--- Log opened Sun Dec 04 00:00:29 2016 00:08 -!- jtimon [~quassel@186.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:09 -!- Solvaring [~Solvaring@162.219.178.146] has quit [Quit: I'm off to the fair!] 02:28 < Reventlov> 9@ 02:28 < Reventlov> miss 03:20 -!- M4l3z [~M4l3z@LFbn-1-4220-37.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:44 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:39 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:44 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-094-167.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:26 -!- M4l3z [~M4l3z@LFbn-1-4220-37.w92-169.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:50 -!- archels [charl@toad.stack.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:13 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p352135-ipngn200606kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: wrldpc1] 06:13 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p352135-ipngn200606kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:13 -!- wrldpc1 [~ben@p352135-ipngn200606kyoto.kyoto.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 06:18 < kanzure> seems to be updated: 06:18 < kanzure> "Rapidly evolving homing CRISPR barcodes" http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2016/12/01/055863 06:19 < kanzure> "We present here an approach for engineering evolving DNA barcodes in living cells. The methodology entails using a homing guide RNA (hgRNA) scaffold that directs the Cas9-hgRNA complex to target the DNA locus of the hgRNA itself. We show that this homing CRISPR-Cas9 system acts as an expressed genetic barcode that diversifies its sequence and that the rate of diversification can be controlled... 06:19 < kanzure> ... in cultured cells. We further evaluate these barcodes in cultured cell populations and show that they can record lineage history and and that their RNA can be assayed as single molecules in situ. This integrated approach will have wide ranging applications, such as in deep lineage tracing, cellular barcoding, molecular recording, dissecting cancer biology, and connectome mapping." 06:32 -!- urchin_ [~urchin@89.17.22.217] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:36 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:36 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:19 -!- lexik [~lexik@2a01:430:17:1::ffff:1298] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:21 -!- lexik [~lexik@2a01:430:17:1::ffff:1298] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:32 < kanzure> ah, i was thinking of https://tlsnotary.org/ not https://github.com/bjornedstrom/timmy 07:34 < kanzure> https://github.com/tlsnotary/pagesigner-browserless 07:43 < kanzure> oh. the model is a little weird. what? it's using some kind of 'oracle' living on amazon aws. https://tlsnotary.org/pagesigner.html 08:13 -!- lexik [~lexik@2a01:430:17:1::ffff:1298] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 08:16 -!- lexik [~lexik@2a01:430:17:1::ffff:1298] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:20 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:21 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:51 < kanzure> 08:45 <@SketchCow> Internet Archive has several, many times in the past where it has done "something" to every item on the Archive in the name of integrity, improvement, or management. So no, not burdonsome. 09:00 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 09:01 -!- maaku [~quassel@173-228-107-141.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:e98e:6d6a:298d:fbc4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:e98e:6d6a:298d:fbc4] has quit [Changing host] 09:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:32 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:56 -!- jtimon [~quassel@186.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:58 -!- c0rw1n [~c0rw1n@cpc92304-cmbg19-2-0-cust1016.5-4.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:01 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:3dec:7ed1:2d1d:f861] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:05 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-173-49-237-221.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:19 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-173-49-237-221.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:14 -!- urchin_ is now known as Urchin 11:14 -!- Urchin [~urchin@89.17.22.217] has quit [Changing host] 11:14 -!- Urchin [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:18 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:04 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:13 -!- sivoais [~zaki@unaffiliated/sivoais] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:47 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-173-49-237-221.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:59 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-205-252-23.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-211-2-109.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:3dec:7ed1:2d1d:f861] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:41 -!- Fausta [4cda14cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.218.20.204] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:42 < Fausta> . 13:43 < darsie> . 13:44 < Fausta> are you mr. darsie 13:44 < nsh> Algorithm design manual: http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.471.4772&rep=rep1&type=pdf 13:44 < darsie> Fausta: I'm an adult male. 13:44 < darsie> I'm not Mr. Darcy from Pride and Perjudice. 13:45 < Fausta> bummer 13:45 < Fausta> actually I never got through the book, it wasn't my cup of tea 13:46 < darsie> Darsie is my boy scout nick. It is derived from Hindi for tailor and Darsie (english spelling darzee) is a male tailor bird in the Rikki Tikki Tavi tale of the "Jungle Book" by Rudyard Kipling. http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mongoose/rtt.html 13:46 < darsie> I'm from a shorter story. 