--- Log opened Sat Jul 01 00:00:37 2017 00:12 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:24 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wjqobtgfndycnohs] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:36 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:389a:854d:55b2:4128] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:389a:854d:55b2:4128] has quit [Changing host] 00:36 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:37 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has quit [Client Quit] 00:43 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has joined ##hplusroadmap 00:45 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has quit [Client Quit] 01:17 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:33 < JayDugger> "nerdsniping," heh. 01:36 -!- greymdr [~greymdr@101.206.21.233] has joined ##hplusroadmap 01:38 < JayDugger> Indulgences on the block chain. http://tokenmint.io/#/ico/0x59153bcf752b4e1ef294b370d635ce320bfdac08 01:39 < JayDugger> .wik Indulgence 01:39 < yoleaux> "In the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church, an indulgence is "a way to reduce the amount of punishment one has to undergo for sins". It may reduce the temporal punishment after death, in the state or process of purification called Purgatory." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence 01:40 < JayDugger> Thank you for the links, docl. 02:01 -!- saurik [saurik@carrier.saurik.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:08 -!- saurik [saurik@carrier.saurik.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:13 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:29 -!- SuperJen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:29 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:34 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:41 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 02:41 -!- SuperJen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:47 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##hplusroadmap 06:28 < kanzure> http://api.spacexdata.com/launches/upcoming 06:30 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:32 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.79.110] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.79.110] has quit [Changing host] 06:33 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:35 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:48 < kanzure> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/how-use-%E2%80%9Cmeek%E2%80%9D-pluggable-transport 07:07 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:07 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:10 -!- helleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:51 -!- poppingtonic 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minimal losses for Lehman's customers (Appendix B). However, CCPs and clearing firms filed numerous suits against the Chapter 11 debtors and the SIPA trustee (Appendix C) that, had these suits not been decided in favor of Lehman, would have led to larger losses for Lehman's customers. Also, despite cent... 20:01 < kanzure> ...ral clearing, some of Lehman's house positions suffered large losses due to the extreme illiquid market conditions prevailing during the financial crisis (Appendix B)." 20:01 < kanzure> "In contrast to centrally cleared derivatives, the settlement of Lehman's OTC derivatives claims may have resulted in significant losses to Lehman ("Debtors' Disclosure Statement for First Amended Joint Chapter 11 Plan," January 25, 2011; U.S. Government Accountability Office 2011) or to Lehman's counterparties. In particular, Lehman's counterparties used the safe harbor provisions... 20:01 < kanzure> ... to terminate contracts when they stood to gain and to keep alive contracts when they were out-of-the-money. Further, they refused to make required periodic payments to Lehman on out-of-the-money contracts on the grounds of Lehman's default under the ISDA Master Agreement." 20:01 < kanzure> "In addition, CCPs and clearing agents took unilateral adversarial actions that made it difficult for the SIPA trustee to obtain access to customer property and records. Thus, at the time of the bankruptcy filing, JPMC unilaterally shut off access to information systems, thereby preventing LBI and the SIPA trustee from identifying and protecting customer accounts ("Trustee's Preliminary In... 20:01 < kanzure> ...vestigation Report and Recommendations," 2010). JPMC also did not honor customer segregation requirements. These issues were ultimately resolved through formal agreements between JPMC and the SIPA trustee, but in the meantime, the ability of the SIPA trustee to transfer customer property was impaired." 20:03 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:03 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:03 < kanzure> "In a bankruptcy, derivatives and other qualified financial contracts are awarded special legal treatment exempting them from several provisions of the Bankruptcy Code, thereby creating a safe harbor.54 First, derivatives creditors can net offsetting positions with the debtor, seize and liquidate collateral, and choose whether to close out and terminate positions right after bankruptcy without... 20:03 < kanzure> ... being subject to the automatic stay. Relatedly, creditors have broad rights to set off debts owed to the debtor against debts due from the debtor if a setoff provision has been included in the ISDA Master Agreement. Second, they are exempt from certain creditor liabilities related to pre-bankruptcy agreements such as fraudulent conveyance liability (arising from the debtor selling its own ass... 20:03 < kanzure> ...ets prior to bankruptcy for less than fair value) and preference rules (the need to return preferential payments received just before bankruptcy or to give back preferential collateral calls). The remainder of this section focuses on the first exemption relating to the procedures for termination, liquidation of collateral, netting, and setoff." 20:04 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:08 < kanzure> hmm https://scholar.google.com/scholar?num=100&safe=off&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&cites=2455099260737938451 20:11 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:35 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:36 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:40 < kanzure> https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/10985175/AdamsSafe%20Harbors.pdf?sequence=3 21:54 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:57 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:08 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:11 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:19 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:ca:d285:dde4:13ef] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:29 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:30 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:12 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:12 -!- greymdr [~greymdr@101.206.21.233] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:13 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@41.57.97.63] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:16 -!- Jen [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:17 -!- poppingtonic1 [~brian@41.57.97.63] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:18 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:20 -!- JenElizabeth [~Jen3@cpc76794-brmb10-2-0-cust542.1-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] --- Log closed Sun Jul 02 00:00:08 2017