--- Log opened Wed Apr 26 00:00:37 2017 00:06 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:07 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:08 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:24 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:39 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:41 -!- augur [~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:05 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:07 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:08 -!- augur [~augur@c-67-160-198-240.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:19 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.157.15.118] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:35 -!- drewbot [~cinch@54.226.17.51] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:37 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:38 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:40 -!- Qfwfq [Qfwfq@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-urxrmykmaqoquzam] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:06 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:12 -!- WizJin [WizJin@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-hjwuskzugwthkore] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:24 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:31 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has joined ##hplusroadmap 03:32 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:10 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:22 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:46 < kanzure> http://news.wgbh.org/2017/04/25/science-and-technology/mit-hosts-festival-fake-science 05:47 < kanzure> ""I propose that what killed the big dinosaur was no meteorite, but a brief reversal of earth's gravitational field," said James Propp, presenting his faux-theory. [...] "There's evidence that animals the size of cats or smaller might just be able to stick the landing," Propp said, pointing to an old study of cats falling from New York high rises. But as Propp explained, when big anima... 05:47 < kanzure> ...ls - like hefty dinosaurs - fell back to earth, they went splat ... right into extinction." 05:48 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:49 -!- Qfwfq [Qfwfq@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-urxrmykmaqoquzam] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49 -!- WizJin [WizJin@gateway/shell/fnordserver.eu/x-hjwuskzugwthkore] has quit [Write error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49 -!- TC is now known as Guest14002 05:49 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:53 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:38 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:06 < kanzure> "A practical guide to CRISPR/Cas9 genome editing in Lepidoptera" http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/04/25/130344 07:54 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:39 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@98.114.125.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:46 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.237.246] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:48 -!- nmz787_i [ntmccork@nat/intel/x-butgvhbtikxyhhca] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:00 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.75] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:03 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:13 < kanzure> whoever runs the asheville diybio wiki is still getting spammed 09:25 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.137.75] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:05 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:19 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:31 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.73] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:32 -!- nmz787_i [~ntmccork@134.134.139.72] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:35 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:31 -!- augur [~augur@74-95-6-5-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:33 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200dde14af849eaf1c1.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:44 -!- augur [~augur@74-95-6-5-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47 -!- augur [~augur@74-95-6-5-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:02 < nmz787_i1> kanzure: what about yasgaroth is awesome? 13:02 < kanzure> hpg-write has accepted yashgaroth as a human genome project-write pilot project 13:03 < nmz787_i1> that's more than just a paper being presented? 13:04 < kanzure> funding etc. 13:05 < nmz787_i1> neat 13:05 < kanzure> check your inbox 13:06 < nmz787_i1> cool 13:06 < nmz787_i1> hopefully it works out 13:08 < nmz787_i1> hmm, the message seems to say 'help to promote your work to funding' 13:09 < nmz787_i1> I wonder if they send these to all the scientists 13:10 < nmz787_i1> I can only think of the worst case, too: 'dear [X], we have begun patent filings based on your input' 'please expect to hear from our patent troll' 13:10 < kanzure> we have constructed proofs of his work existing prior to their patent applications, in that eventuality i think we're covered pretty well. 13:12 < nmz787_i1> hmm, I thought all that was out the window since they changed from 'first to publish' 13:12 < nmz787_i1> but then again, hopefully he kept some secret sauce out of the proposal 13:12 < nmz787_i1> 'haha the patent forgot the key ingredient. SALT' 13:13 < kanzure> the key ingredient is love.. 13:15 < nmz787_i1> MPEGLA is pretty convincingly a 'nice' org: http://www.mpegla.com/main/Pages/AboutHistory.aspx 13:16 < nmz787_i1> sounds like my grandma wouldn't have been able to copy Netflix discs without them 13:16 < nmz787_i1> (because no DVD) 13:17 < kanzure> MPEGLA is inherently evil, they are the ones that sue everyone for implementing video codecs 13:17 < nmz787_i1> lol, one of the management has the last name 'Skandalis' 13:17 < kanzure> it's the whole reason why stuff like ogg vorbis have to exist 13:17 < nmz787_i1> sounds prety scandalous 13:17 < nmz787_i1> kanzure: isn't ogg vorbis a good thing to have? 13:17 < nmz787_i1> I mean, I guess it must be sub-optimal 13:17 < nmz787_i1> since no one really uses it 13:18 < kanzure> http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/MPEG-LA 13:19 < nmz787_i1> so you think without them pooling all the MPEG patents, we'd ever have seen consumer MPEG devices? 13:21 -!- m4l3z [~m4l3z@2a01cb040226f200dde14af849eaf1c1.