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When it is pure and of high quality, it is carbon bonded in the manner of diamond but without long-range order, it is amorphous. It can be as hard as diamond, yet not brittle. 05:36 < kanzure> kelu124: you ded? 05:44 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-173-49-237-221.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:02 -!- Cooler_ [~spock@189.121.255.48] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 07:24 < kanzure> http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/12/crispr-patent-hearing-produces-no-clear-winner-only-soft-signals 07:25 < kanzure> "In the most colorful moment on the UC side, its lead attorney, Todd Walters, three times said "there was no special sauce here." He noted that Zhang was one of six labs that showed CRISPR worked in eukaryotes within 6 months of the Doudna-Charpentier paper. Doudna indeed was one of those labs. But the Broad-lead counsel, Steven Trybus, countered that even Doudna acknowledged in a press ar... 07:25 < kanzure> ...ticle that "she experienced 'many frustrations' getting CRISPR to work in human cells." Walters insisted the Doudna never made any statement that it wouldn't work in eukaryotic cells, and indeed the broadly worded UC patent includes eukaryotic applications. What's more, Walters said any time scientists perform experiments they have reasonable expectations of success or they'd mod... 07:25 < kanzure> ...ify it." 07:25 < cluckj> a lawyer saying "special sauce" is really neat 07:26 < kanzure> ".. noting that one judge pointed out that there's a difference between expectation and hope." 07:31 < kanzure> i hopexpect not 07:42 < cluckj> same 07:46 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-094-167.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:59 -!- sachy [~sachy@nat.brmlab.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:20 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21 < chris_99> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci-tech/nightvision-glasses-nanocrystals-developed-at-anu-allow-direct-vision-into-the-infrared-20161207-gt5vsf.html sounds very cool 08:30 < kanzure> https://console.aws.amazon.com/polly/home/SynthesizeSpeech 08:41 < __mz_o> i just saw that the other day 08:41 < __mz_o> you can save the audio files. pretty cool imo 08:41 < __mz_o> the lex service is interesting to 08:42 < __mz_o> thats their speech-to-text service 08:43 < __mz_o> If i had a clone, he'd be learning their ML library to 08:46 -!- nmz787_w [~ntmccork@134.134.139.74] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:49 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:49 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tteyikkzgsjjbkxv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:04 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.60] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-101-180-233-178.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-101-180-233-178.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 09:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:18 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:22 < nmz787_w> why don't we have GMO insects that will scratch and clean my head for me? 09:23 < nmz787_w> they'd eat the dead skin and lick up any skin oil, and maybe exude a nice essential oil for perfuming 09:24 < nmz787_w> I guess they could also exude some topical anesthetic too, or something like aftershave, to make your head feel nice and fresh 09:27 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.60] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:27 < nmz787_w> actually, why don't bedbugs yet clean our entire body while we sleep??? those lazy moocher bugs 09:27 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:28 < chris_99> haha 09:28 < cluckj> I am down with some GMO head lice 09:33 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:43 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.237.246] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:45 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:54 -!- sachy [~sachy@nat.brmlab.cz] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:58 < CaptHindsight> GMO insects as weapons 09:59 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:00 < CaptHindsight> guess that might be covered by the https://www.un.org/disarmament/wmd/bio/ 10:01 < nmz787_w> weapons against swampbutt 10:01 < CaptHindsight> but why not a dust mite skin cream? 10:03 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.237.246] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:03 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:13 < CaptHindsight> I was actually contacted by a clothing co that is looking for similar tech using coatings for textiles 10:13 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:14 < CaptHindsight> how to keep socks and poopoo undies from stinking 10:15 < CaptHindsight> can you do it with a coating that stays on the fabric? 