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[~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust4.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:53 -!- crescendo [~mozart@unaffiliated/crescendo] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:23 < eb3c90> I'm curious how people find time to work on their projects (I've gone part time myself). 12:24 < maaku> eb3c90: nootropics 12:24 < maaku> in all seriousness I haven't had anywhere near the amount of time I should have to work on these things 12:25 < maaku> the real answer, other than legally prescribed amphetamines, is to find projects that double-dip 12:26 < eb3c90> Double-dip? 12:26 < maaku> there's a handful of projects I've been able to pursue that are both what my employer needs and also happen to further e.g. an AI project or basic research relevant to my hobbyist projects 12:26 < eb3c90> Ah nice. 12:27 < maaku> e.g. I'm working on a smart contracting language for my (fintech/Bitcoin) employer that by coincidence also happens to have 90% overlapping requirements as the internal virtual machine for my AGI project 12:28 < eb3c90> Cunning. I'm curious about your AGI project. 12:30 < maaku> at the high level, it's a CogPrime architecture (Goertzel's design), described in Engineering General Intelligence : http://link.springer.com/book/10.2991%2F978-94-6239-027-0 12:30 < streety> how do you handle issues with ownership in that situation? 12:31 < maaku> just vastly different in the details -- chosen different algorithms, different memory structure, etc. 12:31 < maaku> streety: everything I work on is open-source 12:32 < maaku> or at least intended to be open-source, if not actually so from day 1 12:33 < streety> nice, that solves that problem 12:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-101-180-233-178.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@CPE-101-180-233-178.lnse3.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Changing host] 12:37 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:37 < maaku> I'm definately lucky in the setup I've got ... but then I've got this setup because I explicitly worked to find/create this kind of job 12:38 < maaku> which is the real advice I was trying to convey -- engineer yourself into a position where you can double-dip as much as possible 12:38 < eb3c90> I've not kept abreast of what Goertzel is up to. I probably should. 12:39 < maaku> meh, OpenCog is junk. and that group tends to spend their time chasing fads. 12:40 < maaku> but the architectural idea underlying it is pretty solid imho. just skim the book if you're interested (sci-hub is your friend) 12:41 -!- bluebear_ [~dluhos@80.95.97.194] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:42 -!- q4 [~q4@user-94-254-233-126.play-internet.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:43 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 < eb3c90> This seems like a reasonable overview. http://wiki.opencog.org/w/CogPrime_Overview Seems similar from when I was in the agi mailing list. 12:49 < maaku> There's a semi-active Freenode channel as well (#opencog I think?) 13:02 < maaku> "OpenCog is junk" wasn't helpful, sorry. OpenCog makes too many simplifying approximations from the CogPrime ideal, and the code itself is pretty poor quality. 13:10 < eb3c90> Trying to make the system that embodies your ideals is hard. But I think worthwhile. Otherwise your not really testing your ideal. My code quality ain't great. I tell myself it is only an alpha. 14:14 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-167-177-79.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:14 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-226-108-27.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:45 < kanzure> greetings, fleshmaggots! 14:48 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:504b:8587:d413:e504] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:48 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:504b:8587:d413:e504] has quit [Changing host] 14:48 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:48 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35 < eb3c90> "Fleshmaggot for the moment" please 15:48 -!- eb3c90 [~kvirc@host86-163-99-235.range86-163.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:18 -!- ebowden_ [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:d9b0:8c50:b5f6:6015] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:103c:ee00:d9b0:8c50:b5f6:6015] has quit [Changing host] 16:19 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:27 < kanzure> bah 16:39 -!- q4 [~q4@user-94-254-233-126.play-internet.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:46 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:06 -!- vikraman [~vh4x0r@gentoo/developer/vikraman] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:08 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-065-237.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:13 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:17 -!- jenelizabeth__ [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust4.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:27 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@105.62.40.248] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:29 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:32 < kanzure> andytoshi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modafinil 17:48 -!- jenelizabeth [~jenelizab@cpc76810-brmb10-2-0-cust4.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:52 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:59 < kanzure> "One of the more interesting demos of this tech is a Microsoft/GE joint project that used drones to take pictures of power lines, sent that data to the Azure IoT Suite, which then performed visual analysis to determine which power lines were damaged or deteriorating, saving the cost of sending humans out to climb up these structures" 17:59 < kanzure> from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13592009 18:04 < kanzure> someone should make a drone bee hive truck trailer for drone battery charging/storage/deployment. 18:27 < kanzure> some complaints about "relationships" at i-banks and how those are not easily automated https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13592955 18:53 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:07 < kanzure> superkuh: do you have any evidence that big hippocampus is better hippocampus? 19:12 < andytoshi> kanzure: is there a youtube of your talk in MI? 19:13 < kanzure> not to my knowledge 19:13 < andytoshi> what was the conference called? 19:13 < kanzure> wasn't a conference 19:14 < kanzure> i was just invited to hang out at beacon-center.org 19:14 < andytoshi> ah, kk, i'll google around 19:14 * kanzure sleeps 19:34 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:56 -!- vikraman [~vh4x0r@gentoo/developer/vikraman] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:10 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:14 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:19 -!- cynsia [cyn@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe79:d5d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:23 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@105.62.40.248] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:24 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:27 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:47 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:25 -!- jtimon [~quassel@245.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:27 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:51 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:03 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:06 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:28 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:36 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:37 < heath> .title https://github.com/asciimoo/wuzz 23:37 < yoleaux> GitHub - asciimoo/wuzz: Interactive cli tool for HTTP inspection 23:40 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:41 -!- esmerelda [~mabel@2601:602:9603:a3f8:626d:c7ff:fe5f:86c7] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:43 -!- augur [~augur@2601:640:8001:4222:5ae:3b47:a21a:5143] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:46 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:47 < superkuh> Anyone know of US case precedent regarding 5th amendment protections of people with medical prosthesis? 23:48 < superkuh> re: http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2017/02/07/pacemaker-arson/97615060/ in general. 23:49 < esmerelda> things like fingerprints and DNA are not protected by the 5th amendment 23:49 < esmerelda> so I wouldn't think pacemakers would be different --- Log closed Wed Feb 08 00:00:27 2017