chains to be added to a common, readily-accessible dehydroalanine precursor in a range of representative protein types and scaffolds. This ... 07:09 < kanzure> ... approach, outside of the rigid constraints of the ribosome and enzymatic processing, may be modified more generally for accessing diverse proteins." 07:10 < kanzure> "Towards deep symbolic reinforcement learning" https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.05518 07:11 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/fchollet/status/775388595871809536 07:11 < yoleaux> A reasonable candidate for replacing backprop in deep learning: ADMM (alternating direction method of multipliers). (@fchollet) 07:12 < kanzure> "Capacity-approaching DNA storage" http://dnafountain.teamerlich.org/ http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/09/09/074237.1 07:12 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:14 < kanzure> "The multilayer connectome of Caenorhabditis elegans" https://arxiv.org/abs/1608.08793 07:15 < kanzure> "Accurate de novo prediction of protein contact map by ultra-deep learning model" http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/09/03/073239 07:17 < kanzure> paperfuge (yes already mentioned but whatever..) http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/08/30/072207 i guess i mentioned the foldscope not the paperfuge. 07:18 < kanzure> "small tool for searching small guide DNA for CRISPR-Cas9 target sequence" https://github.com/hanyue36/sgs 07:56 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:59 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:41 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:45 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:04 < juul> ybit: oh great! i've been traveling but will put up the individual talks soon 09:19 -!- esmerelda [~andares@unaffiliated/jacco] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:35 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:39 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 09:42 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@38.117.157.141] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:19 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@103.49.155.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:26 < kanzure> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/YouAndYourResearch.html 10:29 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:31 -!- scotopia [~scotopia@cpe-66-108-159-118.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:31 -!- ArturSha1 [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:04 -!- scotopia [~scotopia@cpe-66-108-159-118.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04 -!- jtimon [~quassel@150.110.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:24 -!- ArturShaik [~ArturShai@185.66.253.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:53 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:54 < poppingtonic> http://www.openphilanthropy.org/dr-adam-marblestone-mit-synthetic-neurobiology-group-and-mit-media-lab-and-dr-eric-drexler-future 11:54 < yoleaux> 19 Sep 2016 15:22Z poppingtonic: see http://gnusha.org/logs/html/2016-09-19.log.html#t08:19-93 11:56 < poppingtonic> kanzure: good! it's been a while since I was here. 11:59 < poppingtonic> The OpenPhil link is a page linking to a pdf. Some good stuff about a recent workshop with US DOE people about atomically precise manufacturing and an exploratory project to build a 1st generation molecular 3D printer. 12:01 < fenn> is that what they're calling it these days? 12:03 < poppingtonic> what, atomically precise manufacturing? Drexler has been calling it that for years now, I think...and the interview is with him and Adam Marblestone.. 12:04 < fenn> "molecular 3D printer" is a phrase i hadn't heard yet 12:05 < poppingtonic> matter compiler? 12:07 < kanzure> what was wrong with atomically precise manufacturing 12:08 < poppingtonic> the name, or the entire idea? 12:08 < kanzure> the name! 12:08 < poppingtonic> I don't see anything wrong with it, it's more precise. Heh. 12:09 < kanzure> i should probably go ask adam to pitch dna synthesis for molecular manufacturing reasons. not sure if he is doing that already. 12:09 < kanzure> http://www.openphilanthropy.org/sites/default/files/Eric_Drexler_Adam_Marblestone_09-01-16_%28public%29.pdf 12:11 < poppingtonic> kanzure: I remember reading about that somewhere, not sure whether it was Marblestone or Church who wrote it. I'll look in Regenesis again and see.. 12:11 < kanzure> " spiroligomer bricks" 12:14 < poppingtonic> "A molecular 3D printer made entirely out of self-asssembled nanoscale components would be massively parallel by design. [...] If such printers could work with blocks on a 1nm scale, they would compete with the best self-assembly methods." 12:17 < poppingtonic> "despite advances in DNA origami and other areas, there is a considerable probability of failure in the approach pursued by each lab, due to the inherent difficulty of biomolecular research" 12:18 < poppingtonic> kanzure: re DNA synthesis, I think they both are. See the estimates on funding costs spread over 3-6 large, successful labs. 12:21 < kanzure> ok emailed adam 588df395c9a74880b6e7433d8d31ca030392b9d90ab5445293462f4e871b1387 12:28 < poppingtonic> kanzure: from Regenesis pp115: "The synthetic minimal cell would enable the production of materials too large or otherwise incompatible with the more elaborate functioning systems of a complex cell. It also represents our best shot at a general nanotech assembler, the dream of Eric Drexler and many nanotechnology enthusiasts since he first described it in his 1986 book Engines of Creation." 12:29 < kanzure> weird that they want an entire cell for that. 12:29 < kanzure> in vitro protein synthesis already works yo 12:30 < poppingtonic> I think the goal with the cell is to figure out (really "grok") the minimal set of proteins that make a cell "alive", for some sufficient definition of the term given in the book. 12:30 < kanzure> for molecular manufacturing, we can do many tihngs without an entire cell--- for example, there was a paper from a few years ago that showed how to make arbitrary 3d polyhedral objects using dna origami. 12:31 < kanzure> well, not completely arbitrary, there is a size constraint on the low end i think, and probably an upper size constraint on the high end. and also not all possible shapes can be made by polyhedrons. 12:33 < kanzure> poppingtonic: about making biology more like programming http://gnusha.org/logs/html/2016-09-08.log.html#t19:11-111 12:36 < poppingtonic> I see. Not end-user modifiable. DRM'd up the wazoo. 12:42 < poppingtonic> That's a good thread, kanzure. Thanks. 12:45 -!- poppingtonic1 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:47 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:47 -!- poppingtonic1 is now known as poppingtonic 12:48 < kanzure> poppingtonic: yep sure. 12:58 -!- poppingtonic [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:36 < kanzure> schedule is up https://scalingbitcoin.org/event/milan2016#schedule 14:46 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8100:c347:79b6:cdd6:2165:ca0c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:14 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-memyfvgkqdvdmkjp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:19 < kanzure> "Friday is the last day for registration for the Igem Giant Jamboree" 15:20 < kanzure> synbiobeta conference is tomorrow http://synbiobeta.com/conferences/synbiobeta-sf-2016/ 15:23 < kanzure> "on Saturday Seattle carries out a sheep brain dissection for beginning neuro-biologists" 15:23 < kanzure> ( https://www.meetup.com/HiveBio-diyBio-Seattle-Science-Meetup/events/233371985/ ) 15:34 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:36 -!- scotopia [~scotopia@2604:2000:f94b:c800:b0da:e72d:c50b:e58f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:44 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:44 -!- jtimon [~quassel@150.110.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:47 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:30 -!- strangewarp_ [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:31 -!- M4l3z [~M4l3z@LFbn-1-4220-37.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:32 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:33 -!- strangewarp [~strangewa@c-76-25-206-3.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:00 -!- jtimon [~quassel@150.110.132.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:00 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01 -!- redlegion [~x@gateway/tor-sasl/redlegion] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:01 -!- arthurl [~arthurl@38.117.157.141] has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. 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