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There was only one copy! I started a crowdfunding campaign on Sci-Hub to buy additional drives, and soon had my own copy of the database collected by LibGen, around 21 million papers. Around one million of these papers was uploaded from Sci-Hub, the other, as I was told, came f... 05:21 < kanzure> ...rom databases that were downloaded on the Internet/Darknet." 05:22 < kanzure> "In 2014, I analyzed what publishers are most requested by Sci-Hub users, and created a list of papers that were not yet available in database. The code of Sci-Hub was rewritten from the beginning, and the ability to download papers automatically was introduced. Now Sci-Hub started to collect papers on itself. And users could enjoy much-awaited function: just point Sci-Hub to the article, and ... 05:22 < kanzure> ...it will check all proxies and download the paper by itself. Before, users had to manually browse the publishers website through Sci-Hub." 05:22 < kanzure> "In the end of 2014, few additional copies of the database was created. They became a mirrors from which Sci-Hub is serving content now. Those are Sci-Hub only repositories, separate from LibGen." 05:22 < kanzure> "Even further, people behind LibGen had a strong position not to contact journalists and work semi-underground." 05:22 < kanzure> ya this is called opsec 05:28 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 05:29 < chris_99> heh 05:30 < chris_99> https://blog.degruyter.com/algorithms-suck-analog-computers-future/ - the book linked on the bottom of that looks intriguing, but expensive 06:10 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:13 -!- CRM114 [~urchin@unaffiliated/urchin] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:17 -!- TC [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:17 -!- TC is now known as Guest82009 06:21 -!- hehelleshin [~talinck@cpe-174-97-113-184.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 06:24 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:41 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/seth_stafford/status/882823397079736321 06:41 < yoleaux> Lucid summary of progress on finding "deep learning" in the brain from Blake Richards @tyrell_turing (at MILA DLSS) http://bit.ly/2sIEsiQ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEBqCEtXYAAt5By.jpg (@seth_stafford) 06:41 < kanzure> .tw https://twitter.com/eboyden3/status/883186427487498240 06:41 < yoleaux> Know someone who would benefit from $150k to have the freedom to do some adventurous science? https://www.media.mit.edu/posts/adventurous-science-fellows/ (@eboyden3) 06:41 < kanzure> https://www.media.mit.edu/posts/adventurous-science-fellows/ 06:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.40.86] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@110.141.40.86] has quit [Changing host] 06:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 06:43 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:16 < JayDugger> OPSEC errors kill. 07:17 < JayDugger> Observation drawn from history. Wouldn't know myself. 07:19 < kanzure> i'm on to you. 07:20 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:29 -!- Btclovernicko [4b198946@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.25.137.70] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:29 -!- Btclovernicko [4b198946@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.25.137.70] has quit [Client Quit] 07:44 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has joined ##hplusroadmap 07:54 -!- redlegion [~x@unaffiliated/redlegion] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:04 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d04e:21a9:8b45:c149] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:09 -!- augur [~augur@2602:304:cdac:e260:d04e:21a9:8b45:c149] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:19 -!- poppingtonic [~brian@unaffiliated/poppingtonic] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:34 -!- Malvolio [~Malvolio@unaffiliated/malvolio] has joined ##hplusroadmap 08:36 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:48 -!- jtimon [~quassel@102.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:01 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:01 < maaku> well, Reddit is censored in Indonesia 09:01 < maaku> honestly the world would probably be better off it was censored everywhere :P 09:15 < kanzure> yep. 09:17 < maaku> kanzure: could you suggest some easy projects for a "physical build" language? 09:18 < maaku> I'm not sure what the right word is, but it is related to your SKDB stuff. A declarative language to specify built artifacts, and a compiler to turn that blueprint into manufacturing command. 09:18 < maaku> I'm looking for prototypical projects to demonstrate such a language. 09:21 < kanzure> yeeeaah. bunch of skdb stuff i guess. 09:21 < kanzure> i would not recommend a declarative *language*, just a declarative specification. 09:22 < kanzure> if you want declarative *modeling* there's all sorts of weird stuff like openscad, freecad python bindings, blender python bindings, opencascade python bindings, etc. 09:23 < kanzure> i think the declarative packaging approach of nixos/nixpkgs is the right way to go, something in the same spirit as google's bazel/blaze (which does correct graph traversal algorithms over software build plans). 