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[~cluckj@static-98-114-125-87.phlapa.ftas.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:50 < kanzure> "Large-scale analysis of CRISPR-cas9 cell-cycle knockouts reveals the diversity of p53-dependent responses to cell-cycle defects" http://www.cell.com/developmental-cell/fulltext/S1534-5807(17)30039-4 07:52 < kanzure> from https://twitter.com/iaincheeseman/status/832775350530633728 08:04 < kanzure> "Genome editing using FACS enrichment of nuclease-expressing cells and indel detection by amplicon analysis" http://www.nature.com/nprot/journal/v12/n3/full/nprot.2016.165.html 08:06 < kanzure> hrm http://git.osmocom.org/ 08:17 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:21 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:26 < kanzure> .wik AR-R17779 08:26 < yoleaux> "AR-R17779 is a drug that acts as a potent and selective full agonist for the ?7 subtype of neural nicotinic acetylcholine receptors. It has nootropic effects in animal studies, but its effects do not substitute for those of nicotine. It has also recently been studied as a potential novel treatment for arthritis." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-R17779 08:39 < kanzure> wonder how bad viruses are at targeting neuronal subtypes. i guess you could use lots of expression-gated constructs as tests to see what neuron you're being expressed in. 08:42 < kanzure> and whether we have the data on what gets expressed for all the umpteen zillion cell differentiation types 08:43 < kanzure> oh right, it's not enough to know what subtype you are because what matters more is the neighborhood. hmm. well, maybe you could have viruses with cas9 payloads and the payloads only activate in the presence of ultrasound/magnetic stimulation which you could localize to a specific brain target area. 08:58 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 -!- night [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:09 -!- OfficialLeibniz [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:09 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:09 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:09 -!- yorick [~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:09 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 -!- Adifex [~Adifex@unaffiliated/adifex] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:09 -!- Adifex is now known as night 09:10 -!- abetusk [~abe@68.175.143.22] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:10 -!- abetusk is now known as Guest30625 09:11 -!- OfficialLeibniz [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:20 -!- yorick_ [~yorick@oftn/oswg-member/yorick] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:32 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@135.84.167.210] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:52 < kanzure> hgp-write (human genome project) meeting may 2017 registration is open http://engineeringbiologycenter.org/may-2017-meeting/ 10:03 < kanzure> boom registered to attend 10:04 -!- Guest30625 is now known as abetusk 10:37 < kanzure> http://engineeringbiologycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/GP-Write-WhitePaper.pdf 10:37 < kanzure> hgp-write videos from 2016 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHpV_30XFQ8R2Kpcc1pwwXsFnJOCQVndt 10:59 -!- Regex [~Cara@2601:1c0:8500:5edb:a4bb:1281:f136:3681] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:00 < chris_99> https://www.fraunhofer.de/en/press/research-news/2017/february/app-reveals-constituents.html -- does anyone understand how that works, i'm really struggling to understand how, with just visible light shone onto an apple, using the camera, you can detect pesticides 11:04 < chris_99> like it doesn't mention anything about any hardware modification like grating etc. 11:09 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=f5e8c28e Bryan Bishop: hgp-write 2016: overview >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/hgp-write/2016-05-10/overview/ 11:12 < kanzure> :( "So where do we start with this? As I've said, we're talking about a cell line, engineered for safety, this would be presumably an IPS cell so that it would have the capability of being differentiable into different types of tissues, and it would be engineered to have a strict germline firewall. For example, removal of one of the sex chromosomes, an XO cell line, would be a simple way to en... 11:12 < kanzure> ...sure that this would not be able to become a germline. These cells can be differentiated into tissues and organoids, models of human organs, to evaluate the functional effects of any designer changes that are introduced." 11:12 < kanzure> how are they going to stop you from synthesizing the other chromosomes? 11:12 < kanzure> why would they want to stop you from synthesizing the other chromosomes, too? 11:18 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:37 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:39 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:41 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:44 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:d54b:ce2c:7d28:2b2e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:47 -!- Gurkenglas_ [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-008-026-005.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:49 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-008-026-005.178.008.