10:15 < CaptHindsight> can it survive a wash? 10:16 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:16 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:32 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:45 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:46 < nmz787_w> clothing with catalytic platinum sites, or enzymes that were sturdy enough, or just sell washing detergen with microbes like outdoors stores do, but with some microbe that stays on the clothes waiting to breathe farts 10:48 -!- bsm1175321 [~mcelrath@38.121.165.30] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:5109:bef1:f1e8:a123] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:5109:bef1:f1e8:a123] has quit [Changing host] 10:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:59 < CaptHindsight> microbes on tethers 10:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:00 < CaptHindsight> titanium as well but it also breaks down the polymers used to bond it to the fabric 11:01 < CaptHindsight> the trick is really finding some middle ground, tech that they buy for a low price that somewhat works 11:03 < CaptHindsight> they can sell without false advertisement and they can mark up the margins on 11:06 < nmz787_w> space suit for daily living, that is filled with bacterial ooze 11:07 < nmz787_w> don't leave home without your statis-suit! 11:07 < CaptHindsight> iSuit 11:08 < CaptHindsight> nmz787_w: McDonalds make clothing? 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13:19 < kelu124> Hi Kanzure 13:20 < kelu124> Humm things are moving on, the kit was redesigned to be used as two breadboard modules, cheaper, lighter, and using more off-the-shelf components 13:20 < kelu124> like using a STM32 on a arduino-compatible wifi adafruit board 13:21 < kelu124> made quite some progress as well on the documentation (shifted from a github manually written to documentation-generating script 13:21 < kelu124> and got the boards on tindie, having some orders already and people using those 13:22 < kanzure> i think our version at one point was planned to use the project icestorm fpga stuff 13:22 < kelu124> got some prize from hackaday too, quite fun 13:22 < kelu124> in short, moving forward =) 13:22 < kanzure> ( https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xvLWDbp0x6z0Ft3AsfxjIsLUNsg5smkTcYb1g4WVo5U/edit ) 13:22 < kelu124> saw it recently on HAD at http://hackaday.com/2016/11/05/give-your-rpi-a-cool-fpga-hat/ 13:22 < kanzure> i'm a little disappointed in google docs, seems that it did not notify me of your comment on the google doc :o 13:23 < kelu124> ">< 13:23 < kanzure> i think we were doing a very basic motor sweep implementation 13:24 < kanzure> and i really want to move towards various phased array approachs for both imaging and stimulation 13:24 < kelu124> yup, I was using both servos and retrofitted probes 13:24 < kelu124> but using multi-channels AFE + FPGA can help bring more channels 13:24 < kelu124> seen some prototypes with a couple of FPGA onboard 13:25 < kelu124> some for channels management, some for beamforming, some for signal acquisition/processing 13:25 < kanzure> fenn: it looks like our html logger went offline the other day. also, it picked up various opentimestamps files (ots). 13:25 < kelu124> but quite unavoidable on multi-element arrays 13:26 < kanzure> prototypes of a derivative of murgen, or what prototypes were those? 13:27 < kelu124> none, just a review from the litterature 13:27 < kanzure> aww. okay. 13:27 < kanzure> yes, lots of fun stuff in the literature 13:27 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/ 13:27 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ultrasound/ 13:27 < kelu124> Put the more relevant stuff in a recent publi (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1611.10174.pdf) 13:28 < kanzure> .title https://arxiv.org/abs/1611.10174 13:28 < yoleaux> [1611.10174] A low-cost, arduino-like dev-kit for single-element ultrasound imaging 13:29 < kanzure> yeah i think everyone should have these next to their toothbrush 13:30 < kanzure> (various not-for-human-use disclaimers go here) 13:30 < kelu124> There's not only imaging, but some other uses can be interesting -- biofeedback for example for stroke-recovering patients, or bodyfat measurement by getting A-mode lines at 4 or 5 body points 13:31 < kelu124> It's a shame very little was done in terms of open hardware on the topic so far 13:31 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-094-167.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:31 < kanzure> there was an old technique where ultrasound was used for whole body imaging 13:32 < kanzure> essentially the same way that x-ray tomography works (spin a bunch of emitters around a body, collect data) 13:32 < kelu124> in a water/immersion bath I guess 13:32 < kanzure> yes it was the barrel of a.. er.. let me look it up. 13:32 < kelu124> Could be interesting to get both reflected and transmitted signal, maybe the source of some additional information. 