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04:50 < archels> via backlog https://ecodevoevo.blogspot.nl/2017/06/the-gwas-hoaxor-was-it-hoax-is-it-hoax.html
04:51 < archels> (more particularly, via "omnigenic"
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05:01 < kanzure> am i omnigenic?
05:06 < archels> if you identify yourself with your genomic traits, then yes
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06:27 < JayDugger> Good morning.
06:28 < kanzure> GREETINGS
06:28 < JayDugger> My god, such enthusiasm.
06:29 < JayDugger> I think I need more protein in my breakfast to withstand such vigor and vim.
06:31 < kanzure> you'll get 1 protein and 0 vim. acceptable?
06:32 < JayDugger> Done. (I worship at Church Of Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping.)
06:34 < emeraldgreen1> good day
06:36 < JayDugger> Good morning.
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09:52 < kanzure> .wik iso 7816
09:52 < yoleaux> "ISO/IEC 7816 is an international standard related to electronic identification cards with contacts, especially smart cards, managed jointly by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC)." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_7816
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10:10 < kanzure> that one time i accidentally doxxed the creator of scihub and maybe it's my fault she has a $15M judgement against her https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14633947
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12:08 < kanzure> http://li.mit.edu/Archive/Papers/16/Fedotov16RichmanWeldingJ.pdf
12:09 < kanzure> "Brazing molybdenum and graphite with a titanium-based powder filler metal" http://li.mit.edu/Archive/Papers/16/Fedotov16RichmanWeldingJ.pdf
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12:32 < nmz787_i> sup
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12:33 < nmz787_i> got my garage cleaned up a bit yesterday, still a bit more to go before I can add a few new wall for the FIB area... I think I need to take down some cabinets
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17:11 < kanzure> pancake picker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg8YYuLLoM0&feature=youtu.be&t=77
17:14 < nmz787_i> 400 ppm (pancakes per minute)
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18:21 < kanzure> hm.
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18:59 < kanzure> so about those $1B global warming solutions, why were they $1B? was that just a nice-sounding number?
18:59 < kanzure> i don't recall if anyone looked into optimizing those things
19:02 < kanzure> http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=02102015
19:03 < kanzure> "Modelling radiative and climate effects of aerosols: from Anthropogenic emissions to geoengineering" https://helda.helsinki.fi/bitstream/handle/10138/161360/MODELLING%20RADIATIVE%20AND%20CLIMATE%20EFFECTS%20OF%20AEROSOLS%20FROM%20ANTHROPOGENIC%20EMISSIONS%20TO%20GEOENGINEERING.pdf?sequence=1
19:04 < kanzure> "An analysis of climate engineering as a response to climate change" http://www.copenhagenconsensus.com/sites/default/files/ap_climate_engineering_bickel_lane_v.5.0.pdf
19:05 < kanzure> wtf this thing as an annual budget of $250B?
19:06 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_Consensus_Center
19:06 < kanzure> ok nevermind. no.
19:08 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_climate_engineering_topics
19:09 < kanzure> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_engineering#Proposed_strategies
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19:15 < kanzure> above is re: my comment here, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14641693
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19:32 < kanzure> .wik atacama large millimeter array
19:32 < yoleaux> "The Atacama Large Millimeter/submillimeter Array (ALMA) is an astronomical interferometer of radio telescopes in the Atacama desert of northern Chile. Since a high and dry site is crucial to millimeter and submillimeter wavelength operations, the array has been constructed on the Chajnantor plateau at 5,000 metres (16,000 ft) altitude,  ..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atacama_Large_Millimeter_Array
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19:57 < fenn> .title http://www.eso.org/public/unitedkingdom/images/potw1726a/
19:58 < yoleaux> Betelgeuse captured by ALMA | ESO United Kingdom
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20:46 < kanzure> i wonder if getting the cost of geoengineering climate change down to $100 million would make things any more likely to happen
20:46 < kanzure> seems like the bottleneck is really just funding someone with a large enough pocketbook who is also okay with unilateral deployment without waiting for global signoff from literally every nation
20:48 < kanzure> with a star shade method you could at least have some argument available that it's reversible
20:53 < kanzure> another way to do it would be to launch a star shade but set it on a timer, and then you could hold the entire planet hostage to the timer
20:54 < fenn> ship bubblers are pretty reversible and scale easily
20:58 < kanzure> north korea should do it.
21:00 < kanzure> you need someone who wants to dump in $400M mostly for the publicity (or perhaps philanthropy)
21:00 < fenn> the idea is to piggyback on international trade ships, since they're already crossing the ocean all the time
21:00 < kanzure> merck doesn't want that publicity x-risk associated with themselves.
21:01 < kanzure> so far the reason why this hasn't happened yet is because all the politicians/ethicists are worrying about "omg omg what to do if someone decides to unilaterally deploy this, it must be stopped! there must be governance!"
21:02 < kanzure> and what sort of politician doesn't like more governance?
21:08 < kanzure> maybe maneuverable star shade timeshares..
21:19 < kanzure> .wik kzin
21:19 < yoleaux> "The Kzinti (singular Kzin) are a fictional, very warlike and bloodthirsty race of cat-like aliens in Larry Niven's Known Space series." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kzin
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21:25 < kanzure> greetings.
21:30 < mrdata> good day
21:31 < mrdata> i've lately spent some time listening to isaac arthur videos
21:31 < kanzure> links
21:32 < mrdata> sure, i recommend these https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g/videos
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21:39 < kanzure> .title
21:39 < yoleaux> Isaac Arthur - YouTube
21:40 < mrdata> list of 91 videos; includes topics on space, transhumanism, kardashev civilizations, fermi paradox, ...
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