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ground states, potentially useful in organic spintronic devices" 09:42 < adlai> this would be a spintronic trit, which is quite cool 09:44 < kanzure> paperbot is taking a break for now 09:46 < adlai> i didn't join yesterday, it's a form of moment-of-silence 09:55 -!- dustinm [~dustinm@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:14 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:391f:4133:9b50:884d] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:14 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:391f:4133:9b50:884d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:16 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:391f:4133:9b50:884d] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:18 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:391f:4133:9b50:884d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:26 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:33 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@wpsoftware.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:05 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-106-183-082.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:06 -!- jtimon [~quassel@garage-jp.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:21 < kanzure> http://marc.info/?l=git&m=115678778717621&w=2 11:21 < kanzure> https://public-inbox.org/git/xmqqk28g92h7.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com/T/#t 11:29 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:29 -!- pompolic [~A@unaffiliated/pompolic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:33 < nmz787_w> .title 11:33 < yoleaux> SHA1 collisions found 11:35 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:391f:4133:9b50:884d] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:39 -!- augur [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:e1ba:1231:acd2:5496] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:41 < kanzure> petertodd's suggestion is to use two commits, one using the original hash function and one using a new hash function 11:41 < kanzure> so that git can be backwards compatibly upgraded 11:41 -!- augur_ [~augur@2601:645:8300:2b03:9dd3:a761:94b1:e0a4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:43 -!- jtimon 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That would fix most problems in academia by my measure... 14:57 < chris_99> mmm 15:00 < maaku> kanzure: signing your commits gets around most of this, since the signature covers the content of the commit, not just the hash, and uses SHA2 under the hood in most configurations 15:04 < maaku> or switch to monotone, which everyone should be using anyway 15:06 < maaku> it is my understanding that 'git commit -S' signs the contents of 'git show ' but my internet sucks too much to verify 15:09 < kanzure> ah. 15:09 < kanzure> great, i've been signing a bunch of my commits lately 15:09 < kanzure> and timestamping the signature and commit 15:10 < kanzure> opentimestamps provides a git wrapper so that git commit -S produces a signature and a timestamp (and the timestamp gets embedded in the commit object too) 15:11 < maaku> well it might be my faulty memory, i'd verify 15:12 < maaku> this internet connection seems to be useless for anything more than irc though 15:20 < kanzure> https://github.com/cr-marcstevens/sha1collisiondetection 15:20 < kanzure> http://marc.info/?l=git&m=148787924826248&w=2 15:22 < nmz787_w1> .g does a superconductor lack capacitance? 15:22 < yoleaux> http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/18641/what-is-the-capacitance-of-a-superconductor 15:23 < chris_99> hmm good question 15:23 < nmz787_w1> that points to this: 15:23 < nmz787_w1> https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/69667/what-is-the-rc-time-constant-in-a-superconductor 15:28 < chris_99> have you ever played with a micelson interferometer out of interest 15:29 < chris_99> i was reading, do they potentially provide more res 15:29 < chris_99> than a grating 15:36 < nmz787_w1> I used a white-light interferometer once, to get some 3D scans of a microchannel I cut in silicone with a CO2 laser... but the machine was all integrated and came with a fancy easy-to-use GUI... so I basically just put my chip/wafer underneath and focused and hit scan 15:37 < kanzure> what about a liquid table, just let everything float, then flush the table every day 15:37 < nmz787_w1> I have some half-silvered mirrors for making one though 15:37 < nmz787_w1> kanzure: you talking about vibration dampening for optics? 15:37 < kanzure> you could also do an ice bucket table if you don't like the idea of things floating around 15:38 < kanzure> wait what's on your table again? 