13:33 < kelu124> Radon-transform, and you get the image 13:33 < kanzure> 19:17 < kanzure> 19:49 < fenn> The first full-body human ultrasound -- conducted in the turret of a disused B-29 bomber http://criticalmedia.uwaterloo.ca/courses/necromedia/ 13:33 < cluckj> plz be a barrel of undisclosed goo 13:34 < kanzure> kelu124: yep, lots of interesting things can be done with ultrasound contrast agents too -- materials matter, especially for in vivo measurements. but also, external materials can be highly useful -- thus why people use contact gels. 13:35 < kelu124> Not only contrast agent, or impedance adaptation gels, but also the materials for the scanner heads encasing, which need to be transparents at those frequencies 13:35 < kelu124> Plus, in terms of ultrasound contrast agents, there were works on local drugs delivery, where bubbles transport the agent, and get popped using ultrasound when they reach a specific site 13:36 < kanzure> for single motor scan, the hardware is obvious/simple, but do you have anything about the more exotic ultrasound emitters by any chance 13:36 < kanzure> yep i'm familiar with (micro)bubble delivery 13:36 < kelu124> ( https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309767553_Subwavelength_far-field_ultrasound_drug-delivery ) 13:37 < kanzure> looks recent 13:38 < kelu124> for arrays, I was willing to try at first single channel imaging, using synthetic aperture : you get a poor framerate, but electronics is reaaaally simple 13:38 < kanzure> "synthetic aperture"? 13:40 < kelu124> The wikipedia page is not too bad. Basically, you study the signals produced by pairs of single emitter / single receiver on an array, then combine those to reproduce your image. 13:40 < kanzure> okay, "use math, not hardware" 13:40 < kelu124> Based on the superposition linearity 13:41 < kelu124> exactly. You loose on the framerate, but win on simplicity, and sometimes quality. 13:42 < kelu124> An exciting alternative would be to use time-reversal (time mirrors) using a single element, generating a signal reflected back to the middle to be imaged. I'm quite sure that with a proper training of your scanner, you'd be able to get full field, awesome framerate, quite accurate, images. 13:42 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@173-228-1-246.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:42 < kelu124> you won't need an array and FPGAs, just maths, at the extreme. 13:43 < kanzure> with icestorm, FPGAs aren't as much black magic or off-limits anymore, although i do acknowledge the benefits of attempting to avoid FPGAs 13:44 < delinquentme> So theres a piezeo in this ultrasound scanner? 13:44 < kelu124> -see http://slideplayer.com/slide/7645366/ ) 13:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:44 < kanzure> .title 13:44 < yoleaux> Building Three-Dimensional Images Using a Time-Reversal Chaotic Cavity Gabriel Montaldo, Delphine Palacio, Mickael Tanter, and Mathias Fink IEEE Transactions. - ppt download 13:45 < kelu124> It really depends on what you want/need as a type of signal. I'm quite the proponent for "keeping it as simple a possible". 13:47 -!- chris_999 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:49 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:49 -!- chris_999 is now known as chris_99 13:49 < kanzure> your paper says a scanning head is still TODO? 13:50 < kanzure> a non-mechanical scan maybe? 13:50 < kanzure> oh okay, a non-water immersion scanning head 13:59 < kelu124> Oops I've kept a TODO ? 14:00 < kelu124> AH okay. Yes, a non-water immersion. 14:00 < kelu124> Materials are quite an issue for this matter, that's why I've tried commercial probes for piezo+movement. 14:01 < kanzure> what's the price on the commercial probes? 14:06 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-145-125-100.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-159-235-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:10 < nmz787_w> sounds like an opportunity for you though, re : (1:31:11 PM) kelu124: It's a shame very little was done in terms of open hardware on the topic so far 14:12 < kelu124> =) 14:13 < nmz787_w> icestorm is only useful for glue logic and small logic from what I've heard 14:13 < kelu124> True, nmz787_w - though I'm missing the second step before step 3. Profit =) 14:13 < nmz787_w> i don't think you'd get any math or crypto boost with one 14:13 < kelu124> kanzure: I can find the used probes I'm using on ebay at around 70$ 14:14 < nmz787_w> also, I'm slowly learning SystemVerilog now, during part of my day job 14:14 < kanzure> ah. but mass purchase of them..? 14:14 < nmz787_w> kelu124: aliexpress? 14:17 < kelu124> Today, it's rather Tindie, given the volume of users ;) 14:34 < kelu124> There's also the option of using a DSP to do some processing, and keeping a relatively microcontroler 14:37 < nmz787_w> kelu124: have you looked for probes on aliexpress? 