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:16 < nmz787_> chris_99: pretty neat, that fraunhofer thing 12:16 < chris_99> yeah i think i get it roughly now, but don't see the advantage over a grating 12:17 < nmz787_> chris_99: seems like it is just generally using the display as a monochrome photon source, and using the camera as a 3 channel detector 12:17 < chris_99> mm and cycles through different colours 12:17 < nmz787_> and using algorithms in between to extract as much information from the limited data 12:17 < nmz787_> yeah 12:18 < chris_99> it seems very clever, but yeah i don't get why you'd use it over a normal vis spectrometer 12:18 < nmz787_> well as they said, they can take advantage of the millions/billions of existing devices 12:18 < chris_99> mm true 12:18 < nmz787_> any RGB camera it basically is a 3 channel spectrometer 12:19 < chris_99> i think i may have asked this before, but is there a decent open spectral db you could reference 12:20 < nmz787_> PLOTS has something, but I don't know if it is decent quality 12:20 < chris_99> oh yeah i've seen that, but yeah i dunno about the quality either 12:20 < nmz787_> my guess is some of their data is better quality than other 12:21 < nmz787_> (I mean mixed quality, some users submitting great stuff, others subpar) 12:21 < chris_99> mm 12:21 < JayDugger> nn 12:21 < chris_99> wait you do mean this right - https://spectralworkbench.org/ 12:22 < nmz787_> yeah 12:22 < JayDugger> That's interesting, thanks. 12:23 < nmz787_> from what I remember about the Raman spectrometers that i.e. govt/security agencies use, the database is a MAJOR part of what you pay for as a user 12:24 < nmz787_> or at least that was my gut feeling, based on what they were selling the hardware for 12:24 < chris_99> ahh 12:24 < chris_99> pity 12:24 < nmz787_> (which is of course very specialized and not-very-high-volume manufacturing... but still seemed 10 to 20X less from my personal development estimates) 12:25 < nmz787_> I mean my estimated BOM was 10-20X less than they sales price of the commercial units 12:25 < chris_99> ah interesting, did you start making one? 12:25 < nmz787_> now, maybe I was not considering all the engineering cost that went in over years of work 12:25 < nmz787_> vs just BOM 12:27 < chris_99> https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/High-pressure-high-temperature-BARS-system_113116102.html thought that was interesting, i wonder how long it takes to pay back the ~$150k with synthetic diamonds 12:27 < nmz787_> chris_99: mostly was just planning... worked on that spectrometer CCD board, researched what optics seemed ideal, found manufacturer in China for the combo curved-grating, found filters, found some light sources 12:27 < chris_99> gotcha, i remember you saying how expensive the gratings are i think 12:43 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:46 -!- OfficialLeibniz [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:49 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:d54b:ce2c:7d28:2b2e] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=8d99c04f Bryan Bishop: hgp-write: synthetic yeast genome project lessons learned >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/hgp-write/2016-05-10/synthetic-yeast-genome-project-lessons-learned/ 12:55 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=1ecde6da Bryan Bishop: hgp-write transcript: george church >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/hgp-write/2016-05-10/from-recoli-to-1-million-genomes/ 12:55 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/hgp-write/2016-05-10/from-recoli-to-1-million-genomes/ 12:56 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=7059606a Bryan Bishop: fix minor typo >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/hgp-write/2016-05-10/from-recoli-to-1-million-genomes/ 12:56 < kanzure> "If we go forward to today, we have 8 major tools for genome engineering and editing, including group 2 introns, cas9, meganuclease, recombinase, ZnF, ALE, recA CAGE, and lambda bet/exo MAGE" 12:56 < kanzure> "We have crystal structures for most of these, but not for lambda beta to my dismay" 12:58 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=474036f6 Bryan Bishop: another typo, this time about TALE >> 12:58 -!- eb3c90 [~kvirc@host81-147-141-244.range81-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:59 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:d54b:ce2c:7d28:2b2e] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:01 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:09 -!- sachy [~sachy@nat.brmlab.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:15 -!- yorick_ is now known as yorick 13:21 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:55b1:8de1:cb26:d5b5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:26 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:27 < chris_99> nmz787_, you have one of those cube laser engraver things don't you? 13:27 < nmz787_> yeah 13:27 < chris_99> i'm wondering, given enough passes if you cut cut expoxy of an IC with one 13:28 < nmz787_> was planning to change the laser to a blu-ray drive optical sled/module... which I bought with a controller circuit from the top of this page http://www.diyouware.com/store 13:28 < nmz787_> hmm 13:28 < nmz787_> chris_99: can you give an example of epoxy on an IC? I mean, how do I identify one as such, from the ICs I have laying around 13:29 < nmz787_> just the generic black plastic most chips look like? 13:29 < chris_99> i mean any IC they generally use epoxy afaik, try a 555 timer or something if you can 13:29 < chris_99> i was thinking if you can use for ICs i might get one, as i have microscope already 13:29 < nmz787_> mmm 13:29 < kanzure> this one? http://www.the-odin.com/plasmid-pje202-pvib-to-create-bioluminescent-bacteria/ 13:30 < nmz787_> ok, I need to build a wooden work bench for the next at least hour... so I can setup some biolab equipment I pulled out of my garage 13:30 < nmz787_> but I will try to get that done this week chris_99 13:30 < chris_99> cheers, good luck with your wood work 13:30 < nmz787_> kanzure: yeah that is the one I ordered 13:30 < kanzure> typo on that page 'bioluminescience' 13:31 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:33 < chris_99> nmz787_, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGa3xfVPwGA they wrote some text on one heh 13:39 < nmz787_> chris_99: cool! is that easier than chemical etching? 