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01:06 < archels_> friend is looking for a derogatory term for cyborgs/human-machine hybrids for a fiction tale
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01:27 < archels_> automated MATLAB-to-Python conversion is, evidently, hopeless
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04:42 < cluckj> http://waag.org/en/blog/diy-maker-movement-being-hijacked
04:42 < cluckj> :\
04:46 < cluckj> I'm going to post to the thread on the diybio ml that the dude made but ugh
04:48 < chris_99> i'm unsure what that blog post is trying to say
04:48 < chris_99> it's being hijacked by what/who
04:53 < chris_99> i'm just looking at the post on the mailing list, what does trump/brexit have to do with diying stuff, i'm confused
04:55 < cluckj> I think what he is saying is that because of the "self-reliance" idea, that diy *can* be hijacked by the nationalist right
04:55 < cluckj> I'm not sure if that is based on what he is seeing, or on what he thinks
04:55 < chris_99> sounds very odd to me
04:56 < cluckj> because from literally everything I've seen coming out of DIY stuff, the farthest right that folks in there are is libertarian
04:57 < cluckj> I don't think that right-nationalism is going to capture diybio the way that neoliberalism does
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05:06 < cluckj> ehh talking to some other social scientists who are in diy/diybio to see if they are seeing any of that nationalism stuff there
05:07 < chris_99> be interested to know what you find
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05:34 < kanzure> cluckj: leave politics out of this; they were right to burn him to death for posting that.
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05:40 < cluckj> lol
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05:51 < streety> personally I think diybio has hijacked diy. When I think of DIY I'm thinking of putting up a shelf, painting a wall, installing a driveway, not designing plasmids
05:51 < chris_99> lol
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06:14 < cluckj> haha
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07:35 < cluckj> chris_99, I think the answer is "no, not really" but the pool is small
07:36 < chris_99> aha
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07:54 < cluckj> there is a history of DIY + right-authoritarianism, but the current maker/diybio stuff is pretty incompatible and divergent from that particular history
07:56 < kanzure> nooo politics
07:56 < cluckj> pssssshhhhhhhh
07:56 < cluckj> fine
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08:27 < TMA> cluckj: risking the wrath of the powers that be for chipping in, I would say that the fears expressed in that opinion piece are mostly ungrounded.
08:27  * cluckj duck and cover
09:15 < chris_99> nmz787, https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/3dfacture/chipseasy-smart-electronic-component-organizer?ref=user_menu thought that looked quite cool, but not cheap
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10:22 < kanzure> .title http://deepspec.org/events/ss17detail.html
10:22 < yoleaux> DeepSpec: The Science of Deep Specification
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11:16 < chris_99> https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity15/technical-sessions/presentation/son is a clever idea
11:16 < chris_99> .title
11:16 < yoleaux> Rocking Drones with Intentional Sound Noise on Gyroscopic Sensors | USENIX
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13:31 < kanzure> [/whois cardboard64
13:31 < kanzure> oh crud.
13:31 < cardboard64> heh
13:31 < kanzure> uh, hi
13:32 < cardboard64> let me whois you then
13:32 < kanzure> no don't, it's like looking into the abyss
13:32 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/hplusroadmap
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15:18 < kanzure> "A systematic comparison of error correction enzymes by next-generation sequencing" http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/01/15/100685
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15:35 < kanzure> "Efficient, footprint-free human iPSC genome editing by consolidation of Cas9/CRISPR and piggyBac technologies" http://www.nature.com/nprot/journal/v12/n1/full/nprot.2016.152.html
15:35 < kanzure> "Using this approach, in 7 weeks it is possible to efficiently obtain genome-edited clones with minimal off-target mutagenesis and with indel mutation frequencies of 40-50% and homology-directed repair (HDR) frequencies of 10-20%." what's with the high indels? are those targeted indels or off-target...
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16:43 < kanzure> "Tsunami mitigation by resonant triad interaction with acoustic-gravity waves" http://www.heliyon.com/article/e00234
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16:46 < cluckj> that's pretty cool
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18:40 < kanzure> yashgaroth: saw the writeup, thanks
18:41 < yashgaroth> coo'
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19:49 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=1c35cc07 Bryan Bishop: add rs6591536 for smelling β-ionone (floral) fragrance >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/genetic-modifications/
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21:34 < nmz787> .tell chris_99 that chipseasy thing looks pretty cool... my first thought/hope was that it had an SD/microSD card on-board, to keep a copy of any inventory... but it says the software is open-source so maybe that would be easy to add (if needed for backup, or for trading off the unit between people/teams, maybe adding a touchscreen interface, etc)
21:34 < yoleaux> nmz787: I'll pass your message to chris_99.
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