14:38 < nmz787_w> I bought an Intel ComputeStick with the m5 processor in a week ago, and it packs a wallop for its small size 14:39 < nmz787_w> my point is, finding small powerful and cheap computers is getting easier and easier 14:43 < kelu124> Indeed. Even the Pi zero may have enough power. I've been playing as well with the beaglebone black and matching ADC, up to 40Msps, with a 350Mb buffer for acquisition, quite powerful. 14:44 < nmz787_w> I have yet to really play with my LPC link v2 with the 80 MSPS ADC (though only something like 7 or 8 bits) 14:50 < kelu124> if you have some analog log compression, you don't really need much more 14:51 < kelu124> the human eye cannot distinguish between a lot of level of gray 14:51 < nmz787_w> yeah but software might be able to do something... zoom in maybe? 14:52 < nmz787_w> would there be a way to image the insides of walls of a building? 14:52 -!- _sol_ [~smuxi@2601:8d:600:1e20:4691:2601:30f8:4136] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:52 < nmz787_w> I could sure use an easy way to see where to rip out drywall and drill through wood, etc, for new wiring and renovation formulation/research/preparation 14:53 < kelu124> zoom in would still be limited by the sensor resolution 14:53 < kelu124> NDT uses a lot of ultrasound, I've heard some as well for walls control 14:53 < kelu124> but haven't seen much 14:54 < kelu124> got to go, was a pleasure touching base! Will keep an eye on the logs 14:54 < kanzure> cool, talk soon 14:55 < kanzure> facebook should do a mutantpedia--- collect everyone's genome, then ask them what their special mutant powers are 14:56 < kanzure> also, it would be trivial to identify a million+ people that do well on <5 hours of sleep/night 14:56 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@173-228-1-246.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:57 -!- _sol_ [~smuxi@2601:8d:600:1e20:4691:2601:30f8:4136] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:58 < kanzure> also it might be possible to genetically remove hunger pangs 15:00 < kanzure> someone suggests that mutant DEC2 could be delivered orally 15:00 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-094-167.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:00 < kanzure> DEC2 mutation is like a 40% lifespan increase (at last in terms of active time awake) 15:01 -!- kelu124 [4ec4bfde@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.196.191.222] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:01 < kanzure> that's probably the biggest longevity impact that we know about right now, by many orders of magnitude 15:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:16 < nmz787_w> orally eh? 15:16 < nmz787_w> so post-birth? 15:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:22 < kanzure> well i was previously thinking of CRISPR + lentivirus of adults, which is post-birth too 15:27 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@70-5-32-114.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:30 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/sleep/ 15:46 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@70-5-32-114.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:58 < kanzure> http://www.ligandal.com/ "'Gene therapy requires delivery. Ligandal has developed a breakthrough nanotechnology for the precise and high-efficiency delivery of nucleic acids (CRISPR, TALEN, and RNA) to specific cells and organelles without the limitations of viruses, enabling a new standard for genetic medicine. '" 15:59 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:01 -!- _sol_ [~smuxi@2601:8d:600:1e20:4691:2601:30f8:4136] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:05 < gnusha> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ae0c8970 Bryan Bishop: milano allele >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/ 16:05 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:06 -!- _sol_ [~smuxi@2601:8d:600:1e20::4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:07 < kanzure> http://blog.gen9bio.com/largest-synthetic-virus-could-be-a-breakthrough-in-treating-cancer 16:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:09 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:13 < kanzure> whatever happened to Lemminkainen? 16:13 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:14 < kanzure> 'apparently very rare antibodies have been found in people that confer complete resistance to all influenza variants' 16:16 < kanzure> ah he was cofounder of ligandal. i didn't know that. 16:19 < TMA> he has apparently drowned in the river of Tuonela 16:21 < kanzure> what? 16:23 < TMA> according to wikipedia, Lemmink?inen drowned in a river in Tuonela (the Underworld), his body was found by his mother. she has resurrected him afterwards 16:25 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28 < kanzure> no, the other one. from hplusroadmap. 