09:24 < maaku> I guess what I mena is should I be looking at the reprap scene or something? I don't really llow the 3d printing or diy machine shop scene 09:24 < maaku> *I mean is 09:24 < kanzure> i believe both transcriptic and opentrons have made biology protocol recipe formats-- i forget if they are both/neither languages, but at least one of them was a json format.. 09:24 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 09:25 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-211-218.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:25 < kanzure> afaik there's still no machine shop system-wide integration approach, no 'compile to cupsd outputs and control linuxcnc stuff to make your parts'. 09:26 < kanzure> there was cubespawn, which still aims to offer a standardized cube shape for mounting equipment and eventually standard interfaces for whatever equipment inside. 09:26 < maaku> Well I'm familiar with the transcirptic one ;) I'll look into opentrons. 09:26 < kanzure> there was an aws-for-manufacturing startup somewhere, they gave you raw API to flexible manufacturing cell, you could wave the robot arms or do whatever 09:26 < kanzure> and each cell had same equipment as any other cell (or at least that was the pitch) 09:27 < kanzure> maaku: another area to look into, depending on what you're doing, is biology. dna satisfies your request. there are many dna/genome design tools out there. and then many ways to compile that into a real dna molecule and inject that into a cell chasis and start manufacturing whatever. 09:28 < kanzure> biobricks are sort of lame but that's one place you could look. 09:28 < maaku> kanzure: As background, I'm looking at how to apply the software development model (version control of source, test driven development, continuous integration, automated deployment, etc.) to physical artifacts 09:28 < kanzure> reprap stuff might have something new but i haven't seen anything.. their pipeline is like 3d modeling -> slice the models based on your printer's capabilities -> convert slices to gcode -> send gcode to printer. 09:29 < kanzure> maaku: well, one area where that is easiest is electronics, whether for PCBs, pick-and-place electronics, or semiconductor manufacturing. verilog, and whatnot... 09:30 < maaku> Drexlarian nanotech and DNA/biology is the end goal obviously, but probably easier to test this stuff with desktop 3d printers or lego minstorms or whatnot 09:30 < kanzure> upverter and octopart would be one place to look. 09:30 < kanzure> advantage of electronics industry is that there's lots of standardization. making non-electronics stuff continues to be a pain in the butt. 09:30 < maaku> Interesting, these are all good leads, thank you. 09:31 < kanzure> design-build-test workflow already works in biology-- it's drexlerian nanotech that is missing. 09:31 < kanzure> 'design' 09:32 < maaku> Not really a fully machine automated workflow though, right? 09:32 < kanzure> here is an example of taking 3d polyhedral meshes and creating DNA molecules that will form that shape: 09:32 < kanzure> http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/dna-origami/DNA%20rendering%20of%20polyhedral%20meshes%20at%20the%20nanoscale%20-%202015.pdf 09:32 < maaku> I mean if I'm working on the next awesome MMORPG, I can edit a source file, commit it, and have it be sent through continuous integration, unit tests, A/B deployment, and pushed to production without human intervention 09:33 -!- tripledobleu [~Administr@176.223.112.82] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:34 < maaku> Whereas if I'm an engineer at SpaceX, wouldn't it be nice to update the Raptor engine CAD file and -- twice a month for cost reasons -- have the design built out, test burned, x-rayed, standard suite of tests run, etc. 09:34 < kanzure> emachineshop is another thing you could look at 09:35 < maaku> It's that workflow I haven't really seen anywhere and which I think might bring some pretty big productivity 09:35 < kanzure> or shapeways and whatever nick pinkston was doing 09:35 < kanzure> ah nick is now doing cnc api on demand thing https://www.plethora.com/ 09:36 < maaku> Ah Plethora sounds like they must be doing some of this under the hood 09:36 < kanzure> for a while i was looking into version control plugins for cad software, i was thinking about writing versioning for cad teams. 09:38 < kanzure> "plm" yadda yadda. 09:40 < kanzure> maaku: there was also recently this thing, which was mostly an effort of tech integration 09:40 < kanzure> .title https://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nbt.3859.html 09:40 < yoleaux> Digital-to-biological converter for on-demand production of biologics : Nature Biotechnology : Nature Research 09:42 -!- strages [uid11297@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gpjhewwbujjkvppw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:45 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:46 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:06 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 10:15 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:39 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:40 -!- Douhet [~Douhet@unaffiliated/douhet] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:09 -!- bit_lySLH2uSZHed [~deepbook@198.144.116.187] has joined ##hplusroadmap 11:11 -!- bit_lySLH2uSZHed [~deepbook@198.144.116.187] has left ##hplusroadmap [] 11:57 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:05 -!- augur [~augur@67-207-118-226.static.wiline.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:05 -!- jcluck [~cluckj@static-98-114-202-142.phlapa.ftas.verizon.