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04:27 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen@cpc76806-brmb10-2-0-cust240.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:44 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 04:53 -!- Aurelius [~cpopell@50.35.79.117] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:00 -!- kelu124 [~kelu124@mon75-h10-89-81-14-210.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:02 -!- kelu124 [~kelu124@mon75-h10-89-81-14-210.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:10 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:13 -!- Aurelius [~cpopell@50.35.79.117] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:13 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200a56fb0cb9f17cf58.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:27 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:40 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:42 -!- Bobchev [~Bobchev@95.42.73.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:51 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:02 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.237.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:13 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.237.246] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:15 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ihhjilrwgvfzmzaw] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:17 < JayDugger> Good morning. 07:05 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200a56fb0cb9f17cf58.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:11 < kanzure> large P!=NP survey paper http://www.scottaaronson.com/papers/pnp.pdf 07:11 -!- kghosh [~kelu124@mon75-h10-89-81-14-210.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:13 -!- kelu124 [~kelu124@mon75-h10-89-81-14-210.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:23 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:30 -!- kghosh [~kelu124@mon75-h10-89-81-14-210.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:46 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13318289 07:46 < yoleaux> Show HN: PDFlower - Reflow PDF papers for small-screen reading | Hacker News 07:51 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4846:6af5:aa2e:4b3a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:54 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4846:6af5:aa2e:4b3a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:56 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4846:6af5:aa2e:4b3a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:03 < kanzure> realworldcrypto livestream http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?func=VOFF&id=columbia&date=2017-01-04&seq=1 09:18 -!- nmz787_w [~ntmccork@134.134.139.78] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:24 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4846:6af5:aa2e:4b3a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:25 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4846:6af5:aa2e:4b3a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:30 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4846:6af5:aa2e:4b3a] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:38 -!- Bobchev [~Bobchev@95.42.85.128] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:43 -!- Bobchev [~Bobchev@95.42.85.128] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:54 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4846:6af5:aa2e:4b3a] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:00 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:4846:6af5:aa2e:4b3a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:21 < nmz787_w> juri_: JSM-T200 10:22 < chris_99> does your SEM work nmz787_w? 10:22 < nmz787_w> unfortunately I didn't get the CRT screen to come on... 10:22 < chris_99> awh 10:22 < nmz787_w> not sure if it is due to the dry-rot cracked old vacuum hoses 10:22 < chris_99> can you probe the crts input possibly? 10:22 < nmz787_w> another possibility is that I had the water on the oil diffusion pump too cold 10:22 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:23 < nmz787_w> there is a 75Ohm analog video out... just gotta get a video capture card setup in ubuntu (of course last night VLC was installing and then that machine's Wifi cut-out) 10:23 < chris_99> ah, bugger :( 10:24 < chris_99> well good luck, hopefully it'll work soon! 10:24 < nmz787_w> I have a PCI capture card, and I could swear a USB one too 10:24 < nmz787_w> yeah! 10:24 < nmz787_w> vacuum hose isn't cheap! 10:24 < nmz787_w> 10ft on Amazon prime is $178 10:24 < chris_99> ah interesting, whats it made from 10:24 < chris_99> eek 10:24 < nmz787_w> I guess natural gum rubber 10:24 < chris_99> ah 10:24 < nmz787_w> 1 inch inner diameter, 1/2 inch thick wall 10:26 < chris_99> wow 10:27 < chris_99> what kind of vac pump does a sem use out of interest 10:27 < chris_99> like how high of a vacuum do you need 10:28 < nmz787_w> it has two, a low-speed (pretty quiet) mechanical pump, which is pumping/backed-up-to an oil diffusion pump, which is attached to the sample chamber 10:29 < nmz787_w> I am bad with vacuum numbers still, but I think it's about 3 orders of magnitude more vacuum needed to run the machine than the mechanical pump can provide alone 10:42 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-211-226-21.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:43 -!- drewbot_ [~cinch@ec2-54-198-12-63.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:44 < juri_> nmz787_w: we've got a cambridge stereoscan 200 10:47 < chris_99> out of interest, nmz787_w do you know what kind of SEM it is, something i didn't realise until someone mentioned it to me, is you couldn't actually use all SEMs on any microchip die, to see to a transistor level 10:58 -!- augur [~augur@2602:306:cefe:6930:8d47:3ad1:b38e:dad7] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:15 -!- jtimon [~quassel@197.red-88-0-200.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:34 -!