16:28 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:30 < kanzure> "phage-assisted continuous evolution" (PACE) http://www.sculptingevolution.org/pace 16:30 < kanzure> "During phage-assisted continuous evolution (PACE), we harness the fastest-evolving replicator in nature, the bacteriophage, to continuously evolve proteins or nucleic acids toward desired functions in vivo. We link the phage's ability to reproduce to the desired molecular activity by moving a gene required for phage infection (gene III) from the phage genome into the host cell and replacing ... 16:31 < kanzure> ...it with the gene(s) we want to evolve. We then engineer the host cell to produce the missing phage protein (pIII) in proportion to the desired activity." 16:32 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mkbobmrjbjbfrbhx] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:32 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:36 < kanzure> as a precursor to homologous recombination for DNA assembly, perhaps it would be useful to select for cells that are able to combine just two input DNA fragments--- i think homologous recombination presently is done with more than this? 16:44 < kanzure> ok i think i should go find a yeast person 16:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:5910:ee40:f15a:469f] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:5910:ee40:f15a:469f] has quit [Changing host] 16:51 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:53 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest92948 16:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:58 < kanzure> "Parallel in vivo DNA assembly by recombination: Experimental demonstration and theoretical approaches" http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0056854 17:04 < kanzure> also http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/Recent%20advances%20in%20DNA%20assembly%20technologies%20-%202015.pdf 17:05 < kanzure> ah "counter-selection markers": if the organism assembles the DNA wrong, then you could have it express some kind of poison, or a bright signal that would allow for FACS to sort out that cell and deselect it 17:11 < nmz787_w> I remember being a fan of PACE when I first saw it 17:11 < kanzure> did you change your mind? 17:13 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-094-167.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:22 < nmz787_w> no, just never had the initial DNA and also microfluidics, along with analytic equipment to put an evolver together 17:26 < kanzure> kent wants to do lots of evolver projects. and so do i. the trick is to find good targets to work on. 17:40 < kanzure> .wik cotard delusion 17:40 < yoleaux> "Cotard delusion is a rare mental illness in which the affected person holds the delusional belief that they are already dead, does not exist, is putrefying, or has lost their blood or internal organs." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotard_delusion 17:41 < kanzure> "paradoxically, 55% of the patients present delusions of immortality" 17:41 < kanzure> i wonder if those delusions were tested 17:42 < kanzure> and how would you correctly test a "delusion of immortality" anyway...? wtf 17:46 -!- TinKode [~TinKode@host86-173-88-180.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:48 < TinKode> idk guys i cannot get over the idea that we live in a simulation. i mean it should be obvious by now 17:49 < TinKode> every elegant simulation should allow for simulations within 17:50 < kanzure> what would it matter if we did? 17:50 < TinKode> additionally we just start to barely scratch the idea of quantum entanglement 17:50 < kanzure> TinKode: i dunno who you are, but here's something to get you stuck http://lesswrong.com/lw/n1r/timeless_quantum_immortality/ (i hate this stuff) 17:50 < TinKode> suggesting something like the matrix where everything is interconnected at some basic level 17:50 < TinKode> kanzure, thx gonna check 17:51 < TinKode> kanzure, it matters because that makes me wonder who is the Simulator 17:51 < kanzure> wouldn't you wonder that anyway, though? 17:52 < TinKode> what would be rather is purpose is more interesting to contemplate 17:52 < TinKode> his* 17:53 < TinKode> kanzure, what would be one of the reasons you hate that stuff? 17:54 < TinKode> does it conflict with your inner sense of naturalism? 17:54 < kanzure> it doesn't cause its adherents to be productive individuals 17:54 < kanzure> hence it is hateworthy 17:56 < cluckj> haha 17:57 < TinKode> also the idea of free will goes off the charts in that deterministic view 17:57 < cluckj> philosophy alert 17:57 < TinKode> sure you just wrote that out of free will 17:57 < kanzure> why are you here 17:58 < TinKode> to understand my purpose 17:58 < kanzure> you chose this channel for that...? 17:58 < cluckj> your purpose is to pass butter 17:59 < TinKode> cluckj, i identified your purpose: trolling 17:59 < kanzure> TinKode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekP0LQEsUh0 17:59 < cluckj> that's probably accurate in this case 17:59 < kanzure> but yes, we really do have a no philosophy rule 17:59 < kanzure> TinKode: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/hplusroadmap 17:59 < TinKode> like transhumanism is 100% philosophy free... sure 18:00 < cluckj> I violate the no philosophy rule so frequently and egregiously; I am familiar with the intricacies... 