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:09 -!- augur [~augur@67-207-118-226.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:09 -!- cluckj [~cluckj@static-98-114-202-142.phlapa.ftas.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:10 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 12:51 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:11 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:16 -!- atrus6 [~atrus6@72.241.82.247] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:40 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:42 -!- jcluck is now known as cluckj 13:42 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 13:58 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:59 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:10 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:13 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:17 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:18 < kanzure> are there any things that do static analysis of concurrent database transaction plans to find unintended bugs? 14:18 < kanzure> "Finding concurrency-related bugs using random isolation" https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10009-011-0197-7 14:20 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:22 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:33 < kanzure> "Symbolic modular deadlock analysis" https://www.cs.colorado.edu/~srirams/papers/jase11.pdf 14:35 < emeraldgreen> >As background, I'm looking at how to apply the software development model (version control of source, test driven development, continuous integration, automated deployment, etc.) to physical artifacts 14:35 < emeraldgreen> I have strong interest in this too 14:37 < emeraldgreen> >some easy projects for a "physical build" language? 14:37 < emeraldgreen> An arm like "Me Arm" 14:37 < emeraldgreen> Would be cool to have a standard representation for physical things 14:38 < emeraldgreen> One could do it either with voxels or with boundary representation (CASCADE), or with a graph of manufacturing operations applied to piece of raw material 14:38 < kanzure> maaku: btw there was also an english grammar parser that was used on english biology recipes/protocols. since biology lab protocols follow a strict/predictable format, the results aren't totally bad. if there ws complete documentation of manufacturing steps in plain english, and many such recipes, perhaps a similar tool could be developed, and then analyze the resulting abstract syntax trees, ... 14:38 < kanzure> ...and then make various abstractions to handle the cases. 14:38 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:38 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:39 < emeraldgreen> >are there any things that do static analysis of concurrent database transaction plans to find unintended bugs? 14:39 < emeraldgreen> why not fuzzing 14:40 < kanzure> you could probably get away with lab recipe translation from english grammar to microfluidic circuit planner... 14:40 < emeraldgreen> evrebody serious does fuzzing to pieces of their code 14:40 < emeraldgreen> kanzure is microfluidic project on hiatus? 14:40 < emeraldgreen> I thought you were doing mostly bitcoin for some time now 14:40 < kanzure> vlsi and flat manufacturing stuff is basically a hundred times easier (or more) than non-flat manufacturing execution graphs 14:41 < kanzure> emeraldgreen: nmz787 has been doing microfluidics. bought him a focused ion beam machine recently :). 14:41 < emeraldgreen> cool~ 14:49 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:50 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has joined ##hplusroadmap 14:55 < emeraldgreen> I think a powerful demo would be an autonomous assemble of one robot arm with another, from pile of parts 14:55 < emeraldgreen> assembly 15:06 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:13 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbneqgnenvkfcqir] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:25 < kanzure> i wanted semiconductor manufacturing process compatible construction of steppers, servos and motors because you need those components to do self-replication semiconductor fabbing. :| 15:41 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:42 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has joined ##hplusroadmap 15:48 -!- atrus6 [~atrus6@72.241.82.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:06 < cluckj> friggin physicists 16:06 < cluckj> https://www.facebook.com/thedavidbrin/posts/780384336406 16:08 -!- atrus6 [~atrus6@72.241.82.247] has joined ##hplusroadmap 16:15 -!- chris_99 [~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:12 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:12 < abetusk> 89B neurons for an average brain at 10k connections per neuron gives l(10k*89B) \approx 50 bits of entropy. Petabyte = 1024^5 bytes = 8*1024^8 bits which is 53 bits of entropy. Give or take, assuming storage capacity of the human brain is proportional to nodes (neurons) and edges (connections), the storage capacity of the human brain is on the order of petabytes 17:14 < abetusk> assuming there isn't something crazy like memory storage in dna... 17:15 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:15 < kanzure> abetusk: in russell hanson's presentations from brainbackups.com, he gives many calculations like that. 17:15 < abetusk> thanks for the link 17:16 < kanzure> ah here http://www.brainbackups.com/in-the-lab/ 17:16 < kanzure> "Our calculations (below) indicate that the entire connectome can be stored on about 500TB of hard drive space with compression." 