13:49 < Fausta> are there any other fictional characters here 13:49 < Fausta> well, I guess me 13:49 < darsie> Are you still with Gretchen? 13:49 < Fausta> no, we broke up because I'm not into women 13:51 -!- sandeepkr [~sandeepkr@103.49.155.114] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:57 < kanzure> what is happening here 13:57 < kanzure> do i need to ban everyone again? 13:57 < darsie> kanzure: Would that include yourself? 13:58 < kanzure> absolutely 13:59 < adlai> i vote Reventlov gets to stay because of the cool name 14:00 < darsie> I'm fine with it if I get Gretchen. 14:00 * Fausta senses that this is a channel with a relatively high average IQ 14:00 < adlai> have whatever you want as long as you simulate it yourself 14:01 < darsie> I'll try to dream of her. 14:01 < adlai> Fausta: average iq is by definition 100. anybody not in this channel doesn't count. 14:01 < kanzure> we have a below average IQ; we actually schedule dissections for everyone with high IQ so that we can investigate their brain anatomy. 14:01 < adlai> dissections are led by next week's subject 14:01 < Fausta> lol 14:02 < darsie> My IQ once was determined to be 124 and another time as 120-130. 14:02 * kanzure moves darsie to the discard pile 14:02 < kanzure> don't need more IQ testtakers in here 14:03 < darsie> Actually I want to be "dissected" and transferred to an artificial (e.g. electronic) brain. 14:03 < Fausta> idk what mine is 14:04 < Fausta> actually they did investigate Einstein's brain and found that he had four times the average glial cell density 14:06 < darsie> Glial cells are non-neuronal cells that maintain homeostasis, form myelin, and provide support and protection for neurons in the central and peripheral nervous systems. 14:08 < Fausta> so I bought an REM dreamer device for lucid dreaming and I think customs is holding it up 14:08 < Fausta> it was sent from Poland a month ago and I still haven't gotten it 14:09 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_8Po022S-E 14:09 < yoleaux> Brain Dissection (Big John) - YouTube 14:23 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:28 < adlai> ugh. i'm pretty sure this was mentioned here within the past few weeks, but i'm failing at grep. isn't there some site with a bunch of Ted Chiang stories, including Story of Your Life? no pdf, just text on the site 14:30 < Fausta> http://www.freesfonline.de/authors/Ted_Chiang.html 14:30 < Fausta> just google 14:31 < adlai> i've been ddging/googling for the past 15 minutes, found that site a while ago and it doesn't have the one i'm looking for 14:31 < adlai> iirc this site had all of Story of Your Life And Others 14:34 < kanzure> adlai: infinityplus 14:34 -!- jcorgan [~jcorgan@unaffiliated/jcorgan] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:36 < adlai> this is just a site selling dead trees 14:37 < adlai> so i found http://archive.is/FtVYn but apparently i forgot to archive Story of Your Life when i read it a couple weeks ago, and the site is dead now. fuck. 14:38 < adlai> ... archive.org to the rescue :D 14:39 < adlai> looks like archive.is does not like getting told to archive archive.org 14:39 < adlai> here we go: http://archive.is/v9xMy http://web.archive.org/web/20160422165053/http://www.ibooksonline.com/88/Text/story.html 14:42 < adlai> enough intellectual property arson for one night, time to let the lizard neurons roam free of primate guidance 14:44 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:7d14:c834:34c4:bb9d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:04 -!- Fausta [4cda14cc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.218.20.204] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:07 -!- maaku 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seconds] 17:16 -!- Fausta [47ee9284@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.238.146.132] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:25 < superkuh> There was a paper on arxiv recently showing the formation of metallic phase hydrogen on earth in a diamond anvil. 17:31 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:38 < nmz787> harold: interesting problem 17:40 < nmz787> harold: idk but maybe the software 'fenics' could present some interesting links if you use that in your searches instead of apbs (which I hadn't heard of and looks very cool) 17:47 -!- fleshtheworld- [~fleshthew@108-240-244-194.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:52 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:02 -!- Orpheon [~Orpheon@101.93.62.81.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:29 -!- why_ [why@1.229.153.28] has 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pills" 19:13 < kanzure> is this really the best use of his time 19:18 -!- Urchin[emacs] [~user@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 19:20 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:24 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: blueskin 19:30 -!- Netsplit over, joins: blueskin 19:46 < Fausta> what would be a better use of his time 19:58 < cluckj> herding cats 20:03 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:04 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:14 -!- CaptHindsight [~2020@unaffiliated/capthindsight] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 20:30 -!- Fausta [47ee9284@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.238.146.132] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:36 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@108-240-244-194.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:29 -!- _sol_ [~smuxi@2601:8d:600:1e20:4691:2601:30f8:4136] has joined 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