18:04 < kanzure> TinKode: what's wrong with determinism, again? 18:04 < nmz787_w> TinKode: gotta understand the system no matter what level you start at 18:04 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:05 < kanzure> yashgaroth: i'm still confused why nobody knows about homologous recombination 18:05 < TinKode> it kind of imposes a certain limit on the way of thinking 18:05 < TinKode> "Quantum Immortality states that my consciousness will follow the path of branchings in which it survives" 18:05 < TinKode> what state of mind determines that 18:06 < TinKode> how does my consciousness know which combination of thoughts determines survival 18:07 < yashgaroth> kanzure yeah me too; I mean my proposed diagram relies on the exonuclease working perfectly, and I guess fragments with one single-stranded overhang aren't as commonly used as straight ssDNA or dsDNA 18:08 < cluckj> it doesn't know which combination works, the idea behind quantum immortality is more than that 18:08 -!- _sol_ [~smuxi@2601:8d:600:1e20::4] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:09 < TinKode> also how outdated is the idea that consciousness affects matter? (over the internet too) 18:09 < TinKode> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRSBaq3vAeY 18:10 < TinKode> so which is first matter affects consciousness or the other way around? 18:11 < kanzure> TinKode: keep in mind that i linked that as an example of bullshit 18:11 < TinKode> kanzure, a so by extension all of my approaches are under the possibilty to be considered bs 18:11 -!- _sol_ [~smuxi@2601:8d:600:1e20:4691:2601:30f8:4136] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:13 < nmz787_w> kanzure: lots of people know about homologous recombination 18:15 < kanzure> nmz787_w: did you see the thing about using it for dna assembly from many 100mers? 18:22 < TinKode> What is the chance of a cell to pop out a sea? 18:27 < TinKode> Basically nil guys... even if the cell were able to exist in order to survive would have to develop and perfect the system of cellular division in one life spawn. I would doubt strongly doubt it could be possible. 18:28 < cluckj> zzz 18:29 < yashgaroth> shit he's right, brb converting to religion 18:30 < TinKode> sure constructive criticism at its finest 18:31 < kanzure> making things is more important than philosophy 18:31 < cluckj> ^ 18:31 < TinKode> make for what 18:31 < yashgaroth> usually when someone states that life couldn't have evolved from nothing blah blah, it's rather difficult to change their mind 18:31 < cluckj> ^^ 18:31 < TinKode> you dont say 18:31 < kanzure> determinism isn't some sort of death sentence. you don't even know the current state, much less all the possible state modifications. 18:32 < cluckj> determinism is boring, to boot 18:32 < kanzure> nah 18:32 < yashgaroth> current biological theory states that simple RNA-based lifeforms, given millions of years and no competition since there's no other life, could eventually create a self-propagating "cell" 18:32 < cluckj> IDIC, dude 18:32 < yashgaroth> or we're all making it up in order to get grant money and god(s) will be very angry with us after death 18:33 < __mz_o> 18:33 < kanzure> i don't know what yashgaroth thinks he is replying to 18:33 < yashgaroth> yeah me either 18:33 < kanzure> oh, you interpreted TinKode as asking about origin of self-replication? 18:33 < TinKode> alright now im sure this is the wrong channel... it took me just a few more words to read 18:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.180.248.145] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@101.180.248.145] has quit [Changing host] 18:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:34 < kanzure> TinKode: this is the "holy fuck let's upload everyone into computers and destroy the planet" channel 18:34 < TinKode> 4 real? 18:34 < yashgaroth> I mean it's hard to get a definite point from schizophrenics or w/e, but yeah that was my ill-fated intent 18:34 < TinKode> like that movie 18:34 < TinKode> transcendence 18:34 < TinKode> with depp 18:34 < cluckj> and not even in that particular order, sometimes 18:35 < yashgaroth> how me a cell, pop out the sea?? 18:35 < TinKode> or the eye or the plasma 18:35 < kanzure> origin of self-replication is easy to explain from a string manipulation standpoint-- random string operations are easy to posit, and self-replication is a consequence of some ligation (combination) and other properties 18:35 < yashgaroth> ooh the eye is an interesting case study, but fuck off 18:36 < TinKode> ok will fuck off now guys 18:36 < TinKode> my words are just fucking around 18:36 < kanzure> string manipulation operations are things like appends, prepends, joins, splits, ligation, combination, inversions, etc. 18:36 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ai/The%20evolution%20of%20self-replicating%20computer%20organisms%20-%20A.