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:23 < kanzure> presumably the companies would have been less patent friendly in the absence of patent pools to execute their lawsuits for them 13:24 < nmz787_i1> their version says the companies were all fighting, causing the MPEGLA to form to act as an intermediary... to get them to play nicely together 13:30 < nmz787_i1> well, whatever generates the most entropy will win... fire up the engines! 13:31 < nmz787_i1> let's burn some coal 13:34 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:50 -!- augur [~augur@74-95-6-5-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:00 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:15 < nmz787_i1> hmm, I've gotta put together a timeline to erach a minimal viable proof-of-concept for microfluidic DNA synthesis... 14:15 < nmz787_i1> reach* 14:19 < nmz787_i1> we really need a project manager in here 14:30 < kanzure> how about gradstudentbot? 14:32 -!- UnknownRogue [~UnknownRo@184.75.209.102] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:48 -!- augur [~augur@74-95-6-5-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:58 < nmz787_i1> gradstudentbot didn't have managerial expertise 14:58 < nmz787_i1> I am actually serious... I wish we had someone who loved organization and wanted to help 'the cause' 15:01 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:08 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:21 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@5.79.76.32] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:22 -!- augur [~augur@74-95-6-5-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:28 -!- NikopolSohru [~NSohru@5.79.76.32] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:40 -!- augur [~augur@74-95-6-5-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:52 -!- augur [~augur@74-95-6-5-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54 -!- nmz787_i1 [~ntmccork@134.134.139.73] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07 < juri_> this is not a hackerspace, or a helpdesk. therefore, i have no relevant managerial skill. 16:33 -!- UnknownRogue [~UnknownRo@184.75.209.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:37 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@98.114.125.87] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:39 < juul> nmz787_: in my experience no-one loves doing just the organizational stuff 16:40 < juul> did i hear about someone who was making a low cost open hardware FPLC device in the bay area, or did i imagine that? 16:43 < cluckj> project managing....how 17:19 -!- superobserver [~superobse@unaffiliated/superobserver] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:50 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:56 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@98.114.125.87] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:08 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:38 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/Synthego/status/857391114860605440 18:38 < yoleaux> [Live Webinar] #CRISPR Genome Editing Best Practices for Primary & Stem Cells. http://hubs.ly/H07gvP10 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-YQrJWXoAE95Q_.jpg (@Synthego) 18:39 < kanzure> "A systematic nomenclature for the Drosophila ventral nervous system" http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/04/26/122952 https://twitter.com/biorxiv_neursci/status/857368879303098369 18:44 < kanzure> "Using high-throughput barcode sequencing to efficiently map connectomes" https://academic.oup.com/nar/article/doi/10.1093/nar/gkx292/3760189/Using-high-throughput-barcode-sequencing-to https://twitter.com/ipeikon/status/857269503767568384 18:45 < kanzure> hmm i guess this is the published version, and the bioriv version.. wasn't. 18:45 < kanzure> *biorxiv 18:46 < kanzure> let's compare the two versions: 18:46 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Using%20high-throughput%20barcode%20sequencing%20to%20efficiently%20map%20connectomes%20-%20v2%20-%202017.pdf 18:46 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/Using%20high-throughput%20barcode%20sequencing%20to%20efficiently%20map%20connectomes%20-%20v3%20-%202017.pdf 18:56 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:ac3d:fd74:908f:a66d] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:16 -!- fireprfHydra [~fireprfHy@69.5.115.4] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:20 -!- augur [~augur@192.195.83.130] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:38 < kanzure> interneuron migration in a cerebral organoid http://biorxiv.org/content/early/2017/04/26/131250 19:40 < kanzure> "Candidate genes mediating magnetoreception in rainbow trout (Oncorhynchus mykiss)" http://rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/13/4/20170142 19:43 < kanzure> more brain organoid things https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature22330.html 19:45 < kanzure> zuckerberg funding biorxiv http://www.nature.com/news/biorxiv-preprint-server-gets-cash-boost-from-chan-zuckerberg-initiative-1.21894 19:47 < kanzure> podcast about fox domestication selective breeding stuff https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/dogging-it-turning-wild-foxes-into-mans-second-best-friend/ 19:49 < kanzure> here is a diagram about photoacoustic tomography http://www.frontiersin.org/files/Articles/1560/fnene-02-00010/image_m/fnene-02-00010-g002.jpg 20:27 -!- superobserver [~superobse@unaffiliated/superobserver] has left ##hplusroadmap ["Leaving"] 20:52 -!- fireprfHydra [~fireprfHy@69.5.115.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:56 -!- Jen [~Jen@cpc76808-brmb10-2-0-cust571.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:53 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:09 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:54 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:ac3d:fd74:908f:a66d] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:06 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:11 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-188-103-222-233.188.103.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:19 -!- JayDugger [~jwdugger@47.185.237.246] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:24 < JayDugger> kanzure, that 2014 lucid dreaming induction paper mentions " Current strength was chosen well below sensory and below phosphene threshold, and smooth ramp-up/ramp-down phases were used to avoid awakening of the subject" 23:25 < JayDugger> Have you encountered any work on deliberate stimulation of phosphenes? 23:25 < JayDugger> NVM... 23:25 < JayDugger> found it. --- Log closed Thu Apr 27 00:00:37 2017