13:40 < nmz787_> chris_99: I have some violin rosin that someone long ago said worked as an etchant 13:40 < chris_99> i do have fuming nitric, but no hot plate 13:40 < nmz787_> chris_99: http://hackaday.com/2010/07/16/decapping-integrated-circuits-with-sap/ 13:41 < chris_99> i'm very tempted now heh, they're like ?57 apparently for a 1W one 13:41 < nmz787_> that's $74... with shipping ? 13:42 < nmz787_> I think I paid $100 or $120 with shipping 13:42 < chris_99> www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEJE-DK-8-KZ-High-Power-Laser-Engraver-Printer-Machine-1000mW-1000MW-/282303551315 shipping is free 13:42 -!- eb3c90 [~kvirc@host81-147-141-244.range81-147.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:42 -!- eb3c90 [~kvirc@host81-147-141-244.range81-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:44 < nmz787_> chris_99: the button on top is something mine lacks 13:44 < chris_99> heh is that like an emergency stop thing 13:44 < nmz787_> chris_99: with the mention of an SD card... I wonder if it has some offline/not-attached-to-PC mode... though they don't annotate a SD slot in their pics 13:44 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:45 < nmz787_> "Can be used offline, even if leave the computer,only connect the two USB ports to charger or power bank (5V 1A)." 13:46 < chris_99> what's a TF card? 13:47 < chris_99> oh sounds like it means microsd 13:48 < nmz787_> yeah 13:48 < nmz787_> chris_99: this might be a few pounds cheaper, looks like it is cheaper in USD http://www.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d-printer-kits/pp_343187.html 13:48 < nmz787_> says free shipping to UK 13:49 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:49 < chris_99> cheers 13:53 < chris_99> there seems some on taobao ever cheaper actually 13:53 < chris_99> *even 13:56 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-106-183-082.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:57 -!- Gurkenglas_ 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for 0.05" (1.27 mm) pitch prototype PCBs? 14:29 < kanzure> https://scotthelme.co.uk/csrf-is-dead/ 14:30 < kanzure> http://engineeringbiologycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/HGP-write-May-Meeting-Summary.pdf 15:06 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:06 < gnusha_> https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=ec7a2e67 Bryan Bishop: add ultra-safe cell line diagram >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/transcripts/hgp-write/2016-05-10/ultra-safe-cell-line/ 15:07 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:15 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:23 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:38 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:44 < gnusha_> 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It was serialized in Kodansha's seinen magazine Evening from August 2004 to June 2013 and moved to the magazine Morning two, where it concluded in January 2014." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moyasimon 19:56 < kanzure> "The series follows Tadayasu Sawaki, a first-year college student at an agricultural university, who has a unique ability to see and communicate with bacteria and other microorganisms." 19:58 < cluckj> it is a weird show, but totally watchable 20:04 < adlai> http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/assets/searle.jpg 20:05 < kanzure> adlai: searle is a waste of time 20:06 < adlai> did you see the image or just go by the filename? 20:07 < adlai> how about i supply the text that linked to it: ""The shortest, funniest refutation of Searle's Chinese Room"" 20:07 < kanzure> for shortest they should have just used the last pane though 20:08 < cluckj> I got searle to autograph derrida's limited, inc. 20:09 -!- seanph [~seanph@180.168.253.5] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:09 < cluckj> conned really, but that was kind of the idea 20:26 < kanzure> something about flies http://www.columbia.edu/cu/alumni/Magazine/Legacies/Morgan/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13692166 20:27 < kanzure> .title http://www.bionet.ee.columbia.edu/hackathons/ffbh/2017 20:27 < yoleaux> Fruit Fly Brain Hackathon 2017 | Bionet 20:27 < cluckj> that looks cool, I need to get back into the research game :\ 20:31 < kanzure> you think this is a game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493ljyoox6o 20:36 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-224-124-105.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36 -!- drewbot [~cinch@ec2-54-159-83-84.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:31 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:12 < nmz787_> archels: oshpark doesn't do that? 22:14 < nmz787_> archels: oshpark says they do 0.154mm pitch and line width minimums 22:14 < nmz787_> archels: http://docs.oshpark.com/services/two-layer/ 22:15 < nmz787_> archels: even smaller at 0.127 mm for 4-layer boards http://docs.oshpark.com/services/four-layer/ 22:25 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:31 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:32 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:46 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:26 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:41 -!- eb3c90 [~kvirc@host81-147-141-244.range81-147.btcentralplus.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap --- Log closed Tue Feb 21 00:00:39 2017