%20N.%20Pargellis.pdf 18:37 < TinKode> once you were able to make that in your water pot at home ill buy plane tickets to you at once 18:38 < cluckj> got half a billion years to wait around for it to happen? 18:38 < yashgaroth> and can my pot be the size of the earth 18:39 < TinKode> but anyway mind uploading is tricky 18:39 < TinKode> true mind hack 18:39 < TinKode> no need of o2 18:39 < TinKode> food 18:39 < TinKode> you live as an information 18:39 < cluckj> I do have something funky in my toilet that is relevant to this 18:39 < TinKode> computational information 18:40 < TinKode> but i doubt you will be the same as before 18:42 < kanzure> why would sameness matter? 18:42 < kanzure> i would take lots of dissimilarity over not having anything at all 18:42 < TinKode> what was again that russian project 2045 18:43 < cluckj> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjbAgwdBaTI 18:43 < TinKode> with avatars 18:43 < TinKode> can't wait to see that shit 18:45 < kanzure> .title 18:45 < yoleaux> Blade Runner - I want more life... f..... - YouTube 18:46 < kanzure> anyway, 2045 is just a marketing stunt and a waste of time 18:46 < cluckj> oh nice it's fixed 18:47 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@173-117-91-157.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:47 < nmz787_w> kanzure: 100mer link plz 18:47 < kanzure> nmz787_w: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/enzymaticsynthesis/uyZqtJO24RE/lApLb4JmCAAJ 18:51 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@173-117-91-157.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-77-136-226.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:00 < kanzure> parahsailin was looking at "Mechanism of homologous recombination from the RecA-ssDNA/dsDNA structures" 19:00 < kanzure> .title http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v453/n7194/full/nature06971.html 19:00 < yoleaux> Access : Mechanism of homologous recombination from the RecA|[ndash]|ssDNA/dsDNA structures : Nature 19:07 < kanzure> recA video thing (start at 15 sec) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmSrjVLb94c&t=15s 19:10 -!- ensign_ [~ensign@2001:41d0:8:d711::1] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:10 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:10 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@unaffiliated/blueskin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:11 -!- Reventlov [~reventlov@unaffiliated/reventlov] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:12 -!- Taek [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:472e::] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:12 -!- Taek42 [~quassel@2001:41d0:1:472e::] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:12 -!- Reventlov [~reventlov@unaffiliated/reventlov] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:13 -!- blueskin [~blueskin@unaffiliated/blueskin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:16 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-77-136-226.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:18 -!- ensign [~ensign@2001:41d0:8:d711::1] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:19 -!- nsh [~lol@wikipedia/nsh] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:23 < kanzure> ensign: hi. sbp was saying something about you earlier today. 19:39 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:54 < kanzure> "Gamma frequency entrainment attenuates amyloid load and modifies microglia" http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v540/n7632/full/nature20587.html 19:55 < kanzure> "A high-throughput optomechanical retrieval method for sequence-verified clonal DNA" http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms7073 https://twitter.com/erlichya/status/805786047623950336 19:55 < kanzure> "Writing DNA plays a significant role in the fields of synthetic biology, functional genomics and bioengineering. DNA clones on next-generation sequencing (NGS) platforms have the potential to be a rich and cost-effective source of sequence-verified DNAs as a precursor for DNA writing. However, it is still very challenging to retrieve target clonal DNA from high-density NGS platforms. Here we ... 19:55 < kanzure> ...propose an enabling technology called 'Sniper Cloning' that enables the precise mapping of target clone features on NGS platforms and non-contact rapid retrieval of targets for the full utilization of DNA clones. By merging the three cutting-edge technologies of NGS, DNA microarray and our pulse laser retrieval system, Sniper Cloning is a week-long process that produces 5,188 error-free sy... 19:56 < kanzure> ...nthetic DNAs in a single run of NGS with a single microarray DNA pool. We believe that this technology has potential as a universal tool for DNA writing in biological sciences." 