15:38 < nmz787_w1> me? 15:38 < nmz787_w1> I am making a workbench... water and ice might sit on that, but it cannot be made of it 15:38 < kanzure> i guess a microscope wouldn't float well :) i thought you meant things like petri dishes, pipettes and tubes 15:38 < nmz787_w1> I mean, 'ice lab' could be a cool concept (literally and figuratively) 15:39 < nmz787_w1> yeah it is sort of all-the-above 15:39 < nmz787_w1> pipettes would contaminate even if they floated 15:40 < nmz787_w1> and now that pushes the manufacture/purchase of a table-top to now some bucket to hold water :P 15:41 < nmz787_w1> chris_99: I've also wanted to make a fizeau interferometer 15:42 < nmz787_w1> chris_99: I was thinking I'd try making one integrated into some microfluidics... for non-contact water speed measurement 15:42 < chris_99> not heard of that, let me google 15:43 < nmz787_w1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizeau_interferometer#Experimental_setup 15:43 < nmz787_w1> instead of determining the speed of light, you substitute the known value, and solve for the fluid speed instead 15:43 < nmz787_w1> this actually could have significant $$$ potential in the medical industry 15:44 < kanzure> ice bath wouldn't have the same contamination issues 15:44 < chris_99> interesting 15:44 < nmz787_w1> (I worked on a project that the medical industry was funding, to determine drug infusion rates) 15:44 < kanzure> (more ice than water i mean) 15:44 < nmz787_w1> until the ice starts to melt 15:44 < nmz787_w1> unless it was dry ice 15:44 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-106-183-082.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:51 < kanzure> "Cloudflare reverse proxies are dumping uninitialized memory" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13718752 16:02 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:06 < kanzure> more git sha1 stuff https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-February/013600.html and https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2017-February/013607.html 16:20 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13714987 16:20 < yoleaux> Peter Todd (Bitcoin core dev) set up a SHA-1 "Pinata" and it's been claimed | Hacker News 16:35 < kanzure> maaku: maybe each university's "Core facility" should operate a clone of transcriptic.com or something 16:45 < maaku> kanzure: even better if they made it available to use by industry and the surrounding community 16:45 < maaku> you might be able to make them do so by selling them on getting revenue for idle equipment 16:46 < kanzure> hmm these people seem to be doing standardized mouse studies using fancypants cage setups? http://www.vium.com/technology/ 16:52 < nmz787_w1> hmm, wayback doesn't have a record of this broken link: 16:52 < nmz787_w1> http://rsi.aip.org/resource/1/rsinak/v80/i12/p123302_s1 16:52 < nmz787_w1> any ideas? 16:54 < kanzure> .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13713953 16:54 < yoleaux> Most scientists 'can't replicate studies by their peers' | Hacker News 16:55 < kanzure> nmz787_w1: maybe http://ftp.aip.org/epaps/rev_sci_instrum/ 16:56 < kanzure> there's a bunch of -80- listings that might match your request 16:57 < kanzure> if you know what paper it comes from, this would be easier 16:58 < kanzure> "The quality factor of a superconducting rf resonator in a magnetic field" http://aip.scitation.org/doi/abs/10.1063/1.3271537?journalCode=rsi 17:06 < nmz787_w1> yeah I got that link another way, wasn't sure if it was the right one, as the citation didn't include a title or anything, was just a link in a stackoverflow post 17:31 -!- nmz787_w [~ntmccork@134.134.139.82] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:31 -!- nmz787_w [~ntmccork@134.134.139.82] has quit [Client Quit] 17:33 -!- nmz787_w1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.76] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cdrkfrbtzpzsjnvn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:39 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-106-183-082.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:17 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:42 -!- jtimon [~quassel@garage-jp.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 257 seconds] 19:14 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:36 < kanzure> hrmph 19:41 < nmz787_> hpmrh 19:47 < kanzure> https://thehftguy.com/2017/02/23/docker-in-production-an-update/ 20:01 -!- justan0theruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:02 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:07 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:9141:dcf0:13b2:648b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:46 -!- fleshtheworld [~fleshthew@2602:306:cf0f:4c20:9141:dcf0:13b2:648b] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:23 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:57 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-106-183-082.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:03 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2602:306:35fa:d500:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:06 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-106-183-082.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:30 -!- nmz787_w [~ntmccork@134.134.139.82] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:53 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Fri Feb 24 00:00:41 2017