- augur [~augur@2602:306:cefe:6930:8d47:3ad1:b38e:dad7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36 -!- gnusha_ [~gnusha@unaffiliated/kanzure/bot/gnusha] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:36 -!- Topic for ##hplusroadmap: biohacking, nootropics, transhumanism, open hardware | sponsored by lobsters everywhere, banned by the Federal Death Administration (5 times) | this channel is LOGGED: http://gnusha.org/logs | http://diyhpl.us/wiki | "ray kurzweil is a pessimist" - george church 11:36 -!- Topic set by kanzure [~kanzure@unaffiliated/kanzure] [Wed May 20 12:46:25 2015] 11:36 [Users ##hplusroadmap] 11:36 [ __mz_o ] [ chris_99 ] [ fenn ] [ justanotheruser] [ pompolic ] [ superkuh ] 11:36 [ abetusk ] [ Cory ] [ FourFire ] [ juul ] [ poohbear ] [ Taek ] 11:36 [ adlai ] [ cpc26 ] [ gnusha_ ] [ kanzure ] [ proofoflogic] [ thundara ] 11:36 [ aedla ] [ crescendo ] [ gwillen ] [ kwgwk ] [ Qfwfq ] [ TMA ] 11:36 [ andytoshi ] [ CRM114 ] [ helleshin ] [ lexik ] [ rancyd ] [ vikraman ] 11:36 [ archels_ ] [ darsie ] [ HEx1 ] [ Madars ] [ rancyd_ ] [ WizJin ] 11:36 [ Aurelius ] [ dbolser ] [ hylleddin ] [ midnightmagic ] [ razzy ] [ wrldpcmbl] 11:36 [ balrog ] [ dequ ] [ iaglium ] [ nanotube ] [ Regex ] [ y0no_ ] 11:36 [ bkero ] [ docl ] [ indiebio_ ] [ nickjohnson ] [ Reventlov ] [ ybit ] 11:36 [ bluebear_ ] [ drewbot ] [ JayDugger ] [ night ] [ sachy ] [ yoleaux ] 11:36 [ blueskin ] [ Dumuzi ] [ jcorgan ] [ nmz787 ] [ sandeepkr ] [ yorick ] 11:36 [ bsm117532 ] [ duper ] [ Jenda` ] [ nmz787_w ] [ saturn2 ] 11:36 [ Burninate ] [ dustinm ] [ JenElizabeth] [ nnnn20430 ] [ saurik ] 11:36 [ c0rw1n ] [ EnabrinTain] [ Joshchamp ] [ nsh ] [ sivoais ] 11:36 [ catern ] [ ensign ] [ jrayhawk ] [ pasky ] [ strages ] 11:36 [ CheckDavid] [ espes_ ] [ juri_ ] [ pent_ ] [ streety ] 11:36 -!- Irssi: ##hplusroadmap: Total of 91 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 91 normal] 11:36 -!- Channel ##hplusroadmap created Thu Feb 25 23:40:30 2010 11:36 -!- mf1008 [~mf1008@unaffiliated/mf1008] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:36 -!- Irssi: Join to ##hplusroadmap was synced in 17 secs 11:36 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-173-49-237-221.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:37 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:38 < nmz787_w> chris_99: it is a thermionic (electrons boil off the surface of a hot filament, into vacuum, drawn/coaxed towards a charged plate through a column) 11:38 < nmz787_w> chris_99: as opposed to a Field Emission Gun 11:39 < nmz787_w> where there is a nice crystal endpoint 11:39 < chris_99> is that one of the earlier ones? 11:39 < nmz787_w> idk the right word, where all the faces intersect at a corner 11:39 < nmz787_w> thermionic are still used 11:39 < juri_> ours is as well. 11:39 < nmz787_w> but yeah it is about 30 years old 11:41 < nmz787_w> chris_99: http://richardandersson.net/?p=69 11:41 < nmz787_w> chris_99: pic of my pump setup https://www.takeitapart.com/guide/136#step-3 11:42 < chris_99> cheers let me have a looky 11:42 < nmz787_w> found one cable that wasn't connected inside the back panel... but alas I didn't get to an image last night 11:42 < chris_99> cool! the brown pipes are the vacuum ones? 11:42 < nmz787_w> yeah 11:45 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:47 -!- kghosh [~kelu124@mon75-h10-89-81-14-210.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:57 -!- nmz787_w [~ntmccork@134.134.139.78] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 12:13 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3050:e4a6:d0db:515] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:59 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:07 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@173-228-1-246.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:09 -!- refractal [~textual@66.111.12.42.static.nyinternet.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:14 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:3050:e4a6:d0db:515] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21 < adlai> BaconPlasma should read Inferno (or at least a tl;dr) 13:28 < adlai> all that talk about water wars and syria - idf 'education' about the "war is peace" between israel and syria (background - this was israel's quietest border for decades) always stressed that one of the main reasons for the tension was the sea of gallillee 13:30 < adlai> all that talk about bulldozers - yet why the everloving fuck does the idf pretend that 'collises' (transliteration of idf jargon for leftovers of tracked vehicles) are harmful to any and all ecosystems? they should just be sending all the exercises to the negev, all day, everyday 13:37 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@173-228-1-246.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:41 -!- refractal [~textual@66.111.12.42.static.nyinternet.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz...] 13:42 < kanzure> ah thankfully i missed that conversation, it even escaped my glance in the backlog 13:44 < adlai> somehow i suspect you'd side with 06:11:54 ebowden | Couldn't you just shoot them? 13:45 -!- refractal [~textual@66.111.12.42.static.nyinternet.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:47 < kanzure> yeah i propose an immediate ban of BaconWhoever for politics 13:48 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@173-228-1-246.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:51 -!- chris_999 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:52 -!- kghosh [~kelu124@mon75-h10-89-81-14-210.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:52 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:52 -!