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02:10 < kanzure> hrm.
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06:14 < kanzure> "RNA-guided endonucleases (RGENs)"
06:15 < kanzure> oh, cas9. why was that listed separately from cas9. >:(
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10:21 < nmz787_i> sup
10:22 < nmz787_i> https://www.doleta.gov/oa/employers/apprenticeship_toolkit.pdf
10:23 < chris_99> did your forklift driver manage to do their job without decapitating anyone?
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10:25 < chris_99> ooh https://techcrunch.com/2017/05/30/the-turing-tumble-lets-you-and-your-kids-build-real-mechanical-computers/ looks pretty neat
10:26 < nmz787_i> chris_99: I was the forklift driver ;)
10:26 < nmz787_i> I've done it twice now :D
10:27 < chris_99> oh heh
10:27 < chris_99> go well then?
10:27 < nmz787_i> hehe, yeah, no hard slamming the machine this time on lowering it
10:27 < chris_99> nice
10:27 < nmz787_i> forklifts seem pretty easy
10:27 < chris_99> do they have gears, i've never seen one up close
10:27 < chris_99> like and a gear stick
10:28 < nmz787_i> I did keep mixing up the control levers, i.e. does pushing lower or does pulling
10:28 < nmz787_i> umm, it had a chain that I could see in my visual path through the front
10:29 < chris_99> ah, but you didn't have to use a gear stick or whatnot
10:29 < nmz787_i> so I imagine it is some gearbox below driving the chain
10:29 < chris_99> how do they actually lift up/down, is that pneumatic?
10:29 < nmz787_i> no just a lever for each action... otherwise it had a steering wheel and brake and gas pedals, and where a car turn-signal would be was Forward Neutral and Reverse
10:29 < chris_99> gotcha
10:29 < nmz787_i> hydraulic I imagine
10:30 < chris_99> ah interesting
10:30 < nmz787_i> up/down, tilt forward/back, and shift forks left/right
10:30 < nmz787_i> and the rear wheel is the drive and turn wheel
10:30 < chris_99> is the FIB safely at your place now then?
10:30 < nmz787_i> and it can turn to 90 degrees
10:30 < nmz787_i> so you can swivel the front of the forklift around pretty easily
10:30 < nmz787_i> yep, all safe in my garage!
10:31 < chris_99> woo
10:31 < chris_99> does it just run off normal 110V there?
10:31 < nmz787_i> I even test-lifted it with the pallet jack I got, pulled it back into the garage a few more inches
10:31 < nmz787_i> sticker shows 200-240 V, 16A max
10:31 < chris_99> ahh
10:31 < chris_99> oh so it needs more power than i thought
10:31 < nmz787_i> well, max might just be for initial spikes, motors spinning up, etc
10:32 < chris_99> ahh yeah
10:32 < nmz787_i> I can try to throw a kill-a-watt between
10:32 < chris_99> oh yeah that'd be cool. will it take a while to get a vacuum?
10:32 < nmz787_i> will have to look up using 220V with them
10:32 < chris_99> i've no idea how fast they get to the vacuum
10:32 < nmz787_i> might need one for each leg of the power or something
10:32 < nmz787_i> I'd guess 5 to 15 minutes
10:33 < nmz787_i> it might take a day or more after disassembly and reassembly
10:33 < chris_99> oh that's pretty fast, thought it might be hours for some reason
10:34 < nmz787_i> the seller quoted $8k for metal ion source refill (or replace maybe), while a local company offered $3.7k for a refill... though I could swear their sales reps told me less than $2k at a trade booth at a conference or something a while ago
10:34 < nmz787_i> maybe a diff local company though, so I will check some more
10:34 < nmz787_i> the source is warranted to 1000 hours, which it has on it now
10:35 < nmz787_i> but I guess I can get a handful of more hours out of it
10:35 < chris_99> oh, what's metal ion source mean? you mean that's a consumable thing, that the ions are generated from?
10:35 < nmz787_i> yeah
10:35 < nmz787_i> it's Gallium
10:35 < chris_99> oh interesitng
10:35 < nmz787_i> basically they wet a coil spring looking thing, Gallium melts at low temp
10:36 < nmz787_i> lower than solder I think
10:36 < nmz787_i> so idk, maybe I could somehow try to refill myself if I can get pure enough Gallium
10:36 < nmz787_i> haven't read into it at all yet
10:37 < chris_99> mmm that'd be cool if you can just whack in some new stuff, it makes you wonder why they quote so much
10:37 < chris_99> though
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11:44 < kanzure> http://wired.jp/2017/05/20/blame-movie/
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15:03 < kanzure> music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAN3WhjsLiY
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15:40 < nmz787_i> hmm, Gallium is being sold on Amazon.com at supposedly 99.99% purity... I wonder how many decimal places worth of 9's are needed for a good FIB beam
15:45 < nmz787_i> some 1ppm impurity stuff on fischersci for $25 99.9999%
15:48 < nmz787_i> hmm, sigma has 5G for $66 which has 5 decimal places... <0.2 ppm contams
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15:57 < thundara> Win10?
15:58 < thundara> Disregard^^
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17:26 < kanzure> why not do relativistic time travel in our solar system, just keep accelerating and hope that technology makes better acceleration to come and decelerate you eventually?
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17:31 < darsie> Relativistic speed is beyond escape velocity.
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17:42 < kanzure> so?
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18:30 < kanzure> https://www.crowdsupply.com/cryptech/open-hardware-security-module
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21:12 < kanzure> "Quantum chemical insights from deep tensor neural networks" https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.08259 (for molecular dynamics things)
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21:45 < jcorgan> that was an interesting paper
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