17:16 < kanzure> 100,000,000,000 neurons * 10,000 synapses = 1,000,000,000,000,000 17:16 < kanzure> 1 terabyte = 1,099,511,627,776 bytes 17:16 < kanzure> 1,000,000,000,000,000/1,099,511,627,776 = 909.49 terabytes 17:16 < kanzure> 1 terabyte hard drive = ~$90 -> storage for all human neurons and synapses ~$90 * 909.49 = ~$81,854 17:17 < abetusk> yep, a simple calculation but I don't think I've ever seen it explicitly spelled out until now 17:17 < kanzure> unfortunately there's more to it than simply the connection matrix (although getting the connection matrix would be amazing, sign me up) 17:17 < kanzure> it would be nice to have at least 5 different weight measurements from each synapse 17:18 < abetusk> and these estimations make assumptions about the number of neurons, the average connection etc. They're only good for getting ballpark figures 17:19 < abetusk> maybe they're off by an order of 10...but that still only 10 Petabytes instead of 1, say 17:19 < kanzure> you could make an endless list of possible "weights" to be measuring, i'm sure some would turn out to be more important than others-- could be anything from neurotransmitter concentration, mRNA expression levels per transcript, receptor density per receptor type at each synapse, vacuoles, methylation (or lack thereof) around certain genes or promoters or introns in the same neuron, etc. 17:20 < kanzure> large chunks of the connectome are probably unnecessary, especially for rregions/areas that do pretty commonly shared ensemble codes like auditory cortex and audio processing.. you don't really care about those details. 17:28 -!- atrus6 [~atrus6@72.241.82.247] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:31 -!- preview [~preview@2407:7000:842d:4000::2] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:42 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:45 -!- CheckDavid [uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tbneqgnenvkfcqir] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 17:48 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has joined ##hplusroadmap 17:49 -!- Guest82009 is now known as Helleshin 17:55 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:56 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:02 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:04 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:07 -!- augur [~augur@noisebridge130.static.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:24 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-211-218.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined ##hplusroadmap 18:42 -!- jaboja [~jaboja@jaboja.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:42 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:59 -!- emeraldgreen [~user@188.227.115.178] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:04 -!- Iriez [wario@distribution.xbins.org] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:5954:b8f:99dd:c80b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:5954:b8f:99dd:c80b] has quit [Changing host] 19:44 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 19:53 -!- Gurkenglas [~Gurkengla@dslb-178-000-211-218.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:09 < maaku> .tell emeraldgreen thanks, I'll keep you in the loop 20:09 < yoleaux> maaku: I'll pass your message to emeraldgreen. 20:20 < juri_> only 81K for the disk space for a backup. I'll start saving now. 20:29 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:38 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:39 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 20:52 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:52 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:30 < kanzure> hrmph. 21:34 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:36 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:53 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:55 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:5954:b8f:99dd:c80b] has joined ##hplusroadmap 21:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@2001:8003:1074:bc00:5954:b8f:99dd:c80b] has quit [Changing host] 21:59 -!- ebowden [~ebowden@unaffiliated/ebowden] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:12 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:15 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:30 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:30 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:40 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:41 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:50 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:52 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 22:57 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:00 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:21 -!- yashgaroth [~yashgarot@2606:6000:cd4d:3300:f5e0:f867:a11d:8d52] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:26 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:27 -!- cevi_ [~zeb@cpe-104-35-84-141.socal.res.rr.com] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:28 < JayDugger> Hm. 23:41 -!- darsie [~darsie@84-113-55-42.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined ##hplusroadmap 23:54 -!- Darius [~quassel@66-215-89-229.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Sat Jul 08 00:00:43 2017