- chris_999 is now known as chris_99 13:53 < adlai> (=? politics ethics) 13:54 < kanzure> nah he was just in the backlog trying to politicize transhumanism; ain't nobody got time for that. 13:54 < kanzure> if you want to kill all humans, that's fine, no need to make it political or whatever his goal was 14:03 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:07 < adlai> it's amazing how quickly a serious ethics talk between thinking humans converges upon "kill everybody", and how nobody lifts a finger to actually do that, despite there having been a ~dozen firearms within reach 14:09 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@59.167.44.221] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@59.167.44.221] has quit [Changing host] 14:11 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:12 < chris_99> Do you peeps think i'd be right in thinking that the majority of modern scientists focus on a very narrow part of a particular science, rather than having a broader range of research interests, if that is true, why is that the case? 14:14 < kanzure> well, one catalyzing factor is that it's popular to throw up your hands and claim "information overload" rather than encouraging people to systematize the mess 14:15 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:15 < chris_99> mm that's a good point 14:16 < kanzure> also, it's really hard to get a grant from the zoo if you talk about both giraffe research and the astrophysics of neutron stars 14:16 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:16 < chris_99> haha 14:18 < adlai> there's even a cartoon (no i'm not gonna misuse dawkins's brilliant coinage) floating around the reddits telling phd candidates to push harder at their one tiny corner, as though that advances anybody anywhere 14:19 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28 -!- refractal [~textual@66.111.12.42.static.nyinternet.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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"met obnoxious jew, he pretended not to recognize my twitter avatar" 19:45 < justanotheruser> is that kanzure? 19:45 < adlai> probably? 19:45 < justanotheruser> your twitter avatar appears to be an egg 19:45 < justanotheruser> I recognize it 19:45 < adlai> 'your'? 19:46 < kanzure> adlai is saying that adlai is an obnoxious jew 19:46 < adlai> if you mean twitter.com/adlai, i don't control that account 19:46 < justanotheruser> Seems I'm pretty lost in who's saying what 19:46 < kanzure> my conversation database is currently a 5.4 MB yaml text file 19:46 < justanotheruser> o_o 19:46 < justanotheruser> does that come in handy? 19:47 < adlai> shouldn't you at least shard it? 19:47 < kanzure> fits in RAM just fine :P 19:47 < justanotheruser> adlai: in case his text editor can't handle 5.4MB? 19:47 < kanzure> justanotheruser: oh definitely. i wouldn't know who any of you assholes are, otherwise. 19:48 < justanotheruser> now I want to see how many tags I can hit 19:48 < adlai> "The holy grail is to make kanzure swap" - banksy 19:49 < kanzure> i used to do graphing, 19:49 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/meetlog/2009-10-01_to_2010-03-01.png 19:49 < kanzure> also the dataset was public and available on the web for the first ~2 years until someone asked me to stop :\ 19:50 < justanotheruser> is the red line occurrences of you meeting someone? 19:50 < kanzure> top right corner has the legend 19:51 < kanzure> these are daily counts of number of unique individuals that engaged in conversation 19:51 < justanotheruser> oh, doesn't fit my screen :P 19:52 < kanzure> "learned of" was me plotting things like "oh you should meet bob boblaw" (recommendations) and various people i've been stalking but not contacting yet 19:53 < justanotheruser> now plot the number of people you mean to meet every day and the number of people you've met from that set 19:54 < kanzure> "mean to meet" i don't track that, unfortunately 19:56 -!- bkero [~bkero@osuosl/staff/bkero] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56 -!- bkero [~bkero@bke.ro] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:56 -!- bkero [~bkero@bke.ro] has quit [Changing host] 19:56 -!- bkero [~bkero@osuosl/staff/bkero] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:58 < kanzure> justanotheruser: sometimes i worry about the privacy implications of this 20:22 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ihhjilrwgvfzmzaw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 20:27 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:37 -!- delinquentme [~delinquen@173-228-1-246.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:44 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14 < justanotheruser> don't worry, privacy doesn't exist anymore 21:16 < adlai> of course it does, nobody knows how long i trimmed my beard before my parents were born 21:18 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.96.67] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:18 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@1.136.96.67] has quit [Changing host] 21:18 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:22 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:24 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:27 -!- HEx1 [~HEx@hexwab.plus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:34 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:54 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-173-49-237-221.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:10 -!- balrog [~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:40 -!- justanotheruser is now known as leibnitz 22:40 -!- leibnitz is now known as OfficialLeibniz 22:42 -!- Zer0_coo1 [~Zer0_cool@75-111-194-160.lbbkcmtk01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:45 -!- Zer0_cool [~Zer0_cool@208.167.254.71] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:47 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:50 -!- Z3r0_cool [~Zer0_cool@208.167.254.26] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:53 -!- Zer0_coo1 [~Zer0_cool@75-111-194-160.lbbkcmtk01.res.dyn.suddenlink.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:11 -!- Z3r0_cool [~Zer0_cool@208.167.254.26] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:36 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@pool-173-49-237-221.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] --- Log closed Thu Jan 05 00:00:56 2017