19:56 < kanzure> "Designed proteins induce the formation of nanocage-containing extracellular vesicles" http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v540/n7632/full/nature20607.html https://twitter.com/NatureBiotech/status/804324588184358912 19:57 < kanzure> "Here we describe the design of self-assembling protein nanocages that direct their own release from human cells inside small vesicles in a manner that resembles some viruses. We refer to these hybrid biomaterials as 'enveloped protein nanocages' (EPNs)." 19:58 < kanzure> .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_hJOcQu0hU 19:58 < yoleaux> An embolizing hydrogel that shifts its phase in response to mechanical shear forces - YouTube 19:59 < kanzure> "An injectable shear-thinning biomaterial for endovascular embolization" http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/8/365/365ra156 19:59 < kanzure> "Effective treatments for ruptured blood vessels must be rapidly deployed to promote hemostasis. Avery et al. formulated a gelatin and silicate nanoplatelet hydrogel material that occluded blood flow without requiring thrombus formation. When injected into arteries and veins in mice and pigs, the biomaterial occluded blood flow without evidence of fragmentation or displacement for up to 24 day... 19:59 < kanzure> ...s. Occluded vessels showed evidence of connective tissue replacing the biomaterial in the vessel lumen. Shear-thinning biomaterials represent promising alternatives for stable endovascular embolization." 20:00 < kanzure> i wonder why not just cauterize? 20:00 < kanzure> "To stop excessive bleeding or the flow of blood into an aneurysm, clinicians harness the same principle by forming artificial therapeutic emboli that can plug blood-carrying vessels. Using steerable catheters, they place tiny soft-metal coils or liquid embolic agents ("glues") into the affected artery to block the passage of blood" 20:24 -!- thesnark [~mike@unaffiliated/thesnark] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:25 -!- nmz787_w [~ntmccork@134.134.139.70] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:53 -!- TinKode [~TinKode@host86-173-88-180.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Practicing escapism.] 20:54 -!- TinKode [~TinKode@host86-173-88-180.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [] 20:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1191:3a00:f5ec:1e8a:dc7b:9af9] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1191:3a00:f5ec:1e8a:dc7b:9af9] has quit [Changing host] 20:57 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:06 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:07 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.112] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:07 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.112] has quit [Changing host] 21:07 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:21 -!- TinKode [~TinKode@host86-173-88-180.range86-173.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 21:21 -!- TinKode [~TinKode@unaffiliated/tinkode] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:22 -!- PatrickRobotham [uid18270@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mkbobmrjbjbfrbhx] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 21:52 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@2001:8003:1163:8800:ad95:7e7:127:7540] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:52 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@2001:8003:1163:8800:ad95:7e7:127:7540] has quit [Changing host] 21:52 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:55 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:11 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:13 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.56] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.152.96.56] has quit [Changing host] 22:17 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:18 -!- TinKode [~TinKode@unaffiliated/tinkode] has quit [Quit: Practicing escapism.] 22:19 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:25 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:59 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-162-101-9.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:00 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-159-235-133.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:41 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@101.180.248.145] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:41 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@101.180.248.145] has quit [Changing host] 23:41 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@108-77-136-226.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-094-167.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:44 < fenn> maaku: pebble the smartwatch company went out of business 23:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:59 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-094-167.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Dec 08 00:00:32 2016